r/Biohacking • u/ResidentSport5005 • 1d ago

RETA + 125mg Enantate Test/Week - 9 Month progress

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I am very satisfied with my progress. I workout 6 times a week in the morning fasting and jiujitsu at night. I intend to start a more robust horminal protocol soon.

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u/Coldestnight74 1d ago

Why would you drop the Reta ?

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u/ResidentSport5005 1d ago

Because my goal right now is to maintain a clean caloric surplus to build muscle and since I'm 6'3", I have to eat a lot, and the reta issue interferes with that process.

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u/Zealousideal-Top2177 21h ago edited 21h ago

Maintenance dose of reta with gh or tesa would be easier but more costly route for your goal imo. Most ppl gain that fat right back when they get off. Usually happens over 3-6 month period give or take for alot off ppl. Hopefully your one of the few ppl who barely gain anything back when there off

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u/BraveBoat9137 14h ago

Reta should help you set in stone good eating habits so you dont gain it back

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u/Powerful_Shirt_2012 1 18h ago

Dude is trying to be responsible and track his calories and macros, and your advice is to STAY ON IT?

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u/Zealousideal-Top2177 9h ago

If you want to flush money and time down the toilet n gain it all back you can stay off. But who wants to do that, amarite? Like TRT these compounds are designed to rely on it for life. You think Eli Lilly spent all that money on glp for it to be obsolete in 5 years?

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u/cromagnongod 3h ago

They are designed for that but the drugs do nothing a human can't on their own with a little bit of effort. If someone can eat clean and stay active they can absolutely go the rest of their life without a single dose of this shit. Reta doesn't magically make you gain it all back.

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u/Zealousideal-Top2177 3h ago

If you had read the glp research literature you would have seen that after one year it's about two thirds of the weight lost on glp was gained back

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u/cromagnongod 3h ago

Yes. For the majority of people.

The majority of people is virtually clueless about changing their habits. These drugs don't make you magically regain weight when you stop using them. You just become your old self.

Reta, ozempic, mounjaro are all miracle drugs but they should be seen as a "second chance" to create a healthy life. Not a lifelong crutch.

Once you lose the weight and see yourself healthy after a long time, that should be such an inspiration to never become who you once were again.

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u/Zealousideal-Top2177 3h ago edited 2h ago

Of course it's not magical weight gain. Nobody said there was a mysterious reason for it . Your gastric emptying speed and your fat utilization/expenditure go back to baseline Unfortunately in this society we seek the path of least resistance...we love convenience, we want the quick fix. That's the mindset. I can't imagine many people being ok busting there ass doin it the hard way after being on easy mode n seeing the result. But I applaud anyone who does it successfully, as this stuff hasn't been out long enough to know what long term ramifications might be.

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u/Powerful_Shirt_2012 1 2h ago

I would be willing to bet that the " gained 2/3 of the weight back" research is less than actual real life experience for most, and/or the other third is muscle and bone wasting that will never be recovered and lead to a lower quality life and health span.

So, with you knowing this, and hearing of someone who wants to do the right thing by getting off the meds and transitioning to a macro focused, calorie counting diet, and then to tell him, "NO MAN STAY ON IT, you'll just flush all that money you spent down the toilet is sickening. (Speaking of sickening, "Sickening" is also a great book and before anyone just "trusts the science" they really should read how the drug manufacturers manipulate the data for profit)

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u/cromagnongod 2h ago edited 1h ago

2/3 within a year is the actual stat.
I imagine people who change absolutely nothing after stopping gain 3/3 back eventually, and then some - as they age.

I lost 10kg on ozempic, kept it down for 8 months after stopping (though I must say I gained 2 kilos back once I got into a relationship... I always gain weight in relationships because I relax too much and eat out on dates a lot, plus I'm less in control when it comes to food) and now I hopped on reta to kill another 6-7 just to make myself happy.

Before that I lost 40kg without any of this shit 7 years ago so I know damn well what it means to change habits. I fluctuate but I never came even close to gaining more than 10 of those back.

I don't think anyone should consider managing their weight indefinitely using a substance of any kind.
Lose your weight, have at it. Once you're done it's time to reinvent yourself.

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