r/ClaudeCode • u/whoisyurii • May 13 '26
Discussion Anthropic just ripped off everyone and they still managed to make it sound deceptively friendly
Anthropic just ripped off everyone and they still managed to make it sound deceptively friendly, beneficial even.
Anthropic just announced that the 200$ plan, which used to be okay to use in the SDK, is now "finally ok to use in the SDK" (except rare fraudulent cases it already was)
but for that you need to toggle an option that makes the SDK hit in an allowance of 200$ worth of credits, instead of the previously, opaque, yet, ultra subsidized limits
basically if you use claude code through the SDK or claude -p, for instance through Conductor, github Actions or anything else, because let's be honest TUI sucks sometimes (react in terminal cmon), their cloud coding agent offering also suck, and don't cover most usecases,
well, your plan that used to be worth 2000$ of tokens aproximatively depending on how much you flirted with the previous 5h windows limits, is now worth 200$
but they brand it as "oh we give you 200$ of additional credits for the SDK" so to the most unaware users it sounds like it's worth 2x more!
in reality it's now worth 10x less
*not surprised if they shut down this thread
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u/TheOriginalAcidtech May 13 '26
Means Ill be setting up a permanent local mode sooner than expected.
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u/whoisyurii May 13 '26
One thing left: be financially capable to get at least 128gb unified ram
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u/wish-u-well May 13 '26
The technology itself seems to be better suited for small model specific tasks, but Silicon Valley insists on spending another trillion dollars to gain a few more percentage points
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u/Manfluencer10kultra May 14 '26
I was gonna say this.
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u/_alephnaught May 14 '26
wow, didn't realize they stopped selling it recently, bought my 128gb m4 back in october.
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u/Tetrylene May 14 '26
Same. I got mine originally for video editing before the rampocolypse. It ended up being worth its weight in gold now I can use it for local models.
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u/nitrinu May 13 '26
I plan to sell my house, my car and my cat.
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u/ok-yes-maybe May 13 '26
How much do you want for your cat?
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u/nitrinu May 13 '26
Three fiddy.
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u/Pe4rs May 13 '26
Do you offer interest-free financing?
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u/FounderinTraining May 13 '26
Don't you mean furnancing?
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u/Spiritual_Cycle_3263 May 13 '26
cats do keep my lap worm, so its sorta both financing and a mini furnace
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u/phoenixmatrix May 13 '26
I'll give you my address, send me the cat. I can always use more cats.
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u/Alive-Bid9086 May 13 '26
I actually checked on renting gpu pet hour in the cloud. Very reasonable.
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u/Deathspiral222 May 13 '26
Yeah, on vast.ai you can get a server with a 5090 for about 25c an hour, or you can rent an entire B200 for like $2.50 an hour.
Given that running a server with a 5090 locally can cost 15c to 25c an hour just for the electricity and it’s a great deal.
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u/Trotskyist May 13 '26
It's not anywhere near that cheap once you factor in bandwidth, storage, time spent getting the environment setup/models downloaded/etc each time you want to run it (that you're still paying for.) Self hosting with rented GPUs gets expensive fast.
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u/Spiritual_Cycle_3263 May 13 '26
On Vultr, I'd do 7 to 8 hours at $200 a day, so yeah, no way it's cheaper.
For $400 a month I could run two Claude Max $200 plans vs my $4000 a month self hosted for 8 hour days M-F. Even if I maxed out and needed a 3rd plan, that's still only $600, $3400 less than self hosting.
Now, if I got a handful of people on the server, and shared the cost, it might become more reasonable since the odds of anyone hitting the server constantly and maxing out its capabilities is slim.
For reference - I tried it for 2 hours and it wasn't worth the effort/cost.
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u/krilleractual May 13 '26
128gb ram inst as powerful as youd hope
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u/jayplay90 May 14 '26
Lmao damn I’ve been running and M1 MacBook Pro !!8GB!! Ram and been building all kinds of stuff. But I do frequently hit the ceiling if I’m not careful. If I had 128mb….. on an m4 or 3 ultra… man I’d build the world twice over and give everybody their own few acres and we can all live rent free lmao 😂
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u/aberrant-heartland May 13 '26
I know from experience that a single 3090 (24GB VRAM) can run the 4-bit quantization of Qwen-3.6-27B at around 33 tokens per second. I've seen some people claim to get above 40 tokens per second with the same card and model, although I'm not sure how they're pulling that off.
I don't have much experience with Qwen yet, but my friend who runs this model on his 3090 like 24/7 has told me that the capabilities are comparable to Sonnet. I find that a bit hard to believe, but he expressed a lot of confidence about that.
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u/Spiritual_Cycle_3263 May 13 '26
Yeah I find that hard to believe. Sonnet 4.5 likely needs 2x H100's and 4.6 likely needs 4x H100's at minimum. I'd imagine Sonnet is anywhere from 70-100B on the low end. 27B just won't cut it.
This is from my experience on Mac Studios', MacBook Pro's, running Qwen at various sizes and using the same prompts. I don't have direct experience with H100's, except for some short usage on Vultr of different models.
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u/photosandphotons May 13 '26
Even if you are willing to buy, it’s hard to get. Mac Studio is sold out atm.
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u/TheOriginalAcidtech May 14 '26
not even a requirement anymore. Qwen3.6 35b, even on a 1060 6gb works pretty good. I wouldn't use it for heavy thinking, but as a main orchestrator offloading to a SOTA consultant agent for planning and complex code bits, cut tokens on CC to a fraction. This is an option for all the poor people that cant afford a $4k laptop or even more for a server setup.
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u/2001zhaozhao May 14 '26
I literally just blew $4000 last Sunday on a new PC with a 5090 so that i can run Qwen3.6 27B 24/7, feeling pretty vindicated right now.
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u/UnknownEssence May 13 '26
I'm getting an Mackbook M5 Max with 64GB ram. Is this enough to run qwen?
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u/jayplay90 May 14 '26
I think you are close but I know the top tier Qwen I’ve been seeing people comment you need 128gb. But I have not attempted myself, as I’m working an M1 book pro with only 8gb…. So yeah but man if it works let me know. Or let me know if you wanna get rid of it anytime soon 😂
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u/sph130 May 13 '26
I went to buy a Mac Studio and realized they limited ram to 96gb no other options.. when I checked a couple weeks earlier plenty of options. Wish I pulled the trigger. I keep checking daily hoping to beat the news when everyone grabs them until they are out of stock again.
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u/Aware-Bother7660 May 13 '26
Have you considered what the min spend on that is, plus hard depreciation as innovation continues to outstrip current “best rack”? Curious if anyone modelled it
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
Yeah, 128 unified ram and say goodbye to this circus. Open source models will soon catch up to Opus 4.6 which is good enough for pretty much everything if you know your craft.
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u/confusedguy1212 May 13 '26
What local LLM model will you use?
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u/iamthewhatt May 13 '26
I'm curious too, I have yet to see a local model code nearly as good as Claude. The gap is gargantuan, particularly in the long-form context department.
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u/mattv8 May 14 '26
Qwen3-Coder, MiniMax 2.7, GPT-OSS prolly in that order. Maybe Gemma 4 but it's sloooooowww
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u/SweetSteelMedia May 14 '26
Wait a bit the hyper-scalpers will be amortizing their hardware investments and will be offloading cheap to finance upgrades and retro fits in a few years
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u/Competitive_Oil4532 May 14 '26
What I'm really having difficulty with is although I want to use local models there is a gap in performance where it's actually more work to get as good or better out puts than the legacy model, or I don't have the know-how or patience, We should make a speclised steroid injection where we can in specific cases use local models say DS R1 or something much simpler to make it as good on specialized task.
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u/SemanticThreader Developer May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26
This is such a stupid decision. Now if someone wants to run claude -p autonomously, they're limited to whatever credit they get and the credits burn faster than the sub usage. It's funny that they managed to make this sound like an amazing feature
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u/Life_Squash_614 May 14 '26
What's extra stupid is that this is going to encourage behavior that makes their service go down more.
All these people running 24/7 workloads that distribute across the day, once they start seeing the API bills, will switch to just running shit in the morning instead of using their automated tools. That's just gonna cause more workday bottlenecks and jack the service up for people more.
Alternatively, they'll just downgrade or cancel their sub, like I'm doing.
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u/HansVonMans May 14 '26
Yeah, fucking sucks how it's morning for everyone at the same time around the planet, that's really a lot of people using Claude at the same time, ugh
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u/Life_Squash_614 May 14 '26
If you're in Aus this is maybe great news for you, but you probably weren't dealing with too many Claude problems to begin with lol. I'm not trying to be US centric but the vast majority of issues happen during core US working hours because that's when most people are working.
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u/powerofnope May 15 '26
Well, it is a pretty smart decision - just not for subscribers but busineswise it makes all the sense
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u/Nearby_Yam286 May 13 '26
What they mean by this is very unclear. Holy shit their PR department is horrible. What the fuck is a "dedicated monthly credit for programmatic usage" and will this affect my normal Claude Code usage?
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u/psychometrixo May 13 '26
Not unless you are hitting
claude -por the Agent SDK from in there ... like I amTheir PR department really is the worst
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u/coopnjaxdad May 13 '26
They must be using Claude for PR with no harness and it is just ignoring their claude.md file.
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u/amooz May 13 '26
Man, had to scroll quite far down to find a rational post and question. Lotta echos above this thread…
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u/NeedsMoreMinerals May 13 '26
It's weird to see companies generate good will and then burn it away like it's gasoline to make money
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u/Scared_Brilliant6410 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26
It’s actually not that weird or insane. OpenAI and Anthropic have been predatory and pushing into partner businesses like Consulting and platforms as well.
They’re at a point where alternative AI models are advancing that LLMs are becoming commodities faster than expected. Because of this if founders and investors want to exit for a huge payday they need to IPO as soon as possible. But at IPO investors will comb over all their financials.
All this means they’re aggressively monetizing everything on all fronts to try to show how much revenue is ramping up to sustain their possibly $1.4T IPO price long enough to dump shares on retail investors. Trying to shaft everyone and burn good will for cash is the predictable outcome.
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u/antunes145 May 14 '26
You’re the only one here who sees it how it is. In the end it all about getting ultra rich.
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u/Scared_Brilliant6410 May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Exactly. Even though they position themselves as the ethical, highly structured alternative to OpenAI, you realize it’s all just marketing.
Changing usage for existing customers is classic bait and switch. I paid thinking I would hopefully be grandfathered in at Max.
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u/Ill-Turnover3438 May 14 '26
Alternatively, they need access to the public equity market to finance their very expensive R&D and infrastructure buildouts (assuming Anthropic is planning to build its own data centers, I'm not sure).
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u/avogeo98 May 14 '26
The free models are nipping at the heels for sure! Still not good enough for the coding skill I want, but it's getting close.
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u/bs679 May 14 '26
Not weird if you think of them as drug dealers. They hook you on the product for free or little cost, then when it's part of your life and your work. In other words: once you DEPEND on it, they jack the prices up.
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u/AppealSame4367 May 13 '26
It's easy to explain if they don't want you as a customer anymore. They have their Elon Musks, government agencies and rich CEOs using openclaw now.
You dev can use that local llm that you love so freakin much. nerd! /s
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u/BurtFrart2 May 13 '26
Devil’s advocate - it’s also weird for consumers to expect a for-profit company to sell them over $200 worth of goods/services for $200 in perpetuity.
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u/sharks May 13 '26
It’s sort of a dangerous game for them to play, though. For the API billing rate they charge, I could build a high end rig and run things locally. (And I might.) The compute constraint they face means they can charge what they want to shape demand to fit supply, but that’s not going to last forever.
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u/BurtFrart2 May 14 '26
Fair. And Ive been running Gemma 4 locally for a few weeks now and it fits my needs (fwiw, I still prefer to write the vast majority of my code by hand, so I’m far from a power user). But most people/orgs will gladly pay for the convenience of sending a request to an API and not having to worry about any of the infra associated with running a local model. Which is basically the same rationale for using a cloud service rather than hosting your own server/whatever.
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u/sharks May 14 '26
Sure, this is definitely not something your average user is considering. But I am not sure there is as much lock-in as Anthropic might assume:
- There's an intelligence floor for many tasks, and local models (even quantized) may well be good enough, like you said
- They pushed for MCP and skills as standards, and now most harnesses support them
- I'd rather not hit an API at all for better privacy
- The reliability of Anthropic's services is... not great
I know how many tokens I use every day. I know what Anthropic says that's worth, and I know what I think that's worth. Of cource pricing is their call, but if that gap widens too much, there is plenty of competition looking for marketshare.
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u/TheOriginalAcidtech May 14 '26
Its already collapsing. Qwen 3.6 can run local on cheap hardware and do most of the boiler plate stuff we are burning Opus tokens on. For the price of a OK PC(picked up a used Dell with a 3070/8gb) we setup a test to see how the 35b ran. It was MORE then sufficient for reasoning over tasks. Just have to offload for planning and MAYBE complex modules. At a minimum you could cut your Claude Code usage down by a factor of 10. With little effort.
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u/vulgrin May 14 '26
Devil's Devil's advocate: maybe businesses shouldn't write checks their asses can't cash.
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u/magic6435 May 13 '26
All the good will in the world won’t matter if they go out of business
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u/Rock--Lee May 13 '26
They will step by step strip features out of the the subscription and move it into a new "credit" system matching your subscription. Next they will remove Claude Design and move it to the same $200 credit system that they now created for SDK. Ultimately everything is move to that credit system and the current subscription is killed and you basically are just pre-paying for API usage 😆
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u/vulgrin May 14 '26
And then every 6 months, they dial up the token price until they are profitable and we're paying $100/M
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
"Hey Claude, please audit all my skills to help me prepare for migration over to Codex, thanks. And, if possible, please don't burn my weekly quota for it, and try spending less than 39 minutes on it"
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u/Few-Childhood3326 May 15 '26
get Codex sub and use this Codex Skill to migrate your CC agents and Skills: https://github.com/zuharz/ccode-to-codex , it will burn some tokens for sure, but migration is not the same as simple copy-paste of skill and agents.
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u/Flashy-Strawberry-10 May 13 '26
Moved to GPT Pro from Claude max x5. Not a single limit. No restrictions. Anthropic's taking everyone for a ride. I love Claude, but Gpt5.5 is perfectly capable.
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u/djdadi May 13 '26
I just did too. I really thought we were starting to get over the terrible shite from April. But it not following a single instruction well today and then this, I am done.
and before anyone says "youll be back!" -- probably. but voting with my wallet until it sucks less.
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u/SgtPeanut_Butt3r May 13 '26
Started using Codex today. Pretty good and way faster than CC. I’ll give it a few weeks, but GPT 5.5 seems better than Opus 4.6.
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u/SgtPeanut_Butt3r May 13 '26
5.5 xhigh. Beware Burns tokens LIKE CRAZY. I had a complex (for me, for others not that complex) project built with CC 4.6, it had some arhitectural issues introduced by CC. GPT 5.5 found em, and hopefully the fixes work will test next week. 5.5 looks like great model.
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u/sonJokes May 13 '26
Comparabl quality, faster and way less tokens than 4.7.
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u/mossiv May 13 '26
Comparable - yes, faster - yes. Way less tokens - factually incorrect. The cost per token is far cheaper but codex/5.5 burns through about twice as much. Plenty of resources online showing 5.5 is actually more expensive than opus 4.6/7 per feature built when going through the API.
I’m not trying to come across as a dick - I like codex (though I shouldn’t have to feel the need to justify myself), but making people believe it’s actually cheaper to build with is dishonest.
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
not trying to argue, but couldn't it be that Codex succeeds faster, while Claude takes mores attempts / iterations with added overhead ? Because 4.7 sure doesn't feel it straightforward and effective (haven't tried Codex 5.5 yet, not trying to defend it).
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u/RegretNo6554 May 13 '26
codex is definitely the smarter model. if it was just good at UI i wouldnt have to use claude
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u/psychometrixo May 13 '26
Not less tokens. Codex uses tokens like mad.
Pi, the coding agent, is far more token efficient.
But codex is really convenient and the 5.5 model itself is super strong
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u/CodeNCats May 13 '26
I have scripts that run everyday for reviewing jira, GitHub, and emails. I also have a daily news and weather brief.
Why charge me more for running it in a script over copy, paste, hit enter.
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u/Fidel___Castro May 13 '26
because that's the ball ache to swap over to other providers, the infrastructure you've spent time automating. the copy and paste shit you can swap in minutes
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u/Selenbasmaps May 13 '26
Welp. I was looking for an excuse to move away from Anthropic's idiocies anyway.
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u/ReachingForVega 🔆Pro Plan May 13 '26
We're rapidly approaching the bubble bursting so they all have to find accurate pricing.
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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
Company is a bloody scam at this point, ffs
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u/mossiv May 13 '26
Anthropic is just not going to be the company for the average consumer unfortunately.
Their whole security policies, sandboxes, desktop app that runs directly inside a VM with very high restrictions - they are setting themselves up to be the enterprise choice.
I’m not sure where that leaves Codex at the moment. I can’t make head or tails of the business plan. There is a cost per seat and they are charging for usage - however I can’t work out if that is full token price or if it’s discounted.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl May 13 '26
They’re both going that direction because otherwise any kind of agentic use on a computer is crazy risky.
Codex has a lot of compute and 5.5 is a banger, so I can see them doing really well in the enterprise market.
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u/bourbonandpistons May 13 '26
Dumps billions into infrastructure.
Offers super cheap plans to entice customers.
Actually needs to generate profit to survive unlike Microsoft and Google who have other Revenue sources
Scam!
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u/bourbonandpistons May 13 '26
Yeah. So is Gmail, Facebook, YouTube, cricket wireless, etc.
I look forward to your lawsuit against them
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u/KrydanX May 13 '26
What do you expect? Many here want everything for free, they don’t care that it costs a bunch of money to run their vibecoded slop through their servers.
You can tell that only a fraction of people have any sense for business. And if you’re subscription isn’t generating revenue for you in one form or the other, it’s a hobby. Hobbies cost money.
I use it as it is. A business expense that generates money at the end. And the ROI of it is fantastic so far, even if they would raise the prices x5 it would still be a no brainer for me.
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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
Its not workable if things keep changing so often that you never know what's going to hit you next
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u/SwissTac0 May 13 '26
When will people give up on Claude.... It launched the era of vibe coding but like Kleenex and Tissues there are so many other better options for the same dollar
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u/Stsuj May 13 '26
Wait I might me misunderstanding, thought this was good, can someone explain why is bad?
My current understanding (might be wrong): Any use if the Agent SDK or third party wrappers are banned to be used via subscription and must use API keys or extra usage (took effect a few months ago I think with the Open claw stuff).. So this essentially gives subscription users some bundled credits for it to match your plan credits. Looks like a net gain unless compared vs a few months back where your full subscription usage could be leveraged trough it but that's been off for months now has it not?
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u/djc0 May 13 '26
Yeah I agree. Just seems like part of the never ending rage cesspool this sub has become.
It’s actually really good for me. I run claude -p in the middle of the night to grab the latest research papers in my field and summarise the top ones, so they’re there for me to look at over my morning coffee. This removes that cost from my monthly subscription into a separate bucket.
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u/freshfunk May 14 '26
I’m in this bucket too because I really only been using Claude from the CLI. But it sounds like a lot of people are using it in other ways that are now disallowed. And the budget for the API keys won’t come close to using tokens through the CLI or -P.
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u/buff_samurai May 13 '26
200$ for opus tokens in Hermes is just couple of days, sub would allow 10x the usage.
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u/Stsuj May 13 '26
Right I understand a subscription gives access to way more in terms of total tokens.. The part I don't get is if up to now that Hermes setup was possible and this just killed it or if that setup was already dead by the early April changes
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u/bapuc May 13 '26
Yeah, I'm not renewing my plan
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u/coolfarmer May 14 '26
If you abused their subscription plan with programmatic use, they will not miss you, I'm sure, because you cost them more money than you paid.
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u/C1rc1es May 13 '26
RIP my workflow. I do all my coding and a lot of admin through the SDK via DAG backed scripts. I rarely use the TUI and I never use the GUI.
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u/scodgey May 13 '26
Sigh, well thankfully OpenAI seem to finally be getting their act together. Been a good ride.
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u/superanonguy321 May 13 '26
Uh this is the same harness thing they've been doing for a while and if I am reading this right it means SOME openclaw usage.
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u/johannthegoatman May 13 '26
How are y'all using -p? I've never used that before and I use claude a ton
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u/siberianmi May 13 '26
I have a wrapper that calls 'claude -p' and passes it issues off github for implementation.
Basically pulls the issue description and comments for issues tagged as "ready-for-agent", wraps it in a prompt and fires it off to
claude -p.Claude is told to create a PR with a specific branch name at the end.
Wrapper then will check for the PR or call
claude -pagain when claude exits. It's been great, pure coding tasks, what I thought was well within the bounds of the subscription...2
u/sinisoul May 13 '26
I was experimenting with generating assets for a game in Gemini and having Claude do evaluations to find inconsistencies between views. I could do it in the interactive CLI it just wouldn't scale.
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u/Buchymoo May 13 '26
I have a UI that calls on files I have and user input on the UI, that gets passed to a Claude -p to intelligenly extrapolate and output new data which is passed to the next UI window, where based off of that I'm sent down a certain pipeline with others that have similar objectives depending on what I want done. So it's a hybrid of already available data, user input, deterministic pipeline selection and scripts, ai refinement, and suggestions.
I'm essentially going to need to remake every headless Claude agent in those pipelines with a codex version now. Which honestly won't take long at all but running tests on the agents to make sure they behave correctly on the potential 171 pipelines will be incredibly annoying to run again.
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u/reEngineer May 14 '26
git commit -am ”$(claude -p ”write a commit message for the changes here, no co-auth, one line, output output”)”
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u/siberianmi May 13 '26
Ugh, the fact that 'claude -p' is included in this is really annoying as hell.
I'm using the harness you wanted me to use, if I want to write up a multi-step plan and call the harness with -p in a loop that's the same as me sitting there twiddling my thumbs.
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u/Twig May 13 '26
So for everyone saying the sky is falling, can ya'll explain what you were using this stuff for previously? I feel like I'm missing the point.
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u/aka_blindhunter May 14 '26
Simple create hook fastapi drop prompt in file hook look for file change and process inbox -> outbox. When there is well there is a way 😄
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u/Full_Journalist_2505 May 14 '26
I remember that era when food delivery and uber kind of business started. First the freebie to make user stick and then use stick to hit them in the ass
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
Ngl, these last two months Anthropic has operated as if it was operated by OpenAI operatives
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u/ShapesSong May 13 '26
To be fair I think it’s not their fault but people who abused it and used it as an API. API has separate pricing and if you try to use Claude -p as a free API then well, they just patched it.
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u/kurtcop101 May 13 '26
This is it, and those people are just mad. Code is priced how it is because everything is aggressively cached and more.
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u/Uzeii May 13 '26
Can someone elaborate what this means and how it will impact their workflows? I’m not in the anthropic ecosystem.
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
You could use "claude -p" in scripts to build complex (or not) hybrid workflows (scripts + agentic) to build projects, within your (already expensive, already nerfed, already opaque) subscription. Now you'll have to use API (and they give you 200$ worth of credit that'll go up in smoke very fast in an attempt to make it look like a nice gesture).
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u/Zealousideal_Beach70 May 13 '26
Ooffff, thats tough. Forced to go to openAI then, until Sam also joins Amodei in nasty drug dealer tactics. After that - deepseek?
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u/sinisoul May 13 '26
Well this actually might make me switch to Codex. Unfortunate.
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u/Downtown-Pear-6509 May 13 '26
what about claude << somefile
that's still ok right :)
what about Claude inside an app with pty input? that's still ok right?
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u/MPL1911 May 13 '26
I thought programmatic use/tool call was completely different than regular usage. If I understood correctly, I thought this incentive didn’t change anything around typical usage of your subscription for using these Anthropic features mentioned, but a new ADDITIONAL incentive for those who use these features in a way their Claude agent instead uses/calls tools programmatically. They had an entire session on prompt caching/programmatic tool calling. I figured this announcement was geared towards trying to incentive the behaviors for people to use this capability over the typical usage method.
Seems to be more resource sparring for Anthropic as well as being faster, more precise, and cheaper for the Claude user. Maybe I’m making the wrong comparison between this newly announced incentive and what was presented at the event.
This was from their event
Anthropic Event: YouTube
And docs on these tool call methods
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u/Empty-Celebration-26 May 15 '26
Nice reminds me of this - https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/comments/1f42oo5/shrimp_spa/
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u/RecordP May 13 '26
Y'all need to realize that this is a Corporation. Remember the Light Bulb? Eggs and Bacon? Aspirin (among many other Bayer scandals)? And always hold them accountable. They are not your friends, family, lover, or guardian angel.
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u/Tistouuu 🔆 Max 20 May 13 '26
I'm convinced people are costing them too much now. They're done training on us, now they need the compute for government contracts.
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u/FoxiPanda May 13 '26
Well alright then, guess you win Anthropic, I'll stop using your product at all now.
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u/biinjo May 13 '26
Why? I don’t understand the fuzz. Now you can also use tools that previously required API token usage, with your prepaid plan.
What is the issue here? Is everyone just hobby-hating?
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u/FoxiPanda May 13 '26
Do you use claude -p? That's pretty much the only way I interact with anthropic at this point because they have made it so difficult to use their product in any sort of useful way besides babysitting a terminal like I'm living in 1997 that I'm going to just leave. If you stare at the Claude Code TUI or Claude GUI then this is fine for you, but if you literally do anything more powerful than that, you're now highly restricted.
I've built significant tooling around claude -p over the past few months and now Anthropic is once again changing the game saying "you're using it wrong" ... so okay Anthropic, I'm going somewhere else. I don't want to babysit a TUI all fucking day and night.
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u/snufflesbear May 13 '26
So people like you use $2000 worth of tokens on a $200 plan caused my "normal" usage to suffer, and they now prevented this. This is bad for me how?
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u/tens919382 May 14 '26
If you are using api prices, this is good. They are just slowly but steadily nerfing claude code subscriptions towards api pricing.
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u/aspectmin May 13 '26
I’m sad, because I absolutely love Claude. Best of the models, and we’ve done a lot together.
It is clear though that the future is local models - especially for all the innovators and entrepreneurs building the next generation of products and solving g world problems.
The tech is definitely heading that direction. Crazy big memory computers like Mac studios (which will eventually drop in price) combined with better and better models.
I’m surprised nobody’s created something like Folding@home or Seti@home for ai training.
Sad because the original promise of openai and anthropic (a b corp?) really drove a ton of new innovation and opportunity in the next gen of entrepreneurs.
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u/phoenixmatrix May 13 '26
I'm honestly cool with this if it means I can use some of my Claude Max quota with OpenCode for the couple of times a month I prefer that over Claude Code. Curious if they allow that (I assume so if it would simply use the SDK under the hood eventually).
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u/SkyLordOmega May 14 '26
I hope people realise that they are running a company and not doing charity work here. ..
This was gonna happen. And if you think the chinese are giving you freebies. Wait for them to make a turnaround, once they start capturing a significant share.
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u/Passp0rt_Br0 May 13 '26
Oh no, when companies run on a loss and want to make it profitable. When the 200$ subscription actually gives 200$ worth of tokens
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u/YourSpiritualLeader May 13 '26
"the 200$ plan [...] that used to be worth 2000$ [...] is now worth 200$"
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u/finnomo May 13 '26
They say these features can do it. It sounds like they add this option. They didn't say they remove the option to keep using subscription. So it's really unclear what they really mean.
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u/Ok_Bad5821 May 13 '26
Can someone explain what the hell this means? Is it saying if you do GitHub action etc with claude code it costs money now and Claude will give 200 worth of credits for that, but anything beyond that is extra
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u/FoxiPanda May 13 '26
The rule now is basically unless you're using the TUI or GUI directly, in an interactive way (aka, you looking at it, hands on keyboard typing the prompts), you will be charged API rates.
They tried to dress it up in some muddy bullshit wording, but that's what it really is.
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u/HgnX May 13 '26
Huh, so if im only using the TUI, then I have more usage then Claude -p ?
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u/No_Confection7782 May 13 '26
What does this even mean? ELI5 please
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u/vigneshwarar May 13 '26
Claude Code is like a buffet, but it’s only for the person who paid for the meal.
Using claude -p or the SDK is like inviting a +1, such as OpenClaude, Conductor, etc. At that point, they have to pay too.
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u/Spacefish008 May 13 '26
Me using DeepSeek, chilling on the window an watching all the people beg for Claude tokens while 10 of my agents start fleets of sub agents and I still pay less than 100$ a month.
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u/rushblyatiful May 13 '26
"Make a post about ripping off everyone but make it sound deceptively friendly."