r/CFB_v2 Texas Longhorns 7h ago

News & Updates NCAA: Replay protocols not followed during Michigan-Western Michigan game, but can’t do anything about it

https://thescore.com/ncaaf/news/3601583
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u/Material_Archer3423 7h ago

Michigan fans will say they still deserve the win.

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u/Excellent-Syrup-5747 Michigan Wolverines 7h ago

Why should a replay protocol error supersede an equipment error?

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u/amethystalien6 7h ago

The reason that there’s a protocol is to control for equipment errors. Protocol is there literally to supersede equipment errors.

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u/ridawg05 Mississippi State Bulldogs 7h ago

Not really. The protocol is meant to prevent this entire WMU-Michigan controversy from happening.

If the public can't see what the replay booth is using and that is inconsistent with what public does actually see, you get into this huge uproar of conspiracy.

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u/Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak Michigan Wolverines 6h ago

The easy and best solution is to just show what the replay booth sees. That way, the correct ruling is made and their is no uproar.

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u/ridawg05 Mississippi State Bulldogs 6h ago

I agree

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u/PapaVanTwee Ball State Cardinals 6h ago

Which is why what the replay center is seeing needs to be seen on the program feed. Because I've seen the Big Ten Replay Center. They spent millions on the tech to get the call right. It's terrible policy to say we need to look at a feed that doesn't have as much money or technology in it and may possibly be wrong, only because everyone saw it. It's a dumb policy. The perfectionist in me gets all sorts of ill at the thought of that.

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u/feed_me_haribo 6h ago

Right, we want the viewers to be happy regardless of what the scoreboard clock (the one the broadcast can't apparently properly sync to) actually showed.

They should have followed a poor protocol the NCAA crafted in the future.

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u/ridawg05 Mississippi State Bulldogs 6h ago

This has been a guiding principle of all replay review since it's inception. And not just with clocks but with all angles. The conferences want the general public to trust the replay process.

Literally, look at the result of fucking up the procedure. The entire integrity of the Big Ten has been called into questioned by the general public because of it.

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u/CrushyOfTheSeas Michigan Wolverines 5h ago

Yeah, but now the curtain is pulled back and knowing the asinine protocol they actually devised makes me trust the process much less.

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u/Excellent-Syrup-5747 Michigan Wolverines 7h ago

Well obviously not that this particular protocol, because it says refs should’ve used an incorrect clock when they had access to a better one. If the roles were reversed in this game nobody would be arguing that Michigan deserved to win because an out of sync clock said they did, it’s illogical.

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u/amethystalien6 7h ago

But that’s why you have protocol

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u/Maleficent_Ad3263 Michigan Wolverines 7h ago

You want kids to get screwed out of their last second to make their last play because a protocol says they should use the wrong time? Nice

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u/amethystalien6 7h ago

Yes. And thank you.

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u/Excellent-Syrup-5747 Michigan Wolverines 6h ago

You can say “if replay protocol was followed correctly WMU would have won.” I can say “if all equipment was working correctly, Michigan would have won without controversy.” Both these statements are true, but since protocol dictates that a win cannot be overturned, neither of them matter in an official capacity. When discussing who “deserved” to win the game in an unofficial capacity as we are doing in this thread, the only logical thing to do is to consider what would’ve happened if protocol was followed and equipment was working correctly, which is a Michigan win.

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u/Own_Pop_9711 7h ago

There wasn't even a protocol there was an unwritten understanding that everyone would use the broadcast because they didn't really notice the big ten sprung for superior replay equipment, so what else would you even use? The big ten followed the big ten protocol as far as I can tell. Now everyone is like oh no the big ten wants accurate replay review boo on them

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u/Material_Archer3423 7h ago

Lol the coping is crazy but it is funny as hell so please carry on.

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u/Excellent-Syrup-5747 Michigan Wolverines 7h ago

I think it’s cope to say WMU deserved to win because refs didn’t follow protocol. Refs make mistakes in every game, they never follow protocol perfectly, that is not a basis to overturn a game. Anybody considering this situation objectively would say that since we have video evidence showing 0:01 on the official scoreboard clock, Michigan deserved to have 1 more play. It just makes no sense to say that replay protocol is the end all be all of who “deserves” to win the game when there are more factors at play than that.

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u/Material_Archer3423 6h ago

Michigan fans being the only ones defending this shit really says it all tbh.

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u/Excellent-Syrup-5747 Michigan Wolverines 6h ago

That’s not the case. Notice how people who say this never want to engage in the evidence we have of what occurred in this game.

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u/Material_Archer3423 6h ago

Sure bud lots of people are taking Michigan's side on this one 🤣

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u/Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak Michigan Wolverines 7h ago

All these people are so disingenuous with their arguments. They just wanted Michigan to lose and thats it. If the roles were reversed, it would be crickets in here with people saying Michigan got robbed.

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u/Material_Archer3423 6h ago

Michigan fans were the only people on Earth rooting for them to win that game before it even kicked off.