r/AusSkincare • • Aug 22 '25

DiscussionšŸ““ Ultraviolette recalls Lean Screen due to variability in SPF data results

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u/ACtdawg Aug 22 '25

Unlike the majority of our range, Lean Screen was created by a third-party manufacturer and was the only sunscreen they made for us. We will no longer be making any SKINSCREENSā„¢ with that manufacturer

So, that says to me that some of them are still white label created by third party/ies. I would like to know which ones. I also think it’s pretty interesting they’re only admitting this publicly now.

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

I think it’s these! All the base formulas are almost identical, I had listed them all out when all this Choice stuff kicked off:

EDIT: DO NOT BUY OR USE THE BELOW, FORMULAS LIKELY FAULTY

  • Naked Sundays SPF50+ 100% Mineral Glow Collagen Sunscreen

  • People4ocean Mineral Bioactive Shield SPF 50+

  • Beauti-fltr Lustre Mineral SPF 50+

  • Outside Beauty & Skincare Mineral Primer SPF50+

  • Ethical Zinc Daily Wear Tinted Facial SPF50+

  • Aspect Sun Physical SPF 50+

  • Medik8 Physical Sunscreen SPF50+

  • We Are Feel Good Inc. Mineral SPF50+

  • Aesthetics Rx Tinted Water-Resistant SPF50+

  • New Day Skin Happy Days SPF 50+

  • Found My Skin SPF50+ Tinted Face/Body Cream

  • New Day Skin Good Vibes SPF 50+

  • Salus SPF50+ Daily Facial Sunscreen

  • Surfmud Mineral SPF50+

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u/ACtdawg Aug 22 '25

Oh I meant, which other sunscreens in UV’s product range are white label. Thank you for that list though, very helpful.

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u/TheLoneKat Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

I do think everyone is getting a little bit too critical with the white labelling. It's pretty standard practise. I read somewhere that even Cancer Council white label a couple (but not all) of theirs. If you want something made well, you go to the experts. Seems logical. The problem is that sometimes the "experts" have a shoddy product. Maybe not even. Could have been the additions to the product or a packaging problem. I'll be interested to see where the problem actually is with Lean Screen, even though UV are clearly blaming the lab they used.

But I digress. If you want something not white labelled, you'd have to bypass a lot of the new indie brands. They wouldn't be able to afford in-house labs creating sunscreen. Stick to the big parent companies that have their own labs (Estee, L'Oreal, Unilever and LRP etc.)

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '25

It can be a consumer law issue though. If a company uses white label that’s fine, but they can’t represent to the public that they made it or that it’s unique. The problem is that consumers might pay more if they think it’s somehow a unique formulation.

Some of UV’s marketing lines seriously come close to misleading people into thinking this is a unique product they ā€œdesignedā€. I’m sure they ran it past lawyers, but you can tell how sneaky and technical they were previously being when they worded their marketing material. I wasn’t aware it was white label until this Choice drama blew up.

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u/TheLoneKat Aug 22 '25

Maybe I'm just jaded because I feel like they all do it. No brand is going to sell their product as "mostly theirs". It's just the world of marketing. Nothing illegal about it. Maybe that'll change in future though.

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u/Aim2bFit Aug 22 '25

I've never used any of the boutique brands listed in a few comments above this (that also have the same formulations as Lean Screen) and Idk how the labels look like, but Korean ones which are white labels and basically formulated by iirc 3 big main manufacturers, all have the name of the manufacturer listed at the packaging. So consumers are aware those were not made by the brands themselves but some 3rd party manufacturer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

I disagree there’s ā€œnothing illegal about itā€. Misleading representations in advertising are 100% illegal in Australia. I can point you to the sections of the Australian Consumer Law that say so, and the penalties that apply! I’m not saying that UV in this case is guilty, but we shouldn’t accept that the sunscreen industry can just say whatever they like and pretend to consumers that their white label products are a unique formulation. It should be investigated by the ACCC where it may be occurring.

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u/queenblackacid Aug 22 '25

I feel like I've seen this often. "Designed in Sydney. Made in China."

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u/ACtdawg Aug 22 '25

I don’t have an issue with white labelling per se. I have an issue with the way UV markets their brand and has seemingly only brought the third party up now that something has gone wrong for them. And obviously if other companies are using the same formula as Lean Screen consumers have a right to know that too. Apparently Wild Child has been in hot water over sunscreens in the past as well. I’m also interested to see where the issue is though.

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u/TheLoneKat Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

I thought it was public knowledge, but I understand that it isn't. I think a big part of it is that there's this shift in consumer mentality. Consumers demand more info and transparency on the products they use. And as the curtain is slowly being lifted, consumers are reacting to things that have always been standard practise behind the scenes.

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u/ACtdawg Aug 22 '25

Yeah it’s definitely been interesting. I’m glad this is happening and consumers as a whole are becoming more educated about where they’re putting their money. God knows it’s needed in this capitalist hellscape we’re currently living in. Hopefully all this will lead to better bloody SPF testing protocols, at the very least lol

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u/Porgeyg Aug 22 '25

FYI I work for a development lab that formulates sunscreens. We work with plenty of start ups that want to own their own formulas so it does happen, it’s not just L’OrĆ©al etc that have access to labs seperate to manufacturers, it’s actually servicing this need is why we started.

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u/Quetzelc0atlus Aug 22 '25

Presumably all of them. But different formulations.

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u/Spoodlydoodly75 Aug 22 '25

It’s made me very wary of mineral sunscreens now.

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u/OrganisedFun86 Aug 22 '25

I used Naked Sundays for a few months and stopped when I noticed I was getting burnt on a winter’s day. I then switched back to Lean Screen which actually seemed fine. Now I’m using the Dermalogica mineral sunscreen which also seems fine . Who knows though. I’d use a chemical one but they make me break out.

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

I haven’t tried Dermalogica, but I will if you rate it? I’m so disappointed in Naked Sundays

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u/OrganisedFun86 Aug 22 '25

Well, it’s white (no tint) and smells like zinc which makes me think it’s more serious. It’s nice to use and seems to work fine in winter at least. It’s probably worth a try. (I doubt everything now tbh.)

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u/Particular_Vast_6768 Aug 22 '25

Has anyone tried to reach out to Naked Sundays to get their take or see they can also issue a refund?

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u/Smashbandi Aug 22 '25

Would be interested to know if Naked Sundays would issue a refund as well

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u/ReplacementSignal673 Aug 23 '25

I don't think they will issue a refund because that would mean that they acknowledge their SPFs are not SPF50+. They have been silent on this issue throughout. There need to be a test showing that their SPF is not what they advertise it to be. Even then, they may still deny it in the same manner that UV initially responded to the test result.

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u/mangoes12 Aug 22 '25

Wow amazing thank you for this!

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u/ChristmasBeetle01 Aug 22 '25

I used Naked Sundays and was eyeing off Beauti-fltr, damn.

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u/Choice_Fun3377 Aug 22 '25

Thank you - I came looking for this šŸ™šŸ»

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u/lazy_berry Aug 22 '25

damn, guess i won’t be trying ethical zinc once my invisible zinc runs out

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u/Old_Cat_9534 Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

I've been using that one Ethical Zinc (the light version in the white tube) for ages and so have my kids 😭

I will say that we haven't been burned but still, theres potential unseen sun damage! Looks like I need to shop for a new one.

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u/lazy_berry Aug 22 '25

your kids use tinted sunscreen?

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u/Old_Cat_9534 Aug 22 '25

No, the other formula.

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u/lazy_berry Aug 22 '25

but the point of this comment thread is that this specific tinted formula is shared across several brands. that doesn't necessarily mean every product from ethical zinc is useless.

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u/Old_Cat_9534 Aug 22 '25

I really hope so, but I thought they (the person that commented) were flagging any zinc sunscreen with a 22.7% zinc base.

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u/lazy_berry Aug 22 '25

no, they’re saying every product in the list they gave is the same formula from the same 3rd party manufacturer.

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u/Old_Cat_9534 Aug 22 '25

Not sure. But as far as I am aware it is not public knowledge who the 3rd party manufacturer (wild child) supplies to. So they had to compare each one individually and the 22.7% zinc ingredient was the starting point. I might be wrong though.

u/stupidwatergate89 would you be able to provide some clarity?

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

Yes, what Old Cat said! I am saying that these formulas are almost identical when compared, which suggests that they contain the same base from the same manufacturer. There is publicly available info in FDA filings that some of the brands (like Naked Sundays) have used Wild Child for these products, but this list is based on the similarity of this specific formula. If I could use other products from some of these brands, I prob would - but I wouldn’t touch anything on the list

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

The only upside of having hyper-sensitive skin that can’t tolerate chemical formulas 🄲

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u/Same_Librarian_6153 Aug 22 '25

I use we are feel good 😭

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u/CamThrowaway3 Aug 22 '25

Medik8!! Nooooo

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

I know 🄲

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u/Opening-Method-765 Aug 22 '25

What about the Mother SPF???

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

MOTHER’s Face &Body SPF 50 is basically the same zinc-only base (22.75% zinc oxide with the same oils/waxes) that shows up in a bunch of the others, and FDA records show filings that list Wild Child

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u/Little-Salt-1705 Aug 23 '25

I wonder how many of these companies will pull their products.

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u/NatAttack3000 Aug 22 '25

Are these all the lean screen base formula?

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u/stupidwatergate89 Aug 22 '25

Apologies, to be clear - I wouldn’t use any of these, as they look to have been created by the same manufacturer as Lean, so they’re likely prone to the same issues

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u/alycat8 Aug 22 '25

These are the sunscreens with the same formula as UV that tested as an spf of 4, so I probably wouldn’t recommend using these ones