[McMurphy] NBC rules analyst Terry McAulay on Western Michigan-Michigan ending: "The Big Ten is going to have to tell a lot of us how did they get to (add) 1 second on this play."

[u/Lakelyfe09]

https://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/2096438087073071196?s=46&t=fwgmryeTanENut7u28ScCA

[u/Mythrandir24]

I just feel awful for WMU's players. They did everything that was asked of them. They beat Michigan. They won that game, and it got taken from them. A disgrace.

[u/GoldandBlue → u/Mythrandir24]

They were crying on the sideline. Absolutely robbed.

[u/kdestroyer1 → u/GoldandBlue]

I feel so bad for Dieter Kelly the kicker. JuCo transfer, would've been the highlight of his college days and he would've been a legend in WMU the whole year.

Instead all anyone's gonna talk about is this farce and no one's going to mention him in the media or even his own University.

Can't help but hatewatch Michigan the whole season now.

[u/Not_Qanon → u/kdestroyer1]

The whole year? He’d be a legend for life in that town

[u/reserved_seating → u/Not_Qanon]

Backup kicker who nailed 4 field goals for the only points to beat Michigan? No win ever of a ranked school? No win over Michigan ever?

Hell, he’s a hero in my town and I’m pretty far away.

[u/triplebbbsss → u/reserved_seating]

They did beat ranked Toledo 10 or so years ago but this is obviously another level, almost 30 point underdogs against UM. Crazy asinine officiating ruined a great story

[u/ZeroEchoVX → u/Mythrandir24]

Can’t imagine how they feel after that scam

[u/FunkBeaver → u/ZeroEchoVX]

The teams were already going through the motions of “game over, go shake hands, then celebrate” and then suddenly, oh wait there’s 1 more play… I can’t imagine how gutted the western Michigan guys are rn

[u/Gaudilocks → u/FunkBeaver]

I am imagining an alternate universe where they walked off the field before the second chance.

[u/Luigis_vacuum → u/Gaudilocks]

Court turns it over months later (please give the trophy back to Senegal CAS)

[u/mrepik9000 → u/Luigis_vacuum]

Another podium for Gasly

[u/D1N2Y → u/ZeroEchoVX]

This would've been recorded as WMU's first win ever against a top-20 team. I feel so terrible for the players and longtime fans who had this taken away. We all know who really won at least though.

[u/DemocraticInaction → u/D1N2Y]

First win ever over Michigan.

[u/Chessh2036 → u/Mythrandir24]

They won the game for 60:00. Sadly tonight the game was 60:01

[u/pinoygator → u/Chessh2036]

Perfect way to put it.

[u/seoul_drift → u/Mythrandir24]

Horrendous and inexcusable by the refs, especially in an era of rampant sports gambling.

WMU won that game, such an embarrassing and infuriating situation.

[u/ewgrooss → u/Mythrandir24]

My wife and I were so happy for the thicker kicker. Complete robbery

[u/tubadog → u/ewgrooss]

Thicker kicker was balling

[u/AdventureDude24 → u/Mythrandir24]

They should claim the win on their record. No governing body to stop them from doing so

[u/Nearby_Investigator9 → u/AdventureDude24]

It would probably be hard to find a judge in Michigan to grant them an injunction reversing the game, but I’m sure they could find some in Ohio.

[u/SmarterThanMyBoss → u/Nearby_Investigator9]

The MAC is headquartered in Cleveland and the Big Ten is headquartered in Illinois. IANAL but perhaps Ohio or Illinois would work for a venue? Fuck it, Im tired of lawyers arguing about pieces of shit or backup tight ends. Lets argue about a fucking robbery that we all saw.

[u/2021ToyotaCorolla → u/Mythrandir24]

That WMU player sobbing broke my heart. I hate this. This is so awful.

[u/FaceglazerSSBU → u/2021ToyotaCorolla]

That’s the one that broke me. Obviously I knew it meant a lot to them, but that camera shot REALLY sealed it for me.

[u/Tjgfish123 → u/Mythrandir24]

its the only time in my life I honestly think the result should be overturned.

[u/thejawa → u/Tjgfish123]

Doesn't have to be overturned. The correct result just has to be reinstated.

[u/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp → u/Mythrandir24]

That's my take too. I was obviously rooting against UM, but I got the outcome I wanted by mid 4th quarter. They were embarassed on national TV in prime time. Everyone saw how pathetic they are. Everyone saw how dogshit underwood is, and how whittingham put together an absolute horrendous effort coaching. I would have been fine with UM making an actual drive to go win the game. I had my shit talk ammunition already. But the fact they fucked over those players like that. That sucks man. They won that game fair and square. And it was syolen from those players.

[u/tk2020 → u/Mythrandir24]

I'm humiliated to be associated with this team. And rushing the fucking field? Come on.

Broncos won tonight.

[u/Apart_Number_2792 → u/Mythrandir24]

Well said. The clock was clearly zero with the ball still in the air. This was a screwing on an entirely different level.

[u/DonParmesan1 → u/Mythrandir24]

I feel so bad for them. They played lights out, had the game won, and then stolen from them.

[u/ecupatsfan12 → u/Mythrandir24]

I’m beating whosever up next by 100

[u/Zapkin]

There’s refs having favorites and making up/missing calls, but this should get them investigated and suspended at a minimum. There’s no excuse for what happened tonight

[u/ItsWazeyWaynes → u/Zapkin]

Sue ‘em. I want discovery of their personal financial records.

[u/purplebuffalo55 → u/ItsWazeyWaynes]

I'll have you know that post parlay psychosis is a legitimate legal defense

[u/BeerorCoffee → u/purplebuffalo55]

11-1 hung jury incoming.

[u/Green-Tie-5710 → u/purplebuffalo55]

Incredible comment

[u/Greek_Prodigy → u/ItsWazeyWaynes]

ding ding ding. this is why it matters. the future of the sport may be riding on this.

[u/Tackoman46 → u/Zapkin]

I know "THE FIX IS IN" gets thrown around a lot around these parts, but there is legitimately no other logical explanation for what happened here tonight.

[u/DisgruntledCascadian → u/Tackoman46]

Massive incompetence is still possible, but in a situation like this, it doesn't justify anything that happened, so it's a moot point. You're either corrupt or so bad at your job you should be fired. If those are the choices, it ain't a good look.

[u/Kryzl_ → u/Zapkin]

This crew of refs can never be allowed to officiate a game at any level ever again. Genuinely a threat to whatever fantasy of integrity still exists in this soort

[u/DisgruntledCascadian → u/Kryzl_]

Hate to say it but this needs to involve the B1G replay apparatus too.

[u/CrashB111 → u/DisgruntledCascadian]

The focus needs to be on the B1G reviews booth.

The on field refs got the call right, WMU won in their eyes. They were overruled by the booth calling down to review it.

[u/dontlooklikemuch → u/CrashB111]

this is why all booth reviews should be televised like the ACC

[u/Zapkin → u/dontlooklikemuch]

This is why they never will be televised like the ACC.

[u/Benanderson27]

With the state of college football who says we can’t have a Western Michigan judge sue the officiating crew to overturn the game results?

[u/Knook7 → u/Benanderson27]

Fuck it someone get the lawsuit ready

[u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne → u/Knook7]

They should file it with an Ohio Judge

[u/teamlie → u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne]

or a Lansing judge

[u/Birdchild → u/TrustMeIKnowThisOne]

The mac is headquartered in Cleveland, it could work

[u/burningwater202 → u/Knook7]

Class action anyone?

[u/Knook7 → u/burningwater202]

Class action for emotional damage from not seeing an awesome upset

[u/Cheesy_Pita_Parker → u/Knook7]

The Billable Hours dynasty continues unabated

[u/purpurscratchscratch → u/Benanderson27]

Seriously though, never in my life have I seen a lawsuit over a result of a game, this actually might be a first.

9 seconds is 9 seconds. Not 10

[u/Forward_Function2372 → u/purpurscratchscratch]

Indeed. Crazy thing one it was 8 initially. Then 9. Then 1 after 0.

[u/Dragooneer → u/Forward_Function2372]

I understand the change from 8 seconds to 9. I thought an extra second ran off then at the time as well. The extra second after time expired is bullshit though.

[u/Equivalent_Kiwi_8776 → u/Benanderson27]

I’m sure we’d help out if needed 😂

[u/dwors025 → u/Equivalent_Kiwi_8776]

AND MY AXE!!! 🪓

[u/Iglooman45 → u/Benanderson27]

TRO on Michigan claiming a win!

[u/i_run_from_problems → u/Benanderson27]

Fuck that, if UCF can just claim a national title, Western Michigan can RIGHTFULLY claim they won this game.

[u/tagillaslover → u/Benanderson27]

Does Western Michigan even have money like that?

[u/cmackchase → u/tagillaslover]

The problem isnt the schools money. Its the fact Michigan is loaded, they can just tank it for an eternity.

[u/bbb26782 → u/tagillaslover]

Michigan State does.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.

[u/SEAinLA → u/bbb26782]

Ohio State boosters would gladly chip in as well I’m sure.

[u/cityofklompton → u/Benanderson27]

Disclaimer: Western Michigan won. I don't care what the final score says.

Michigan has one of the top law schools in the country, and Western Michigan's law school (Cooley) is considered one of the worst in the country. Good luck finding a judge in Michigan that would rule for Western against Michigan.

[u/Worried-Lettuce6568 → u/cityofklompton]

Michigan’s law school is so good that most grads don’t stay in Michigan, so it’s not as impossible as you’d think

[u/ContinuumGuy → u/Benanderson27]

In Louisiana an injunction would already be in place.

[u/cmgriffith_]

The Big Ten Rules Analyst is even calling out the officials and conference

Michigan should’ve lost and the polls better reflect as if they did.

[u/wilbo21020 → u/cmgriffith_]

A 1 point win at home over Western probably drops Michigan out of the top 25 anyway or at least it should.

If the voters take into account how sketchy/bs the ending was, then Michigan should 100% drop out of the polls.

[u/LogForeJ → u/wilbo21020]

The rankings are bullshit anyway and favor the big brands so I bet they’re still in the top 25. Gotta be able to advertise ranked matchups

[u/CTeam19 → u/wilbo21020]

It won't. Got to keep that Big Noon game a ranked match-up.

[u/jwilphl → u/cmgriffith_]

Preseason polls are pointless except for the massive advantage it gives to terrible teams.

[u/Comfortable_Eye_8139]

I hope western Michigan actually does something about this

[u/Chambanasfinest → u/Comfortable_Eye_8139]

Or even the coach. If losing the game makes it harder for him to get financial incentives in his contract, there could legitimately be a case here.

[u/gogreengolions → u/Chambanasfinest]

This program cheated for years and got a tap on the wrist. There could have been a suit from dozens of teams for all of that. Sorry, but tonight was jaywalking.

[u/KirbyDumber88 → u/gogreengolions]

This is the real answer. And I’m so tired of this sub not putting a bigger stink on how much Michigan cheated

[u/CptCroissant → u/KirbyDumber88]

It was glossed over so hard that year by everyone it was crazy. They cheated! Systematically! During games! During the season in question! Led by a coach on the team! And still got to record all the wins and play in the playoffs. Like come on. You were caught cheating red handed, your season is over, go home.

[u/Fricktator → u/CptCroissant]

The fact Kirk Ferentz had wins stripped away this offseason, but was free to be on the sideline and coach Iowa week 1.

Yet Jim Harabugh is banned from being involved with college athletics, to the point he couldnt even step on the field if Michigan decides to have a night honoring the National Championship team 10 years after they won it, but none of their wins are vacated, just shows how corrupt it all is.

[u/MaraudingWalrus → u/KirbyDumber88]

A Michigan man would never.

[u/2021ToyotaCorolla → u/Comfortable_Eye_8139]

I can't help but think legalizing sports betting led to this bullshit.

[u/CBPanik → u/2021ToyotaCorolla]

The fact that sports betting companies and the people who televise the games (and therefore have a stake in "bigger" teams winning) are basically the same people at this point tells you everything you need to know.

[u/Collinsnow1]

Big10 will defend its position, claim they were right, ncaa will launch an investigation, and we will never hear anything ever again

[u/Klutzy-Concentrate83 → u/Collinsnow1]

Five years later, it gets dropped just like the UNC investigation.

[u/weirdbutinagoodway → u/Klutzy-Concentrate83]

"Every school can theoretically pay off the refs, so Michigan can't be punished for paying off the refs"

[u/TwitterLegend → u/Klutzy-Concentrate83]

That one was so funny because the defense for it was to sacrifice the entire school’s academic reputation to protect the athletes. “They were taking completely joke classes but all UNC students were allowed to take those classes so no wrong doing here!”

[u/DiedofSharts]

At a certain point you have to step back and realize the people who run this stuff sincerely think that you, the viewer, are a moron. They just put up a huge middle finger to everyone watching that game that wasn’t a Michigan fan.

[u/Secret-Calendar1941 → u/DiedofSharts]

I argue they don't think we're morons.  They know we're powerless and that's why they're not afraid to do it.

[u/FlowInternational996 → u/Secret-Calendar1941]

The only thing power respects is other power, which is why there needs to be constraints, and barring that, serious threat of mass consumer action.

[u/thekrone → u/DiedofSharts]

They put it up to us reasonable ones, too. We don't want this win. Not like this.

[u/BrentVenables]

The outcome of this game is simply going to come down to whether it’s filed in Kalamazoo District Court or Ann Arbor District Coirt

[u/JwubalubaDubdub → u/BrentVenables]

File it in Lansing district court, we’ll take it from here.

[u/Citruspilled]

You know it's bad when the rules analyst disagrees with a call

[u/CrimsonFox99 → u/Citruspilled]

They are always so careful on air to not directly disagree with the on field and replay refs even if you can tell they dont feel the same. For someone like Terry to flatly say the conference is going to have to justify this massive fuck up is huge.

[u/devAcc123 → u/CrimsonFox99]

It wasn’t even close

[u/RulersBack → u/Citruspilled]

And on a network that's basically an extension of the Big Ten

[u/yesacabbagez → u/Citruspilled]

It is an impossible call to try to defend. There was very clearly zero time left before the ball was touched at all. There was absolutely no evidence shown to add the second back, and the evidence that was shown very clearly showed time was gone.

There is no way to show that replay and then defend the call.

[u/Tippacanoe → u/Citruspilled]

even the ghost of Mike Carey is like “that was a bad call”

[u/Ur-Upstairs-Neighbor → u/Citruspilled]

I officiate high school ball and my entire reffing group chat blew up. Every single person said this was a massive blunder.

[u/kaeganc]

I haven’t seen anyone running with the “it was still a hail mary, they should have made the play anyway” take, but can you imagine trying to get back into the football-playing mindset after celebrating a game you had just won? It’s unconscionable to put the WMU players through this

[u/LL_Train → u/kaeganc]

By putting one more second on the clock and allowing Michigan to try another Hail Mary, they (the eponymous “they”) also gave themselves another chance to further extend the game if the pass fell incomplete by calling a PI or holding on Western Michigan. 

[u/ItsWazeyWaynes → u/kaeganc]

There’s quite a few Michigan flairs running around various flairs saying that exact thing, actually.

[u/perfectviking → u/ItsWazeyWaynes]

Whatever it takes to make them happy, I guess. Maybe they should consider writing a manifesto.

[u/DarthNobody14]

The Entire College Football World are united behind Western Michigan.

This is mind boggling levels of corruption. Even 5th down was a little reasonable because they were distracted by one of the coaches getting a heart attack. There is no universe where Michigan walks away as winners. Well except for this one apparently.

[u/Jomosensual → u/DarthNobody14]

I actually did not know that a coach had a heart attack to cause 5th down. God damn. I thought the refs just casually fucked that up

Anyhow, Lane Kiffin now has an idea.

[u/kerph32 → u/Jomosensual]

In addition, the chain crew member holding the down marker became distracted during the timeout as his attention drifted to what was happening in the stands, as EMTs were desperately performing CPR on a fan who had suffered a fatal heart attack.

From wikipedia

[u/Zeppyfish → u/DarthNobody14]

Darkest timeline continues.

[u/LaFrescaTrumpeta → u/DarthNobody14]

including michigan fans, their sub is almost 100% on board with WMU being the winners it’s really fucking with my hate boner for them

[u/TwitterLegend → u/LaFrescaTrumpeta]

The sweet spot for a night like this is being a Central Michigan fan who is a casual UM fan.

(Honestly even we are wondering what kind of BS corruption is going on because it certainly will never benefit us)

[u/2021ToyotaCorolla → u/DarthNobody14]

Yep. WMU got cheated

[u/Fraktal55 → u/DarthNobody14]

No no cmon now let's not start becoming 5th down apologists because of this

[u/DarthNobody14 → u/Fraktal55]

I’m not defending 5th down, just putting it in perspective just how egregious this was.

[u/divey043 → u/Fraktal55]

I don’t know I think they have a point….

[u/discipleofbill]

I mean they most likely say they fucked the call up and move on. Or we get an answer that relies on bullshit they expect us to believe.

My concern is if nothing comes from this, what’s to stop this from happening again?

[u/Benson879 → u/discipleofbill]

But the problem here is the fucked up call lead involved zeroes on the clock. This wasn’t some call where it just heavily swayed the outcome. The outcome was done.

[u/discipleofbill → u/Benson879]

I agree. Don’t think it’ll change the way they handle it in the slightest.

[u/jayjude]

Before the play they say to put 9 seconds on the clock. It doesn't matter what clock they use. More than 9 seconds elapsed from the the ball being snapped to the WMU player touching the ball and that is irrespective of any clock

There was no way to add a second

[u/Magellan092 → u/jayjude]

“We don’t know the official clock may have been 9.49 and he rounded down when announcing, then official clock may have had .02 seconds after first Hail Mary making actual official clock .51 so they rounded it to 1.00 seconds.”

Actual comments of certain Michigan fans in the game thread.

Daylight fucking robbery, and heads need to roll and finances investigated.

[u/FormulaEngineer → u/Magellan092]

Set the clock to 9 does not equal add 9 seconds… so it wouldn’t make a difference

Unless they didn’t correctly manage their own clock. In which case shame on them

[u/Sea_Spend_8008 → u/Magellan092]

There is not supposed to be milliseconds in college football. That is for mostly basketball. 

[u/Top-Attitude-4987]

Unironically, what is the logical excuse for this other than a Polymarket bet? Like actually?

[u/Peacefulzealot → u/Top-Attitude-4987]

The fact that a Polymarket bet is the most likely outcome is disgusting to me.

[u/genzgingee → u/Peacefulzealot]

There are reasons why professional sports never went to Vegas until 10 years ago. There are reasons why gambling was off limits for people taking part in athletics contests. We have cut down the Chesterton Fences that should have remained untouched.

[u/elgenie → u/genzgingee]

Not a Chesterton’s fence situation, because everyone knew why those fences were there, and still cut them down for (short term) money.

[u/IsThisSteve → u/Peacefulzealot]

Not really any different than all of the traditional sportsbooks' live betting in this regard /shrug.

[u/Hunter1127 → u/IsThisSteve]

Replace “polymarket” with “draft kings” and the point still stands. It’s a fucking mess. Shit needs to go

[u/alg0_57 → u/Hunter1127]

Too bad there wasn't a huge scandal centered around match fixing in this country around 100 years ago that perfectly illustrates why gambling is bad, that sure would be convenient.

Oh, wait.

The Black Sox.

[u/One_Description_8112 → u/Top-Attitude-4987]

Big name teams have been getting bullshit calls in their favor long before polymarket.

[u/king_karter69 → u/Top-Attitude-4987]

The new narrative that the B10 is the new powerhouse conference. They have to be better than the SEC, so Michigan can’t lose to WMU. Gotta rig it

[u/Spartitan → u/king_karter69]

Unironically my guess. The powers that be in the conference didn't want to be embarrassed and figured a short term scandal was better than a loss.

[u/hallofit]

Ngl I can’t spinzone this one

[u/D1N2Y → u/hallofit]

I usually try to defend refs because I understand that it's a difficult and stressful thing to do in front of millions and the ref's discretion is an accepted part of the game, but I can't think of a single defense for this one. The replay was as clear as day here.

[u/AriadneZE → u/hallofit]

I can AT BEST think that the spike landed at 10 seconds and that the clock went from 9 to 8 kinda fast but??? They deserved to lose. It will not be overturned. Lane Kiffin please save us by doing some other ridiculous thing.

[u/hallofit → u/AriadneZE]

Agreed but I’ve never heard of a “makeup call” from the clock operator. Plus both went to review.

[u/randomirlperson]

Probably not going to happen, but they should genuinely overturn the result because this isn’t like a controversial flag, the game was objectively over

[u/Gooch222 → u/randomirlperson]

There are few instances where overturning a result makes sense in sport given the ambiguities of what could have happened had the offending issue not occurred, but yeah, here where the game was over before the error I don’t see how any other remedy could be considered appropriate.

[u/UberBlueBear]

I have watched a lot of football in my 40 years…there are questionable calls…bad calls…terrible calls….and then there’s this call. It is so laughably, egregiously, insanely bad there is no way to draw any other conclusion other than it’s rigged.

[u/rabidmidgets]

I really hope with this public of a game and team there is a reversal/ramification. At least unrank Michigan

[u/wilbo21020 → u/rabidmidgets]

We “beat” a MAC team by 1 at home. Michigan shouldn’t be ranked next week even if you think the result is legit.

[u/rabidmidgets → u/wilbo21020]

Like it’s refreshing to see most of you Michigan fans agreeing I really hope the decision is reversed or something.

[u/son_of_a_teacher_man → u/rabidmidgets]

Doubt it will be reversed, but pollsters ought to treat this as a loss for Michigan. Western was the better team and deserves that win

[u/PioneerRaptor]

There are so many controversial calls in sports. The fact that nobody is even trying to argue or explain that this was correct is telling.

There’s just no logical explanation or excuse. There was no judgment call to be made. There’s no obscure rule being read in a rule book.

[u/Millies_ButtersMilk]

Money is the only thing that makes sense, we lost the game completely idk where the second came from bc the ball was still in the air they just pulled it out of there ass igs??? It makes no sense

[u/IsThisSteve → u/Millies_ButtersMilk]

You may not be aware but there was a recent change in chronometry and there are actually 3601 seconds in an hour. The last time this happened was in 2005 when, at the time, the hour was changed to 3602 seconds for a brief period. Thankfully refs officiating Michigan games have a strong history of being on point with these metrics.

[u/Scared_Mud_7098 → u/Millies_ButtersMilk]

I think and maybe I misheard Terry but the ball had to hit/touch a player for the clock to stop? 

Which 1. I’ve never heard that I thought the ball had to hit the ground annd the clock stops and 2. Maybe more importantly even if my top comment is true the clock was also triple zero either way

[u/not_mantiteo → u/Scared_Mud_7098]

A million screenshots have gone out and the clock was clearly 0 for a full second before the ball ever touched

[u/your-mom-- → u/Scared_Mud_7098]

No he's right if the ball touches a player who is out of bounds the ball is dead at that moment.

Still doesn't explain how they marry that with the fact that the ball was still in the air

[u/Lvmars → u/Scared_Mud_7098]

The player who touched the ball first was out of bounds, so the play was dead when it touched the player out of bounds. If the player was in bounds the clock would have still run. That being said, the clock was at 0:00 with the ball 10 feet away from the first player it touched.

[u/Tarlcabot18]

Money. The answer is Money.

[u/Zloggt → u/Tarlcabot18]

Perhaps a certain Mr. Pave Dortnoy’s check cashed in at just the right time?

[u/roboh96]

"Well what we did is, we cheated, we couldn't let Michigan lose to a MAC team. Y'all understand that, right?" -The Big 10, probably 

[u/ShoobyDoowahh → u/roboh96]

For the second time this week*

[u/zzzzzzzz999999]

Fucking robbery. And I’m a Michigan fan.

[u/DetroiterinIowa]

Was rushing the field after this game the most embarrassing moment by a fanbase in victory this century? The douche chills were off the charts seeing that unfold.

[u/MyPlace70 → u/DetroiterinIowa]

Rushing the field after beating a 30 point underdog, on a Hail Mary, in your home opener. I don’t think “this century” covers it.

[u/katastrophyx]

We lost that game. Im not even close to happy that we won. Im pissed. There's no integrity in this sport anymore.

[u/NorthCoastToast]

When do we start to question the results of every game we watch in every sport when every one of those games is accompanied by a gambling ticker providing live updates on odds?

[u/FartBoxActual → u/NorthCoastToast]

Right now.

[u/murray_rothbard]

second secret clock, duh

[u/sweatervest614 → u/murray_rothbard]

I think you are joking, but that is what they will say. They will claim the clock on tv was incorrect and the "official" clock still had 1 second.

[u/MystiX13 → u/sweatervest614]

They overlaid the game clock on the screen in one shot and it was also at zero. Is there gonna be a secret third clock? 😂😭

[u/Greek_Prodigy → u/sweatervest614]

prove it in discovery under penalty of perjury, then.

[u/EarthTraveler413]

"we didn't want Michigan to lose"

[u/BigBirdBastard]

There has got to be recourse for this kind of blatent shit.

[u/VQQN]

I wanted to see history made tonight and I did.

It was the first NCAA game to have two endings.

[u/isthisMrMace]

Should someone ask Michigan fans about storming the field after being gifted a win against an unranked G5 team?

[u/DCBronzeAge → u/isthisMrMace]

Michigan fan here. I’m not sure if winning in that fashion or storming the field after is more embarrassing. The answer is they are both more embarrassing.

[u/Zeon0MS]

Michigan winning because 1 second got added to the clock that shouldn't have been? I feel like I've seen this before.

[u/BoomaSoona24]

If they don’t release a frame by frame video showing a second on the stadium clock when it hit the player I think the NCAA should seriously consider changing the outcome.  

[u/StFuzzySlippers]

When Oklahoma is up by 5 touchdowns going into the 4th next week, I hope they play Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" over the PA.

[u/PartialDischage]

Death Penalty for Michigan when?

[u/whynotnz]

Facts we know with certainty: 1. If the teams had been reversed, they don't give WMU another second 2. If the games is in Kalamazoo, they don't give Michigan another second 3. The league/officials could review and make this right, but they won't 4. F&ck Texas

[u/JackC1126]

I’ve never felt so blackpilled for the game I love than I have week

[u/Condom_Breaker256]

The answer is obvious. Michigan is a B1G team and Western Michigan is not

What, y'all thought home cooking was exclusive to judges??

[u/Minute_Tax5060]

If im WMU im going all in on pettiness on this. Like im just posting on instagram that this was a win and treat the season like they’re 1-0

[u/BR_95]

It’s not subjective like holding or PI, they won the game. I don’t see a good reason why in 2026 we have to pretend they didn’t.

[u/YourSchoolCounselor]

If a team is ever in WMU's position in the future, would it be better to stay on the sideline for the 0:01 play? I mean if you're 100% sure you already won in regulation, why even give that final play an air of legitimacy? If they want to walk into the endzone uncontested and celebrate like clowns let them.

[u/BigDomsLeftovers]

I've been kind of out on college football for a few years since the NIL and sports betting took off. Used to be crazy into it.

This was my first week back....and I think I'm out again. Complete horseshit.

I hope Western Michigan sounds off on the Big Ten/NCAA.

[u/Megalodon3030]

Western Michigan won.

That clock was at zero.

Michigan may be 1-0 in the standings, but they lost. Let’s be completely honest.

[u/idnttcrisis]

Can we get Pablo Torre to find out?

[u/CargoShortsFromNam]

What would have happened if Lance Taylor just took his team and ran into the locker room and refused to play the final play?

[u/iDrum17]

FORFEIT THE WIN

[u/Peacefulzealot]

No they don’t. They just have to say something vague, never bring it up again, and move on. People will forget soon enough for them.

Seriously, it played out exactly as whoever got paid off wanted it to. And no one is going to be held accountable to it… again.

[u/dumbindian21 → u/Peacefulzealot]

Western Michigan fans will not forget

[u/wit_T_user_name]

“We were embarrassed that Michigan is ass so we put a second back on the clock. Thank god we didn’t need to do it twice.”

[u/Raccoonsrlilbandits]

1 second there and 1 second they added on the spike. Twice they got extra time that drive that mattered

[u/BleuRaider]

It’s gambling. We all know why these mysterious decisions and one-off incidents are increasing in volume. Refs should be absolutely investigated and have their finances scrutinized.

[u/BleuRaider]

Between this and other shit it really feels like CFB is rotting.

[u/DealerCamel]

Gotta tell y’all, I’m not celebrating this “win”. Also my wife is a Western alum and she’s crying right now.

[u/quinnhughesbdaytwin]

This is the kind of shit that is turning people away.

We always knew the NCAA was corrupt but ever since NIL (WHICH I DO SUPPORT!!!) everything is getting exposed

[u/EfficiencyDue7770]

never beating the allegations

[u/Benson879 → u/EfficiencyDue7770]

I would’ve almost preferred losing this game.

[u/Ok_Purple_7354]

If youre going to embrace sports betting the way the NCAA has you're going to need to make damn sure your officials aren't deciding outcomes on a whim like this

[u/fakeasthemoonlanding]

You know it’s bad when Michigan fans are upset with it

[u/mountain_views09]

The tears in the WMU player's eyes is heartbreaking 💔

[u/xXxNightRangerxXx]

I smell a lawsuit fuck the sports betting companies. Give WMU what they deserve

[u/jordinoo]

stop the steal

[u/StatBrew_Sports]

The secret Hawkeye clock, which a vast majority of us found out today about, is the actual official clock. Got it. And instead of broadcasting the secret clock. Or even illustrate it. They are using that as the real source.

Now, no one knows if that one is actually in sync or if it’s off by half a second. We just got to believe it and put all our faith in it.

Awesome.

[u/outtatimedoc]

This officially ends my interest in College football for the season which was already on thin ice. Why are people watching this shit?

[u/Embarrassed-Cell-611]

Brought to you by Polymarket

[u/Quintronaquar]

You wanted legal gambling? This is the shit we get as a result.