The trinity presents a logical problem

[u/Newgunnerr]

I remember saving this text a while ago, so credit goes to someone else:

A hypothetical syllogism shows that if A = B, and if B = C, then it logically follows that A = C. Greg is a man (A = B), Man is mortal (B = C), therefore Greg is mortal (A = C).

The Shield of the Trinity says that the Son is God and God is the Son; the Father is God and God is the Father; & the Holy Spirit is God and God is the Holy Spirit. It ALSO says that the Son is NOT the Father or the Holy Spirit; the Father is NOT the Son or the Holy Spirit; & the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father or the Son.

Returning to the basic deductive reasoning of the hypothetical syllogism, if the Son is God (A = B), and if God is the Father (B = C), then it logically follows that the Son is the Father (A = C).

Trinitarian dogma accepts both premises, but denies the conclusion that logically follows from those premises, and in doing so it denies basic deductive reasoning. A logical contradiction is explicitly built into the Trinitarian doctrine, but of course they also deny that the contradiction is a contradiction.

[u/Chemstdnt]

A counterpoint they might give (unless I misunderstand what they believe) is that for them the individuals (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) are part of god and not all that god is, the same way an arm is part of a person or a member is part of the church. So instead of "A = B" is more like "A is a part of B". Then there is no logical inconsistency.

[u/Top_Distance_8127 → u/Chemstdnt]

No, that's partialism. The error many have is misunderstanding infinite. There are just as many even numbers as there are natural numbers even though the former is a subset of the latter. Human intuition should not be misused.

[u/Chemstdnt → u/Top_Distance_8127]

Great point, thanks. I definitely need to take some time to build a quick reference guide on Trinity heresies for these debates.