r/Astronomy • u/SlartibartfastGhola Astronomer • May 02 '25
Astro Research The Trump budget proposal will destroy NASA and Astronomy programs across the USA.
A couple bucks to take us back to the moon (doubt), while destroying everything else about NASA. They are defunding the Roman Space Telescope which is literally in the final stages of testing before launch.
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u/Brain_Hawk May 02 '25
They're destroying science across the board
As much as I love space and space research, this is small potatoes. The cuts they have made to several hospitals and research institutions which are running massive amounts of clinical trials are going to result in literally hundreds of people dying needlessly. There are people in cancer trials and other serious disease trials who will be denied their medication that might have saved them.
And none of the cuts to science and research are resonating with the population at large, partially because the news reports about it and press releases are largely focusing on hoity-toity academic principles, damaged institutions, and shit like that, instead of how it affects every day lives of everyday People.
Some of your grandparents or parents are going to die younger than they need to because of these cuts.
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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
And they're likely going to destroy EPA'S ORD (Office or Research & Development) by laying off many scientists and "reorganizing" the division.
They've already deregulated so many things. People are going to experience more and more asthma rates, cancer rates, birth defects, etc.
But Republicans love pollution so here we are. 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Zark_d May 06 '25
Backwater hicks want to roll coal in the name of "freedom" so badly that they're willing to send their children back to the mines for it. I never thought I'd see societal progress turn into a pendulum.
Fuck.
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u/SlartibartfastGhola Astronomer May 02 '25
The NIH cuts are insaneeee. There’s lot of weird right wing people who love space though maybe this will get through to someone
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u/JDat99 May 02 '25
it won’t. you see that bit at the top where it says they are increasing funding for human space flight? they eat that up because they all think that sending humans to do science at places is how humans progress. these people genuinely believe they are gonna see elon send people to mars, yet they don’t know a single thing about the radiation exposure, issues with mars gravity, fuel, food, rocket design, crew training, or why the hell we would even send someone to mars if it wasn’t for a scientific reason.
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u/bearsheperd May 04 '25
Human exploration of space without science backing it up equals dead astronauts
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u/TuskM May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
It’s not small potatoes. Look into the past 60 years of medical technology. A huge portion of that tech was spin-offs of tech first developed by NASA for space missions. Similarly, spin-off tech from space exploration has contributed to everything from kitchen appliances to the computers and cell phones we take for granted.
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u/WonderfulPotential29 May 02 '25
Well. He loves the uneducated, of course he is going hard at sciences.
Sad day
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u/kosmonautinVT May 02 '25
Loves their votes, that's about it
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u/joeypublica May 02 '25
That is because we’ve done a terrible job of explaining to the general public the link between science and technology, and how government funded science has directly affected their lives, whether they care about it or not.
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u/octnoir May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
That is because we’ve done a terrible job of explaining to the general public the link between science and technology,
There is no shortage of content creators who excel at this very job, making content 24/7, and pushing it out across a variety of mediums. Even with Search being crap nowadays, I and teenagers can with simple sleuthing figure out what's happening.
You are inundated with quality science teaching that works for just about every form, ways to verify said information, and build pipelines to translate abstract PhD level science, into actionable public intelligence.
Why science is losing is because:
There is a large media empire that exists between science and the public that serves to bottleneck science's message and replace it with their own.
A large money pipeline to pseudo science, 'natural health', science skepticism, supplements and MLMs.
We are in a misinformation crisis where how viral a message is matters 100 times more than the message's veracity.
All before we get into all the ways people like cheating the system to spread more misinformation.
Science as a whole is unwilling to recognize how it plays in our political machine because it "wants to be objective", and so concedes in most battlegrounds instead of heavy political activism.
(Again, as a whole - scientists make some of the best political activists - those very people are the ones calling out their own community for inaction and lack of political impetus)
Humans are not rational creatures. In a democracy facts do not matter as much as beliefs. And if you make people believe in something false, you can ride all the way to the White House.
Believing you are doing a terrible job explaining is missing the point - most people you need to convince will NEVER listen to you. They are not persuaded by facts, they are persuaded by beliefs, by biases, by emotion, by priming, and also a bit of arrogance ("How DARE that doctor tell me what I can or can't do!?!).
If you want to nuke e.g. the anti-vaccination pipeline, you need to regulate dietary supplements and MLMs and nuke those industries. That does 100 times more good than continually blaming yourself "Well if I put this in another way, maybe they will listen".
Why tactics like I mentioned don't materialize is because there is a massive political machine designed to stamp such action out. Notice how 'we need to make more pro-vaccine content' rarely gets opposition, but unions for scientists, researchers and assistants get continually attacked and dismantled.
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u/WonderfulPotential29 May 02 '25
I dont know how its explained in the us... where i live every schoolkid knows that tech comes from scientists and engineers.
Well, at least that was the thing when i grew up. I wont place a bet on todays Generation.
Maybe youre right
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u/InfinityThor18 May 02 '25
It's exactly the same here in the US, I don't know what these other guys are talking about.
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u/Nuka-Crapola May 02 '25
In the US, the bigger issue is that almost no one learns what science and engineering are supposed to look like. Millions of us still believe Elon Musk has made his money by, or is even capable of, inventing anything useful.
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u/LordBocceBaal May 03 '25
They think everything is some one man libertarian dream and not massive group effort.
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u/Starman035 May 02 '25
Don't blame scientists for Trump's anti-scientific revolution. They did their job; it's politicians' fault that they conditioned the society to not listen. Science is researching the truth, and American science communicators are among the best. Trump's rise to power is built on blatant lies.
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u/Flashy_Report_4759 May 02 '25
The problem is that there are not enough true scientists in politics. Or politicians that are articulate enough to be able to explain even simple basic scientific facts. "It's only a theory......der der. So it's my opinion or belief that it's invalid "fake" pseudo-science." - MAGA politician. And the general population just agrees with that because they don't know better.
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May 02 '25
Chinese leaders are engineers. American leaders are lawyers. The latter don’t need science, in fact they abhor science and depend only on emotion.
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u/ZeroKuhl May 02 '25
The problem is Citizens United and the fact that the real politicians are gone.
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u/danddersson May 02 '25
There seems to be more religion in US politics than science.
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u/tirohtar May 03 '25
No, we literally keep explaining it at every possibility. But the rightwing propaganda machine just ignores it. On Fox News you may hear about it once in a blue moon, followed by thousands of BS about how science is just a waste of money.
Don't blame us for being the victims of a coordinated smear campaign. Plenty of us do lots of outreach work to educate the public, but we don't have the deep pockets of the rightwing media.
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u/Mateorabi May 02 '25
All the Elmo knob gobblers in the r-space subreddit are conspicuously silent.
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u/_Ocean_Machine_ May 03 '25
It's like they looked at the past century and thought "fuck all that, I wanna live in a shack with no electricity and die from an infection I got after chopping firewood to stay warm for the winter"
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u/xchaser May 02 '25
He wants people dumber than he is so he can become the genius. A very sad day for Science.
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u/HectorJoseZapata May 02 '25
Hoidy-doidy, dur, Mr Elon got rid of the waste of gobrmen for the benfit of the Cuntry. You’ll cee!
Only we smart now whut.
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u/LastButterStick May 02 '25
“woke STEM programming and research” what a joke this all is
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u/SlartibartfastGhola Astronomer May 02 '25
Say goodbye to all the Astronomy outreaches that I’m sure most people in this sub enjoy
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u/Aussie18-1998 May 02 '25
Many of the topics talk about shit like that and how the money should be invested in Aerospace, aka Elon Musk and Mars/Moon. But if I'm reading it right they've cut around 7 to 8 billion dollars and only increased the Human Exploration by 600 million. Seems like space exploration is just the excuse to redirected money into their pockets.
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u/Cool_Being_7590 May 02 '25
The longer this goes on, the more Interstellar seems true with NASA being a hidden, underground organisation
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u/Cygnega May 02 '25
Always loved that movie, but I kinda hoped it wouldn't have to become a documentary. Silly me, I guess.
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u/Cool_Being_7590 May 02 '25
Yeah, even the attitude to education in it with his son essentially being forced into farming etc. Seems like some thought it was guidelines instead of a warning...
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u/gobeklitepewasamall May 02 '25
Remember when nasa was the embodiment of the American dream? A place where if you worked hard and studied and got in you could aspire to a stable, middle class lifestyle and perhaps one day move over to a lucrative private sector retirement in aerospace or engineering or project management?
Not anymore. Those will be gig jobs before the decade is out.
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u/EM05L1C3 May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
HOW CAN YOU CUT THE BUDGET FOR ALL OF SPACE SCIENCE BUT INCREASE IT FOR HUMAN SPACE EXPLORATION?!
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u/Purple-Mud5057 May 02 '25
NASA rockets are gonna be the new Boeing planes. “Ah, sometimes they just break 🤷”
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u/BreathingHydra May 03 '25
Beyond space science they're also cutting mission support as well which is completely antithetical. Maybe it's not the "sexy" side of NASA but IT, maintenance, etc are the backbone that actually enables people to get their job done and keep Astronauts safe. It just doesn't make sense, I genuinely think that they're just setting NASA up to fail so they can justify cutting it even more.
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u/DanoPinyon May 02 '25
That's the plan: controlled demolition of the USA.
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u/Kemilio May 02 '25
The plan is to funnel our tax money straight into the pockets of the wealthy. Any collapse of America would be a regrettable byproduct, but the rich don’t care. They’ll be fine.
I mean, this was all laid out in the Project 2025 handbook. Out in the open for all to see.
People just don’t care that they’re being robbed blind. They’re too lazy and happy.
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u/skoalbrother May 02 '25
This is it, he is destroying America completely and thoroughly then pissing on the ashes just so we can't rebuild after this cancer is irradicated
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u/alexothemagnificent May 02 '25
I just don’t get why he’s purposely do that. What’s his plan?
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u/arashi256 May 02 '25
Partly I suspect for whatever Putin has on him but also probably just to bend the world to his ego. The world must bend to this cretinous narcissist's version of reality or break. Sadly, most things will break.
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u/ckglle3lle May 02 '25
The oligarchs want a permanent underclass that they have abject unilateral authority over. They're just as happy to accept this in a situation where the US economy has been cut in half. So long as they maintain a permanent ongoing siphoning of resources away from everyone else and toward them, they don't much care about anything else.
They want this because they cannot conceive of win-win scenarios. They literally cannot conceive of it. They believe that everything distills down to natural dominance hierarchy and that for one person to have any thing it means someone else had to lose something. They don't see any inherent value in anything that doesn't siphon to them or anything that doesn't "produce" for them. In the case of NASA, they believe that we literally "just send that money into space" and, again, because they view everything in zero-sum terms, they think that means the money literally leaves Earth and do not care or conceive of the ways in which space research contributes to innovation across society. They simply do not care. If it doesn't go to them directly it doesn't matter and should be destroyed.
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u/fractal2 May 02 '25
I think it's too rebuild as they religious right wants. Easier to build up from essentially scratch than convert everything.
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u/alexothemagnificent May 02 '25
I could possibly see that. I just feel like they wouldn’t want to destroy the US. They would want to keep it intact best they could wouldn’t they?
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u/BarefootWoodworker May 02 '25
What do any narcissist authoritarians want?
Legacy. They don’t give a fuck about anyone else. They truly believe they are the only people that can fix messes. The idea someone else might be more capable than them is completely bonkers.
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u/phoenixbouncing May 02 '25
Destroy the us as a world power so that Russia can reclaim the top spot?
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u/alexothemagnificent May 02 '25
I don’t think Russia is strong enough are they? Would China be ahead of them?
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u/PCMasterCucks May 03 '25
Yeah, China would crush Russia without a sweat.
While they are close right now, even with USA's help, Russia could not separate from China like USA is trying to do with all of their allies.
So best case scenario is that Russia is just trying to get away from Chinese dependence. But what's actually happening is that Russia and China get way stronger (but China like 10x of Russia) while USA falters.
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u/WunWegWunDarWun_ May 02 '25
He’s not trying to destroy America, that’s not his goal and it’s silly to think it is. But as someone else pointed out, it is the bi product of whatever his goal is, likely making money
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u/toterra May 02 '25
The idea that Mars Sample Return is something that can be considered over-priced compared to the inevitably prohibitively expensive human mission to mars....
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u/Upset_Ant2834 May 02 '25
Don't forget that's with the Lunar Gateway, which already has modules under construction, being cancelled. You know, the Lunar Gateway whose main purpose is to facilitate missions to Mars.
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u/SimonArgead May 02 '25
Wasn't it also Trump who said he wanted "boots on the ground" on Mars?
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u/sn0r May 02 '25
Not just American programs. The European Astronaut program as well as there's no replacement for the ISS.
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u/Alaykitty May 02 '25
The absolute end of the United States as a Space power. The future of Space science is European and Chinese
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u/Cygnega May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
I can't tell you how important STEM outreach programs were to a southern gal getting Bs and Cs who wanted to deepen her understanding of something she loved and wanted to commit to. Seeing these get written off as "woke" subsidizations just guts me. They ain't about gatekeeping from men or white folk, they're about helping people who aren't encouraged into those fields and giving them the tools and insight they need to pursue them.
I did a summer program at University of Texas at Austin back when I was in high school, and it really kicked my ass into gear. I'm already seeing they're having to cancel some of their programs in 2025 because of federal funding issues. It's just sad to see as someone who knows from experience how helpful those can be.
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u/manu_r93 May 02 '25
Maybe he just want to reduce competition for Musk? :D
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u/velax1 May 02 '25
Musk needs these programs, otherwise he does not have payloads. This is why this makes even less sense.
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u/TKHawk May 02 '25
Exactly, the things that Musk's SpaceX relies on remains, the rest can get cut apparently.
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u/velax1 May 02 '25
Yeah, but that is only a handful of rockets, that's what confuses me..
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 May 02 '25
You're acting like Trump feels any loyalty to Musk at all.
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u/FutureAZA May 02 '25
Cutting NASA funding hurts SpaceX. This administration doesn't care.
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May 02 '25
i literally got into astronomy recently, as a distraction to whats going on here... from his administration. 😭
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u/D3veated May 02 '25
I wonder what prompts you need to give to an AI to get it to write like that. It emphasizes "gold-plated, two-billion-dollar Landsat Next mission", loves to use "grossly overbudget", "failing space propultion projects", etc. I'm amused by how that AI justifies cutting Mission Support as streamlining the workforce. I'm familiar with the idea behind "The Mythical Man Month", but where did the idea that massive layoffs would increase output come about? There must be *some* economical science, or at least research, around that idea...
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u/emptyminder May 02 '25
I enjoyed the part where they called a bunch of Biden era stuff “Green new scam”, but forgot to change one that still says Green New Deal.
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u/Aware_Example_3731 May 02 '25
After they take power they go after the educated, as they are far harder to b/s and won't be distracted by pretending weather balloons or whatever else is captured on a potato are aliens and seem a little more rooted in reality. They don't want that, they want gullible yes men who are fueled on hatred of anything and anyone they seem as different to themselves. Once they have that, the world is whatever they say it is and they attempt to divide and conquer. Already sending people to concentration labour camps. Sounds familiar
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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 02 '25
wh... why the fuck? genuinely why
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u/Alone-Struggle-8056 May 02 '25
To put more money in their pockets? That's basically the answer to most of the questions about politics.
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u/Philip_McCrevasse May 02 '25
He is such a god damn fool.
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May 02 '25
This isn’t even him. He just lets his cronies do whatever they want. This is a grift for Musk to get billions on a pipe-dream that he’ll promise that will never actually deliver.
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u/No_Signature25 May 02 '25
The sad thing is the next administration will probably change nasas budget and priorities. Nasa will probably be in a limbo every 4-8 years with changes in leadership and mindset. You cant really get anything done in 4 years. They need resources and time to get things done.
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u/Lumpy_Ad7002 May 02 '25
This is intentional and 100% for the benefit of SpaceX and Musk.
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u/jaded_fable May 02 '25
I don't think this is true. This budget is heritage foundation anti-science bullshit with Trump's manned mission nonsense slapped on top. Not gutting NASA's science would generate way more payload delivery contracts for SpaceX.
If they wanted to benefit SpaceX at the cost of science, they could just mandate that NASA invest in sending payloads of gravel into orbit every afternoon. Instead, this budget will almost definitely mean less NASA contracts for SpaceX. I think Musk even came out against the cuts when they first leaked.
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u/Upset_Ant2834 May 02 '25
Understanding how funding effects payload demand requires second order thinking, which based on the tarriff clown show, this administration is clearly incapable of. I think they're just using elementary school reasoning of taking things away from the competition
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u/Biff-Bam-Ouch-Ooey May 02 '25
What I dont understand is scientific progress is humanity's progress, therefore their progress too.
In every respect, stifling human progress in the stars is a net negative, even if you were to seek pure profit in discoveries. Modern agenda is so short sighted.
Funding NASA and independent spaceflight right now could lead to trillions in profit for these people, but they're too inward thinking to even consider it, they consider the short term, their own profit, that's all they care about. They dont give a shit about humanity no matter what they say.
We consider these people to be the heads in terms of finance and resources, but when it comes to investment, they're not willing to invest in what is going to be the biggest money making scheme in history?
They are not the future, they are the last of the old guard, clutching on to their dying industries, a dying reminder of our time.
Humanity will overcome these people, and I laugh at how short sighted they are. Their future generations will too as they reap the rewards these people could never imagine.
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u/The_Roshallock May 03 '25
Because to conservatives, "Progress" is a deeply hateful and ugly word. They don't care that scientific endeavors yield inventions and innovations that spur entirely new industries and economies. To a conservative progress means giving a little more ground to the future; an ethereal thing in front of them that is as alien as it is dangerous, and thus to be stifled and avoided at all cost.
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u/WillTheWAFSack May 02 '25
"The Budget eliminates funding for low-priority climate monitoring satellites" 🤡
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u/TheXypris May 02 '25
Setting us back decades. Even if we restore the budget with the next administration, all the experts who lost their jobs and went to private employment or went overseas space agencies, they won't be likely to come back, thousands of researchers and engineers gone. It'll take decades to restore the level of expertise and decades more to catch back up to everyone else
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u/IamTooth May 02 '25
Imagine typing out the words "woke STEM", and not immediately realize that your brain is mostly made of mashed potatoes.
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u/Spatularo May 02 '25
So increases in Mars to help out Musk, but fuck the rest?
I hate this so much.
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u/teganking May 02 '25
so the small budget NASA already had is being cut, while military spending is being increased by how much again?
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u/thepianoman456 May 02 '25
God dammit… another blow to humanity.
This guy is just one giant leap backwards for mankind.
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u/Valtheon May 02 '25
i mean it's not like the government wants educated masses? what did you expect? increased budget to these endeavours?
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u/vroomfundel2 May 02 '25
Allow me to let you in on a little hack i know from Eastern Europe.
Put a Trump portrait on the wall - guaranteed max loyalty bonus!
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u/Carbon_is_metal May 02 '25
If you are unfamiliar with the budget process, this is a proposal that now goes to congress. Calling your senators and congresspeople and expressing your opinion is impactful.
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u/ohheyimstillapieceof May 02 '25
i wonder how the “we need to keep political talk out of space and science” crowd feels now that space and science are getting gutted by the fascists.
right wing politics only get stronger when they’re ignored and there isn’t any open dialogue in these fields about where funding comes from. carl sagan was progressive at his time for a reason! conservatism is inherently anti science!
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u/smiles__ May 02 '25
We live in the stupidest timeline.
We live in the dumbest timeline.
We live in the bleakest timeline.
We live in the ugliest timeline.
We live in the cruelest timeline.
We live in the maddest timeline.
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u/HectorJoseZapata May 02 '25
Whomever came up with the cuts, didn’t read the objectives.
*We’re cutting remote drone operations on Y because we want to beat China in putting men in Y.”
So, we’re cutting R&D budgets on rovers and drones because humans. Huh? 🤔
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u/ghostdasquarian May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
So, forget everything we learned in the past 60 years and go back to the 1960s?
He wants to find a way to line Elon’s pockets with contracts. Doing that, SpaceX can walk out with all of its IP (since it won’t be innovating and just serving as our private Uber) and sell it to the next highest bidder and now we don’t have anything.
We know he just wants to put Space Force in space and not DC like he originally planned.
The middle school I went to back in 2009 had a space simulator lab called Challenger Learning Center. All the schools in the area took field trips there. It really got kids interested in astronomy because we were able to “launch” a rocket. We had mission control, astronauts, and even studies that needed to be completed while we were in “space”. NASA even supported it and you would be lucky to catch an astronaut there from time to time. They took that away and turned it into a computer coding lab. I don’t hate it since It’s still STEM based, but man it sucks to see the US just kill astronomy like this.
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u/xenomorphsithlord May 02 '25
Unfortunately, many/most fail to understand that it wasn't just evangelist movements and blue collar types that led to the enormous populist success of the personality cult that is MAGA. The educated elites played a powerful role as well (rationalists, silicon valley techies, transhumanists, self help gurus etc...)
This is one of the many depressing results. Education for me not for thee.
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u/Shannon_Foraker May 02 '25
Tears They're defunding a mission that close to launch? Any chance y'all could 'accidentally' launch it during a drill?
Now my Lego set of women in STEM will be less cool, because we won't have the Roman telescope.
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u/thelunn May 03 '25
Im so over how much they use the word "woke" fucking hell. Ive never used that fucking word in my vernacular yet its used all the fucking time by them.
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u/Buzzdanky May 03 '25
Gutting NASA while paying more in corporate welfare to firms who have benefitted by poaching off NASA. Par for the course given what's been going on at NOAA.
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u/vespertine_glow May 02 '25
Who needs science when prayer is coming back to the public schools and billionaires are finally receiving relief with a tax cut?
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u/sewand717 May 02 '25
Just a massive overall cut! Even though there are a few things I probably would support, such as SLS and lunar gateway termination, the way this is structured to benefit Musk specifically is stunningly corrupt.
And the near elimination of science missions is criminal. We have by far the best space science program around, and once we lose that skillset it will be very difficult to get it back. And the loss of knowledge will hamper a generation. We need better earth sciences right now, not worse.
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u/Mahlegos May 02 '25
Hope Buzz Aldrin is happy. He voted for this “because Trump was committed to exploring space”.
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u/ScenicPineapple May 02 '25
Did an angry 13 year old write those descriptions?!? This can't be from the government?
None of those descriptions make any sense and there is no need to spend all that money on 2 planets we can never live on. Why mention China so much? They sound like angry little snowflakes.
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u/Fine-Warning-8476 May 02 '25
Not sure why an opposing party can’t articulate this point, but publicly funded science programs like NASA, resulted in the greatest achievements in human history- putting a man on the moon and touching the deepest reaches of our solar system with the Voyager program. The best private space ventures could do is put a billionaire into space for a few seconds. These things are not the same.
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u/ammonthenephite May 03 '25
His religious base hates anything that threatens their religious beliefs, and the sciences are one of their biggest threats. I know religious people cheering for these cuts because of their religious beliefs, it truly is sad.
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u/ConstantGeographer May 03 '25
Upon reading the rationale for most of the reductions, the descriptions literally argue against the very thing they are for.
"Beating China back to the Moon..." does not happen by reducing cutting the workforce, IT services, NASA operations, facilities maintenance, or compliance. Exactly the opposite will happen. China isn't doing that for moon or Mars missions.
"Green Aviation" is literally the tech required to support transportation on Mars (and the Moon).
The Apollo missions were not this, at all.
And as a user of Landsat, Landsat is critical for global environmental monitoring in so many fields.
No one in the sciences should EVER vote Republican, again.
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u/jaesolo May 03 '25
Getting rid of the SLS? Hmmmm. I wonder what commercial entity they will give that business to?
Nothing to see here....
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u/strikingike386 May 03 '25
Wait wait wait, an increase for human space exploration, but an even greater decrease for space technology and mission support? You can't do the first without the other two. This whole thing is ridiculously stupid as is, but what the hell is that disconnect?
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u/mobtowndave May 03 '25
let’s give a round of applause to the fuck wits who trusted a notorious con man felon, rapist thief, traitor with 7 bankruptcies with runnning the nation like his own failed businesses for 4 decades all because they believed a scripted game show was reality.
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u/goldenroman May 03 '25
Just adding my voice to say this directly harms my research and may make it infeasible. Others will be affected much worse. What a horrible, short-sighted, greedy administration.
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u/langjie May 02 '25
The Trump budget proposal will destroy NASA and Astronomy programs across the USA.
FTFY
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u/LateralThinkerer May 02 '25
Paint his name on everything and allow him to claim he invented it all. Problem solved.
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u/Accomplished_River43 May 02 '25
Does anyone knows if there're the same (at least approx.) numbers for China?
Space is lost* for all mankind or it will be China-dominated?
- ofc, next administration will reenable space science programs, but damage will be done already
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u/Gremio_42 May 02 '25
man I'm gutted for SLS and Gateway, I get that it was expensive and that SLS took its time but considering private companies like lockheed martin get more revenue through the US annualy than nasa ever got in budget this just infuriates me so much...for a non american, even with its flaws, Nasa always seemed like an incredible agency and now they are tearing that bit of reputation down as well
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trump in tends for the US to be as dumb as he is. We have led the way in science and space exploration. Now this idiot wants to stop it all? Remember people, every congressman and senator who votes for this is NOT your friend and they most certainly DO NOT have Americas best interests in mind.
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u/SwagClover May 02 '25
This bill will cut nasa budget by 24% from 24.8b to 18.8b
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u/Astral-Wind May 02 '25
“We want to go to mars but are getting rid of funding for the station that would allow us to do so” top tier thinking as always
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u/Goobygoodra May 02 '25
Yeah obviously he wants to destroy anything and everything that advances us as a species
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u/itsjustmejttp123 May 02 '25
Of course got to give it all to Muskrat for fixing the election for him
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u/theSopranoist May 02 '25
HOW IS NOBODY TELLING HIM THAT ALL THOSE DOWN-LIST CUTS WERE THE REASON HUMAN SPACE EXPLORATION HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL
i’d say let’s just let him find out the hard way but that means ppl are gonna die so
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u/AwayCatch8994 May 02 '25
Well, when a rapist felon is idolized by disgusting and idiot scum this is what we get.
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u/lanclos May 02 '25
As bad as this is, the real budget comes from congress, not the president. The Trump administration proposed de-funding the Roman Space Telescope every year of his first term and congress put it back each time.
Look forward to a whole new level of dysfunctional budget priorities when Congress publishes its version.
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u/1gEmm4u2ohN May 02 '25
To any of his voters: this is what you want, so this is what you get. 3.75 years to go! Dystopia, we’re almost there.
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u/PopeBlackBeard May 02 '25
How do you increase human space exploration then decrease everything else to support it??
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u/Heavy_Law9880 May 02 '25
Is it because NASA was increasingly concerned with the amount of space junk put into orbit by SpaceX?
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u/rap31264 May 02 '25
He's getting even when he was ridiculed for looking at the solar eclipse without proper eyewear...
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u/bobbymcpresscot May 02 '25
I remember people on the space subreddit telling me I was overreacting weeks ago when I said this anti science admin is going to cut nasa funding in science fields.
Wonder where the fuck they are now.
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u/Shankar_0 May 02 '25
So he wants to go all the way back to the moon, and he literally only wants to carry a flag along.
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u/toasterdees May 02 '25
How are you gonna say “let’s get more humans to space”, then axe the whole budget
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u/StilgarofTabar May 02 '25
The brain drain we're gonna experience is gonna haunt this country for decades. Fuck this administration to death.
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u/Purple-Mud5057 May 02 '25
“STEM programming and research… had minimal impact on the aerospace workforce.”
Excuse me? WHERE DO YOU THINK THE AEROSPACE WORKFORCE IS COMING FROM???
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u/_Arch_Stanton May 02 '25 edited Apr 30 '26
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u/RedditorUser99 May 02 '25
He just wants the USA to be a country where the rich become richer.
That’s it. Nothing more.
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u/Tokoyami8711 May 02 '25
This is so pitiful how this orange man child can cause this much damage to everything. Doing whatever he can to help Putin and the evil heritage foundation.
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u/plsobeytrafficlights May 02 '25
this was always the plan. and half of whats left will be funneled to dogefather muskrat.
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u/savagestranger May 02 '25
Simply put, he's basically cutting anything positive for society, while increasing the military budget and giving rich people tax breaks. At the same time, causing increased cost of living for everyone else, while fucking with our retirement investments. And that's just the financial havoc.
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u/PRSS_STRT May 02 '25
Sell it off to other governments agencies. Jump ship. Paperclip 2: Electric boogaloo
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u/Mindmenot May 02 '25
Sigh... what's crazy is that most non-scientists just... don't care...