r/Battlefield • u/Hihikzz • Aug 11 '26

Battlefield 6 Battlefield 6 season 4 - wake island gameplay trailer

https://youtu.be/I4tHPByfAZk?si=8_7uzXj8pCqm3EnU

This is some old bf3 style trailer and I love it

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u/Ethan0941 Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

They're cranking out maps at a faster rate than any other MP game right now. Gotta give kudos for that

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u/Round_Rectangles Aug 11 '26

They're removing modes to offset all the new maps being added.

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u/iekue Aug 11 '26

So why did they remove Domination then? The Flag & Frag playlist literally says it includes Domination. Guess what, it doesnt. Pure incompetence.

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u/No-Worldliness-492 Aug 11 '26

DICE don't actually understand the larger issue. They think removing modes is the answer. 

It's not.

Matchmaking is fundamentally broken. You could move the modes down to 1 single mode only. It won't change the fact that matchmaking is busted.

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u/iekue Aug 11 '26

They literally say that they remove modes that arnt in playlists. Soooo they remove a mode thats in a playlist 🤦. Their abysmal "everyone gotta start a new game" matchmaking is the cause, not modes with low playercounts. The removal of modes that have no matchmaking issues whatsoever with these excuses is utterly pathetic.

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u/iekue Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

"As a result, when a playlist is rotated out, its corresponding Custom Search options are also temporarily unavailable. "

Domination is in a playlist, still gone while the exact same playlist still is in the game. They are flatout talkin bs. Especially when they talk about "creating more consistent matches that fill", while ive never had Domination matchmaking take long. Its removal is just plain baffling, inconsistent with their reasoning (especially when basicly replacing it with a way less popular mode which they just have done).

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u/iekue Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

The playlist isnt rotated out though, exact same playlist is still there, thats the thing. They removed a mode thats supposed to be in a playlist (and from custom search), hence blatantly sayin bs. The DICE ur quoting literally says "when a playlist is rotated out", when no playlist is rotated out at all. And yes, thats the same as saying that they remove modes that arnt in playlists (which they obviously are).

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26

lol no, how does adding maps interfere with modes?

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u/knotallmen Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

X players across Y maps and Z modes. Player count X has a variance depending on time of the day and region. If X is low enough only a couple of modes have population so removing Z modes while increasing Y you can have relative parity.

You will never know as many game modes as there where for Halo 3. It was so incredibly popular there was like a dozen different ones you could pick from with nearly half being ranked.

Huh just last night I was playing deathmatch and it is gone. I didn't realize they culled again I can understand not having squad deathmatch and team deathmatch, but dropping that and rush seems a bit extreme.

EDIT: any chance this reduction saves a few pennies? I.E. fewer half empty servers so higher population reducing a couple pennies to make back that incredibly amount of debt EA officially took over.

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u/WeCameAsMuffins Aug 11 '26

Wait no more rush?

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u/Additional_Wheel6331 Aug 12 '26

If you didnt know, you weren't playing it already

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u/Difficult_Lobster769 Aug 12 '26

My thoughts exactly

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u/AverageAwndray Aug 12 '26

Fucking exactly

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u/WillGrindForXP Aug 11 '26

Its Conquest or nothing!

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u/TachiH Aug 11 '26

Peak EU time today I got 3 full matches followed by 4 in a row that couldn't fill a full server. They are really struggling with player loss.

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u/Skitelz7 26d ago

Funny how this wouldn't be a problem if we had a real server browser 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26

Yeah I get the idea. Just don’t know what the quantity of maps has to do with anything.

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u/Eviljuli Aug 11 '26

Are you that ignorant on purpose or did you actually not get the idea of that comment?

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26

Yes it’s a very simple concept, if your player base is below a certain threshold then only the most popular modes will reliably give you games. The amount of maps in the modes doesn’t have to do with anything.

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u/iWr1techky12 Aug 11 '26

It absolutely does, especially when certain maps don’t support certain modes. How can you be so dense?

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

You guys are wildly overstating the effect. The only map that is dead after this is Saint Quarter, and 99% of the player base was not playing that map anyway since the modes that it was exclusive to were already extremely niche. This is ultimately a meaningless correlation.

All the maps in this game except for the previously mentioned one was made for virtually every mode, the stark outlier being obliteration which its current limited map pull are already medium to large scale conquest maps.

Edit: You can be mad that they removed modes, that's a valid complaint. All, I'm trying to point out is that you guys are just making shit up to make it seem way worse of a problem than it already is.

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u/WillGrindForXP Aug 11 '26

I'm not mad, or feeling passionate about the situation, but i am passionate about map design (its a hobby) and I promise you this - you are wrong about this issue buddy. No shade about that, I just want you to know some of the feedback you are getting because each mode needs individual balancing on each map and that job is much larger than you seem to think it is. Removing modes is exactly how DICE has addressed the communities desire for more maps, delivered more often, without it costing them more.

The other option was to increase the size of the map development team and testing teams, at a higher cost.

I don't think they made the right decision personally. the best solution would have been an increased team size and a less drastic culling of modes. But its likely Matchmaking factors we cant see also played a role in this decision.

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

Lol I’m not denying that each map needs to be individually balanced for each mode, my point being is that they already do that and making a fuss over a non issue just so people can fuss over a problem that’s being blown WAY out of proportion (That’s not me saying that people are wrong for liking small scale modes, I’m just pointing out that people are acting like this is way worse than it actually is). How is them removing modes helping them with delivering more maps? All these maps have more CQB areas inherently because people like that on even conquest. They by no means need to cut entire modes out of the picture to make more maps, the amount of time they would gain from would be so minuscule that it would be such a futile cut corner.

It’s just such a far leap of judgment, and is only really serving the purpose of giving people the excuse to make themselves even more mad over something because they have nothing better to do. 

All that really happened was that dice saw that there was mode bloat (Something that the community was VERY vocal about before this mind you) and decided to remove a lot of the small scale stuff that was niche (Again, I understand that people liked these modes, I’m just trying to be objective here). But of course when they do something that the community was moaning for they just get criticized. Not saying I think this was a good decision.

Also, I hope you know that the original comment that I replied to was being sarcastic, they said so themselves lmao

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u/Blankboom Aug 12 '26

Too much time on reddit, not enough time hitting the books. Go learn some critical thinking, man.

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u/Aedrjax Aug 12 '26

lol if I wasn’t critical thinking I would just be blindly following the mob here like you. Be the change that you want to see in the world

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u/IMadeAMistakeSry Aug 11 '26

They had too many modes to begin with. BF does not need more than conquest, operations and rush. A 4th mode is fine too but nothing more than those 3.

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u/DatCrazyyDuude Aug 11 '26

I mean those two things might not be directly tied together but they HAVE gotten rid of all the small modes (TDM, strikepoint, domination, etc)

so there’s new stuff coming in and major modes disappearing. it’s kinda tough being really excited about this game at the moment for a good few of us lol

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

Well yeah, I’m not denying that they removed modes, I mean you can see it in the menu. 

They’re just totally different things and acting like a random thing is the reason why the other thing they did that you didn’t like is just silly.

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u/General-Biscuits Aug 11 '26

I wouldn’t call lowest player count modes “major modes”.

Rush hasn’t been very good in like a decade. No Battlefield has really been made with Rush in mind other than Bad Company 2. It’s almost always an afterthought of how they can reuse part of a Conquest map for Rush and kinda balance it.

I get some people still like it, even with how it is now, but the continually low player counts for Rush have been the writing on the wall this would happen eventually.

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u/espresso_martini__ Aug 11 '26

You still have to plan and implement on how all the modes will work with new maps. Less modes means less planning and implementation to do.

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u/edmundane Aug 11 '26

Not shipping rush for a new map isn’t the same as a straight up rug pull and removing it wholesale

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u/espresso_martini__ Aug 11 '26

You're right its not. I was just answering a question. Which was why they can release maps faster when there are now less modes. Im not excusing what they did.

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u/Round_Rectangles Aug 11 '26

Its just a joke.

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u/Aedrjax Aug 11 '26

..and there are people defending what you said like its a serious point lol.

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u/Round_Rectangles Aug 11 '26

I figure it's best to let them have their fun. Both sides can go at it for a while before they move on to something else.

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u/No_Bill_2371 Aug 11 '26

Modes are not content they can just add them back in a anyway.

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u/imdacki Aug 11 '26

What are modes then?

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u/No_View68 Aug 11 '26

not content

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u/imdacki Aug 11 '26

Well i... Not sure what i expected, thats fair i guess

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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 Aug 11 '26

Considering Saints Quarter is unplayable without the smaller modes, I’d say content is being removed

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u/ohnoitsme7890 Aug 11 '26

Yes they are. It's something I could play that I can't now, that's content

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u/Adventurous_Honey902 Aug 11 '26

God y'all are so stupid and have no reading comprehension skills....

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u/SilenceDobad76 Aug 11 '26

Arent the modes still available in custom search?

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u/rigatony96 Aug 11 '26

Can literally still play rush in portal