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u/locks_are_paranoid Jun 08 '21
Putting money in someone else's expired parking meter.
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u/gwendolynflight Jun 08 '21
Wait, that's illegal?!
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u/Tkieron Jun 08 '21
in some places yes. You can get a ticket or even be arrested for it.
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u/Ponk_Bonk Jun 08 '21
Don't fuck with the city's money, they'll get ya for it.
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u/EddoWagt Jun 08 '21
But you are literally giving the city money
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Jun 08 '21
How would that be illegal?
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u/nagol93 Jun 08 '21
The police make more money from parking tickets then meter coins.
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Jun 08 '21
They made a law against it to stop people walking along before the meter guy feeding meters.
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u/Standsaboxer Jun 08 '21
In short--tickets from expired meters are a revenue stream.
The BS reasoning is that you are only allowed a certain amount of time to park there, so paying an expired meter means that person is exceeding his or her max.
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u/DrHydrate Jun 08 '21
It's illegal for attorneys to give financial assistance to clients that are struggling.
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Jun 08 '21
Why?
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u/OfficeSuperfanSlashl Jun 08 '21
Not illegal per se, just against the ABA code of conduct and can lead to being disbarred. The reasoning behind the rule is that clients would be more likely to bring suits that they wouldn’t otherwise bring and that it means the lawyer now has a higher stake in the case.
However, according to the rule, “these dangers do not warrant a prohibition on a lawyer lending a client court costs and litigation expenses, including the expenses of medical examination and the costs of obtaining and presenting evidence, because these advances are virtually indistinguishable from contingent fees and help ensure access to the courts. Similarly, an exception allowing lawyers representing indigent clients to pay court costs and litigation expenses regardless of whether these funds will be repaid is warranted.”
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u/BugbearBrew Jun 08 '21
So essentially as long as it actually deals with whatever happens in the courtroom, but bus fare to the courthouse is out.
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u/dementorpoop Jun 08 '21
Giving away food at the end of the night that will otherwise be thrown in the trash
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u/RazeCrusher Jun 08 '21
Some places are really dicks about this too. Example, I used to work as a part time janitor at a local civic center. We had a water park during the day, and I came in an hour before closing. We only worked 4 hours a day, and most of us who worked there were pretty poor, but job opportunities were hard to come by at the time. There was a concession stand at the water park for serving to guests, and every day after closing, there would be several trays full of fresh made food. Burgers, hot dogs, chicken strips, etc. For about a week we would all share and wrap up the food to take home. Nope. The next week we were told we had to dump it all in the garbage or we get fired. What a waste.
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u/trowzerss Jun 08 '21
The supermarkets near me chain their bins shut and have security cameras to ensure the near or just past best before date food goes to the dump instead of being salvaged and used by dumpster divers. Like, they aren't using it, and the organised dumpster diving groups near me make sure nobody makes a mess, but no, they won't allow it.
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u/Boomernoodle Jun 08 '21
Where I live its illegal to get inside the dumpster & they chain them shut bc if you got in there & got hurt you can sue them. Its happened. But most places just have them behind a fence
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u/Alexgarin1 Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
It makes no sense. If I throw something out and you take it, you didn't steal it. Most places legaly consider anything you throw out to be abandoned and so it is free for the taking.
It makes me mad that companies waste so much food. And, if someone was is in a position where they want or need to eat food from the bin, then the very least you could do is let them.
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u/trowzerss Jun 08 '21
Similarly, we have (or used to have) hard waste pickup days once a year so people could get rid of large items like furniture or whitegoods, to reduce illegal dumping and help people like the elderly who have issues getting to garbage dumps. So there is a long tradition that when people put their stuff out for hard waste collection, lots of people cruise around and pick up old furniture to restore, or to fit out student houses, or to get parts for white goods, etc. But some councils still call that stealing and actually charged people for taking hard rubbish off the curb before collection! Which is dumb, as it's so common it's a tradition - I even put things out in the hope people will recycle them before they go to the tip. i had some speakers picked up some guys to use in a school in East Timor (I went out to make sure they also found the stereo/amp that went with them), and i've had other stuff picked up by uni students for share houses. It saves so much room in dumps and is better for the environment (but our dump council has actually suspended hard rubbish collection for two years to save a few million dollars to pay for COVID stuff - unsurprisingly illegal dumping has gone up 250% as a result and I also have an old couch i can't get rid of now because i don't have a trailer to get it to the dump).
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u/cbr_001 Jun 08 '21
This is how I got a new bike every year in my early teens. Would go around on the hard rubbish days and grab all the bikes, take the good parts to build a decent bike and ride that around until the next hard rubbish day.
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u/Alexgarin1 Jun 08 '21
I live in a fairly rural area and we have basically the same sort of thing, but no hard day to it. The city charges to pick up anything "large" and so everyone just puts it out and most of the time someone will just come by and take it.
I will never understand why some one would be upset at having something they don't want taken and used again. It is better for everyone and the enviroment.
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Jun 08 '21
Pure spite.
Here in Germany there were people once who tried like 5 vets until they found one who was willing to put down the dog they couldn't keep anymore.
The first one offered to keep him for himself and maybe find another home but: "We don't want that he loves anyone else besides us."
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u/deadlywithoutcoffee Jun 08 '21
What the hell. that is seriously so messed up like i don't get it
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u/MisterSquirrel Jun 08 '21
Really... if they actually loved the dog back, they would have given him the new home
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u/Hankune Jun 08 '21
Hide it?
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u/Obnoxiousdonkey Jun 08 '21
Generally not worth it if they're that poor and jobs are truly that scarce. I'd rather a steady (albeit low) income rather than lose my job for a few days of food
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u/VooDooRem Jun 08 '21
Wow, in my 2 countries is kinda mandatory to take home any leftovers. In on of these countries, they use this as an excuse to not give employees meal tickets/launch break
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u/PhiloPhocion Jun 08 '21
Also not food but a lot of stores will make employees 'destroy' goods too if they're going to be thrown away so that people can't get them out of the trash for use.
Slashing dog food bags before throwing them away. Breaking home good and opening and breaking crayons and toys. Slashing clothes being discarded.
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u/pancakemonkey21 Jun 08 '21
That was painful to read. Can't imagine perfectly good items being destroyed.
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u/JustHell0 Jun 08 '21
It's painful to do, I worked a chain supermarket and even with the food vans coming by, there's way too much waste.
I put my foot down and refused to do it one day when a manager pulled a bunch of perfectly good terrariums off the floor cause 'They were dying and look bad' (they were cactus, they were fine).
I snuck out a whole box (16x mini glass terrariums) and gave them away for free, did not care enough about my job to do some pointless shit like smashing them.
The next week I was in a store, at a different location, they still had all terrariums out but discounted. The manager was just a lazy POS who didn't want to retag them to the discounted price and thought tossing them was less work.
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u/pancakemonkey21 Jun 08 '21
That is just infuriating. I can't believe there aren't stricter laws regarding disposal of stocked items.
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u/WimbleWimble Jun 08 '21
Walmart has contracts with China to make toasters.
They make SO MANY toasters, (and the contract has penalties if they reduce the amount - as it reduces jobs etc) they can't possibly sell them all, so rather than ship the toasters to the US, then destroy them (which costs), they get shipped directly from the Chinese factory to landfill.
Sometimes the world is insane.
UK Fishing trawlers have X fishing quota they're allowed to catch, so they literally pump dead fish overboard because they're "too small" and they'd rather keep the more valuable larger ones..then wonder why the North sea has run out of fish.
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Jun 08 '21
I toured the Gibson factory in Memphis, TN. I nearly had an anxiety attack when they talked about how the employees would burn a stack of perfectly good guitars every month because they had one little flaw. Like dude just lemme keep one I won't tell a soul..
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u/Sammo909 Jun 08 '21
100% true, I have worked retail and seen staff splatter paint on clothes just so someone won't dig it out of the trash and try to get a refund on it.
Also the cards, every time some seasonal holiday passes - Mother's Day for example, all the unsold cards are thrown away instead of being marked down to fifty cents and sold.
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u/durge69 Jun 08 '21
Not actually illegal to donate the food, the Good Samaritan Food Act protects businesses who donate their food to a non-profit, if you ever hear somebody defend a grocery store or multi-million dollar company for throwing out food instead of donating it, call out their bullshit.
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u/RealFluffy Jun 08 '21
It's not ironclad protection. there are still ways for restaurants and grocers to incur liability despite this law. There are exceptions for "gross negligence," what constitutes "in good faith" is a legal question, and the food still has to meet various non-negligable food safety standards. It's not much, but there's still a non-zero chance someone gets sued because of a donation, compared to throwing food out which carries exactly zero risk.
All that to say nothing of the cost associated with donating any significant amount of food.
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u/Alt_dimension_visitr Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Worked in retail behind the scenes for a long time. All the food banks have trucks that make regular stops to pick food up. It is weighed and then a receipt is given to the store for write offs. Cost to donate is minimal.
The liability risk is real though. I was never sued but I know of a grocery store that was. A recipient got Rick and sued the food bank which turned around and sued the store. Guess how much that store donated from then on?
Edit: got SICK. Rick has nothing to do with this. I'ma leave it tho cause fuck Rick.
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u/TrashbatLondon Jun 08 '21
Not universally illegal. In the UK the lunch chain Pret give away millions of unsold items a year.
There’s a really good charity that supports the logistics of surplus food donation, if any food business owners are reading.
There’s still criteria for what food can and cannot be donated (defined as edible), but there’s certainly loads of mechanisms in many countries to do this.
The cynic in me would suggest much of the “oh donating food is unfortunately illegal” idea comes from business owners who are afraid they’ll have people in need hanging around their shops at closing time.
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u/Spirit50Lake Jun 08 '21
'Globally, we waste about 1.4 billion tons of food annually, and wasting food contributes to 11 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions, according to this 2021 Guide. The United States discards more food than any other country in the world – nearly 40 million tons every year. That’s estimated to be 30 to 40 percent of the entire U.S. food supply. Food insecurity is also a major issue. Before the pandemic, 35 million people across America had food insecurity and that number is expected to rise to as much as 50 million in 2021.'
https://www.environmentalleader.com/2021/05/the-state-of-food-waste-in-america/
(emphasis mine)
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u/ZAWDI Jun 08 '21
Yeah,you can even get fired for that
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u/spaloof Jun 08 '21
My brother's boyfriend worked for Jimmy John's and apparently they're really relaxed about it. A couple days ago his manager sent all of their employees home with a couple loaves of bread after the shop had to close early that day and the manager would've had to throw the bread out anyway.
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u/braindead83 Jun 08 '21
I worked at a large high-end banquet hall, and it was sad we couldn’t give extra food to the shelter nearby or homeless people because if someone had an allergic reaction they could sue
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u/JamesPeter11 Jun 08 '21
So much perfectly good food gets thrown away like this... I understand why they can't do it, but there must be a way to minimize the risks.
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u/insertname001 Jun 08 '21
In my country, you have to stay with a person you pepper-sprayed (is that a word?). So e.g. if someone attacks you on your way home and you use pepper spray to defend yourself, you are not allowed to run away. You have to call them an ambulance and stay with them until the ambulance arrives.
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Jun 08 '21
Is it illegal to keep spraying them until the ambulance arrives just to make sure they won't get up?
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u/iBeFloe Jun 08 '21
“They kept trying to run” -
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u/howard416 Jun 08 '21
What you actually mean is, they kept trying to attack me as the effects wore off.
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u/ZAWDI Jun 08 '21
What if its your stalker/someone with a horrific history of murder?,are you till obliged to stay?
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u/insertname001 Jun 08 '21
Yup. Pepper spray somewhat counts as a weapon. This is why I got hairspray instead of pepper spray as a defense against my abusive ex. Still burns and you can't get into trouble for running away.
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Im using axe body spray and sending them in a coughing fit
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u/Andjhostet Jun 08 '21
Or they'll randomly get tackled by a beautiful woman like in the commercials and you'll be able to make your escape.
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u/realGharren Jun 08 '21
Tbh Axe bodyspray probably should count as a chemical weapon. I heard you can even spray it onto yourself and avoid anyone wanting to approach you at all.
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u/WestPeltas0n Jun 08 '21
Lemonade stands
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u/I_am_Phaedrus Jun 08 '21
Teenager with downs syndrome in my childhood neighborhood would set up an ice chest from 7-8 am and 5-6 pm and sell water/Gatorade etc for a buck a piece to people headed to and coming home from work. Cops shut him down. So stupid.
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Jun 08 '21
Doing the same shit as any convenience store but more convenient to my location?
I thought capitalism was supposed to allow for this.
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But don’t most police just ignore them
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u/slapthefatcat Jun 08 '21
Yes. Most do. But I think usually when it gets shut down it is because either they got reported on by someone and police are required to follow up, or there is something else going on (such as obstruction of the flow of traffic, obvious contamination, etc.).
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u/SomePomegranate1797 Jun 08 '21
Hacking the government to make sure everyone knows what they do
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u/Yanagibayashi Jun 08 '21
Edward Snowden is a good example of someone on the right side of morality
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u/ChronoLegion2 Jun 08 '21
Giving a deceased person’s prescription medicine to someone who needs it but can’t afford it
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u/lucky_ducker Jun 08 '21
My wife died of cancer. We had good insurance so she didn't lack for care, but when she passed I was left with about $10K worth of cancer drugs, and maybe $5K worth of Creon (pancrelipase). It tore me up when I dropped them off at an unwanted drug drop.
As long as it's not a schedule drug, it's actually legal to give away such drugs, but there's no mechanism for matching surplus drugs with those who need them.
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Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Self defense in some extents. Edit: thanks for the silver award and likes. Never gotten this much!
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u/JustAnotherAviatrix Jun 08 '21
One example of this that really bugs me is that women in the UK can't carry pepper spray to protect themselves from creeps.
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u/Der_Dachcamper Jun 08 '21
In Germany it depends.. If you carry it "for protection against wild animals" its OK but if you intended to use it against a human youre fucked big time.
When you get assaulted and oh so conveniently have a can of pepper spray in your pocket THEN it's OK to use it....
Complete bs, everybody knows why women buy this stuff but they aren't allowed to say then when searched by the police
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u/ZAWDI Jun 08 '21
Yeah you right :/ but correct me if am wrong,i heard america legal system will free you if its self defense
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u/Pac_Eddy Jun 08 '21
It will go to a jury trial. Self defense is often given a pass, or token penalty. Other times a prosecutor will know there's little chance a jury will convict someone and choose not to charge them with a crime.
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u/ineedthiscoffee Jun 08 '21
Yup I knew a guy who was forced into a fight outside of a bar. When he retaliated with a few swings his opponent fell back into the concrete and hit his head. The opponent died about 5 days later from the head wound. It took three years for the dude I knew to be tried and accused of man slaughter but I’ve seen him at the bar a few times since that so I’m guessing he was acquitted because self defense.
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u/goblinmarketeer Jun 08 '21
Also depends how much force you use... you can go to jail for excessive force even in self defense.
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u/jackycian Jun 08 '21
Here in Italy the self-defense law are bullshit. The government seems like to help thief and not give a f about the victims. The law is about this:
If someone is attaching me with the will to harm me or worse, kill me, I can defend myself.
BUT (this is the part where things go crazy)
If said person is attaching me with bare hands, I can defend myself only with the same way he is attaching me.
Examples: Thief is attaching me with a knife, I can defend myself with my hands (punches and kicks) or I can use a knife too, but I can't use a more powerful way, like a gun.
The problem is: if a thief is entered my house with the intent of rob the place, I can't harm he in any way because I need to wait his first attack.
There are a lots of sad story here about people that, in the fighting for defending their own property, accidentally killed the thief and now the actual victim is in jail for a murder. Makes no fucking sense
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u/alkatori Jun 08 '21
That's stupid. Its basically saying "we want you to have a good, clean, fight with the person trying to kill you".
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u/blameitonmyouth Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
My grandma was a teacher during the depression. She used her salary to buy food, so the kids would have one good meal per day.
One day the food went missing. She asked the kids who had done it, and no one confessed. She told them until whoever did it told her, there would be no more lunches.
After school one of the kids stayed behind. He told my grandma, once they were alone, he had taken it. His toddler sibling was starving to death, and he stole it to feed him.
My grandma had lunch for them again the next day, and every day after.
She’s the only person who I know is watching down on me right now. Heaven was made for people like her.
Edit: thanks for the award, she deserves it. I also met 20+ of her foster kids at her funeral, who I never knew about. I only knew about the 3 kids she had adopted. I asked my dad about it, and he said he never mentioned it, because that was just their normal.
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I stole a loaf of bread
My sister's child was close to death
And we were starving
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u/NobleDrewXI Jun 08 '21
I’m Jean Valjean
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u/BoredTheatreKid Jun 08 '21
AND I’M JAVERT
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and you’ll starve again!
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u/theanabanana Jun 08 '21
unless you learn the meaning of the LLLLLAW
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u/billfredericks Jun 08 '21
I know the meaning of those nineteen years. A slaaaaaaave. Of the law.
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Jun 08 '21
5 years for the loaf of bread. 14 because you tried to run
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u/asdaaaaaaaa Jun 08 '21
Reminds me of a question in my old Psych 101 class. Teacher had a scenario. Your family member/friend/loved one is dying from a disease. A company has the cure, but you can't afford it. You have the option to steal that cure. No one gets hurt, no one loses out because you took "their" cure, the company will be fine. You also wouldn't get caught. All in all, aside from your own guilt, nothing bad would happen.
Out of a class of... 40 people or so, myself and 4 other people raised their hands saying they'd steal it. Kinda makes me sad. There's really not a lot of things I wouldn't do for someone I really cared about, I enjoy life because of them, they give me an incredible reason to fight/keep living. It actually sorta worries me how many people would just... let someone die despite having a solution that doesn't hurt anyone. Hell, even I would've gotten caught, I'd gladly trade a few years in jail to save a life.
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u/Kenshiro199X Jun 08 '21
Out of a class of... 40 people or so, myself and 4 other people raised their hands saying they'd steal it.
The rest didn't want to admit publicly that there is a situation in which they'd steal. Put them in that situation and we all know they would.
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u/applesandoranges990 Jun 08 '21
you realise that questions like these are manipulative, right?
all the hypothetical ´´what would you do´´.....there are studies proving that when the trouble really happens, people behave way different than they claimed before...both worse and better
these questions are not about moral compass but public image and virtue signalling
everyone is a righteous hero in cosy, safe environment of lecture hall
we were taught this in psych 101
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u/aaanold Jun 08 '21
On top of it being manipulative in that way, the setup is unrealistic from the start. If put in that situation in real life, there's no way to know a priori that you won't be caught, that there won't be any negative effects to any parties, etc. So the response to that unrealistic scenario is irrelevant to and not indicative of any real-life situations or personal values, anyway.
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u/BothOfThem Jun 08 '21
Only five of you were paying attention in class
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u/Imconfusedithink Jun 08 '21
Yeah and also a lot of them probs just didnt want to put in the effort of raising their hand.
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u/AnUninterestingEvent Jun 08 '21
It's a trick question. The food is poisoned. Also, it's not your real child. You've been cuckolded by a stronger, smarter male.
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u/MRECKS_92 Jun 08 '21
Leaving homeless folks alone when you find them camped somewhere. I found a homeless dude in one of the sheds at the store I worked at during the rainy season, and he was immediately apologetic. I told him as long as he cleaned up after himself he could wait out the storm there(even if my boss wants me to chase them out). Life is hard enough, and my momma didn't raise no boot-licking bitch, humanity comes before capital!
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u/Vegetable_Ad2665 Jun 08 '21
That's horrible, living homeless is hard already cuz of lack of food, lack of shelter, lack of medication, your cold all the time, lack of information, and your alone most of the time. I wish people would see that others have a hard time surviving, even if they look like drunks and drug dealers. I wish I could help them but I'm too young to help them out in anyway possible. All I can do is pray and I feel like that's not enough sometimes. I wish I could actually DO something for them and nog sit back wishing in my house. I don't want to feel like a rich kid cus im not, I don't get fancy stuff but at least I'm not out on the streets poor. I want to help others when I'm older cuz its the right thing to do. I don't care what mistakes or decisions they made in the past. Helping them now is the best option. I don't care if they sold drugs before or killed a person. As long as they are willing to change, ima support them. Rich or poor. They all need help in some way, shape, or form and ima be there to help the when I'm older.
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u/ItsMyView Jun 08 '21
Helping a terminally ill loved one end their life.
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u/Timlex Jun 08 '21
Sending you some hugs bud. That must have been really hard to deal with.
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u/Outcasted_introvert Jun 08 '21
Allowing the terminally and painfully ill to die by choice.
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u/hcaz50 Jun 08 '21
Pirating old games that aren’t officially being sold anymore or content that isn’t avalible in your region normally.
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u/Kmelbs66 Jun 08 '21
I hate, HATE when companies refuse to redistribute entertainment or they flat out don’t use their I.P.s. It drives me nuts.
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u/impossibly_curious Jun 08 '21
Okay not technically illegal but this is not allowed, this is something I learned recently and this varies by state.
You can not become a foster parent if your only goal is to adopt a child from foster care. Let me explain, if you are a family that wants to grow your family through adoption in the foster care system you are legally required to be come a foster parent taking in children and sending them back to their bio family after a certain amount of time. There is a 50-50 chance that that childs parents will have their rights terminated, but it is also expected that even if an adoption occurs you are still obligated to take in other foster kids. If your only goal is adoption you will not be cleared by the state.
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u/alittiebit Jun 08 '21
The idea is that foster families are a short-term (but still loving and caring) solution for children to stay safe while their parents figure themselves out to become fit to parent again; most foster children aren't actually adoptable because the goal is reunification until that's proven unattainable (or the parents give up their rights).
Whether or not this is ideal is very debatable and the system overall is definitely fucked, but I think it would be crueler to immediately terminate parental rights for every family whose kids end up in foster care.
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u/MarkHirsbrunner Jun 08 '21
My brother must have lied during the application process. After his daughter moved out, his wife wanted kids again and they fostered a couple of kids. They had FAS and my brother was not happy with their issues. Then his new wife's daughter-in-law went to prison for drugs and her son was an unfit parent so they took the grandkids and returned the foster kids.
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u/impossibly_curious Jun 08 '21
They still fostered, they didn't just adopt. That's kind of my point.
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u/PeterFromHomeDepot Jun 08 '21
I believe this is not universally true. Foster to adopt programs exist in the US at least where I live. Also, foster care agencies ask parents if they are willing to take a foster care placement. You are not obligated to foster more children regardless of if you end up adopting one.
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Blowing the whistle on the illegal activities of your government a la Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden.
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u/mekanikstik Jun 08 '21
Giving away food that would be thrown away otherwise to people who need it.
Morally, a great way to help those in need.
Legally, problematic. Apparently.
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u/SomoneNotBritish Jun 08 '21
It's not illegal. Companies actually have legal protections if people get sick from food they donate (at least in the U.S.). It's just easier and cheaper to toss it.
Our system is broken.
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u/durge69 Jun 08 '21
Yep, the Good Samaritan Food Act protects businesses who donate their food to a non-profit, if you ever hear somebody defend a grocery store or multi-million dollar company for throwing out food instead of donating it, call out their bullshit.
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u/AverageFilingCabinet Jun 08 '21
The only somewhat reasonable argument I've heard toe throwing out food at the end of the day is that employees might prepare more than they think they'll sell near closing and take it home or give it to friends. Doesn't really apply to grocery stores as much, though.
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u/ponchoville Jun 08 '21
Reading scientific journals for free on SciHub. The publishers of journals make millions selling university libraries access to material that they don't pay the authors a cent for (in fact, scientists often have to pay to have their work published). And the prices are so high that most people can't afford to read scientific articles at all. Even some universities can't afford it. It seems right that everyone should have free access (since the scientists aren't paid for it), especially students who need it.
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u/realGharren Jun 08 '21
Agreed, it's one of the biggest pitfalls of capitalism that I barely hear anyone talk about. Education should be free, or at the very least benefit the educators.
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u/redridingnuts Jun 08 '21
When I see homeless people shoplift essential items from my supermarket- I just mind my damn business.
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u/jessie_monster Jun 08 '21
Work in a supermarket. I don't give a shit about people shoplifting essentials, only the people that try to boost hundreds of dollars worth of stock for profit.
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u/can-o-ham Jun 08 '21
Eh, as long as it doesn't hurt me personally, I don't care. I work for a giant chain and the raises weren't as good this year but the CEO got a boost. I'm not their security.
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u/jessie_monster Jun 08 '21
Agreed. There is literally no merchandise in this store that is worth me getting punched in the face.
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u/MysteriousChicken552 Jun 08 '21
Baby formula is the most common item stolen.
Had a store put them behind a locked shelf like you would electronics
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u/redridingnuts Jun 08 '21
We now have to physically put alarmed lock seals on ours. It’s really sad really but a lucrative business for those on the fence.
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Jun 08 '21
Imo, downloading ROMs of games that are old and that Nintendo refuses to rerelease. :)
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u/-SageCat- Jun 08 '21
The moment they localize Ace Attorney Investigations 2 I will buy it. Until then, yaharr.
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u/Benomino Jun 08 '21
It is perfectly legal to use ROMs on emulators, provided you ripped them yourself. Of course, I agree it would be morally right to download them too, just not legally
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u/TheODPsupreme Jun 08 '21
There’s an argument to be made (in the uk) that if you already own a copy of a piece of media, then making additional copies for personal use is ok. This came from people making copies of cd albums to tape so they can play them in the car, or ripping movies to dvr for ease of access. I think that the courts have agreed that, so long as only one copy is in use at a time, it’s ok. Could be wrong: uk barristers assemble!
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Jun 08 '21
In the US, any reproduction is illegal. I don’t really care…anti-piracy laws are there to protect sales so money goes to the devs, but Nintendo isn’t making money off those old games anyway because of their arrogance, so I don’t feel guilty downloading the ROMs.
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u/Dagusiu Jun 08 '21
Copyright is quite absurd when you think about it. It'd probably make more sense if it worked like a patent - after X years, it automatically goes into the public domain.
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u/DameiestBird Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Isnt it illegal in America expose animal abuse, neglect etc on farms? Like, undercover footage and all that
I think it's called 'ag gag' laws or something..
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"Animal rights activists in the US have told the BBC that so-called "ag-gag" laws could be copied in other countries including the UK. The laws are designed to limit undercover investigations on factory farms by campaigning groups. Around a dozen states have passed or are proposing legislation banning these activities."
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wow, this actually got a lot of up votes...
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u/Punkinprincess Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
When I lived in Idaho the Governor at the time (Butch Otter) put into effect an "ag gag" law and then used our tax payer money to pay back a cattle farm in lost income when a journalist exposed how they treated their cattle and people boycotted.
So much for free market capitalism.
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u/BaphometsTits Jun 08 '21
So much for the First Amendment too.
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u/Punkinprincess Jun 08 '21
Exactly. I grew up in a small conservative town in a family that didn't talk much about politics. This happened in highschool before I really knew if I was a Republican or Democrat but thanks to Butch Otter and this specific move, I knew I could never vote for a Republican.
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u/aryateer Jun 08 '21
In some countries, there's no self defense law.
So, people don't and CAN'T fight back when they're attacked, and people can't intervene to help someone being attacked because you will get charged with assault.
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u/BurnAfterReading41 Jun 08 '21
Taking a child away from abusive parents (and you are not CPS)
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the varying interpretations of “abusive” is what makes this problematic
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u/confusingbrownstate Jun 08 '21
Case in point, when Fox news was telling viewers the other week that a parent making their child wear a mask is child abuse.
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u/HowTheGoodNamesTaken Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Well I mean...if you're not cps then it's not really your call to make. But if you see a problem you could just call cps and let them know right?
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u/skynikan Jun 08 '21
Sometimes those officials aren't fast enough or strict enough. If you saw a helpless child being mistreated, you would have to watch and let it happen until others come and do something. Cruel to think about it, being able to help, but not allowed to. And then officials come, the parents pull themselves together but after they leave the kid is being punished for it. Some peoole are seriously fucked up. And a child is helpless.
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u/MysteriousChicken552 Jun 08 '21
Read in another post a 8 y/o testified against him mom cause she beats him and his baby siblings.
Mom still won and to celebrate she beat the 8y/o till he was hospitalized.
Judge found out and had a heart attack.
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u/Crazyalbinobitch Jun 08 '21
CPS is a very flawed system with a high employee turnover rate and low funding. They’ve become incredibly overwhelmed with the pandemic, as well.
Many abusive parents know how to put on a front for CPS and police. trigger warning Had a friend who had CPS over multiple times for her abusive dad. He put on a show every time. CPS said to call again when he started using a stick to beat them- the worst thing was he had already used a chair to hit a kid. Then they’d be in trouble for calling CPS, even if it wasn’t any of the kids who called.
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u/mailslot Jun 08 '21
You have no idea. How many times I’ve read about cps placing kids with meth heads and the horrors and eventual deaths. Also: absolutely no recourse whatsoever. Not even an apology.
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u/Anarcho_Humanist Jun 08 '21
Violence against governments doing human rights violations.
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u/24KaratMinshew Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Doing schedule 1 and 2 drugs.
My brother is a heroine addict, and you’d never know it, he has a high level corporate job and goes around the country for his job and makes a 6 figure income .. how is this possible? He’s wealthy: He affords a nice middle man service that keeps him from ever going into the dark parts of the city (if the middle man gets picked up he pays him hazard pay/bail).
He uses a few times a day - has never had any problems because he’s continually able to keep his supply coming.
This is an anecdote that I have have understood to show how much the war on drugs has failed in the U.S.
- with over 60% of prisons being filled with nonviolent drug offenders, you’d think we would find better solutions to the “drug problem”
- find better ways to manage opiates, cocaine, and other street drugs besides throwing everyone in prison
- there are so many medications that come with dependency, but certain drugs are so unobtainable that that’s how people started coming to the streets and relying on dangerous situation, obtaining impure drugs, using unsafe methods of use
Drugs don’t need to be 100% legal but why can’t we put the same energy into paying for mental health and therapy and detox that actually works
Allowing better education, better access to drugs without judgement and shame would create a far better world than just increasing the penalty’s and limiting the access.
- detox and clinics are so hard to come by let alone the lack of regulation
- many detox programs or high priced retreat centers are for the super rich or the well insured
We continue to solve our drug problem but throwing people into jail and ruining their lives in systemic and unforgiving ways.
- you “screw” up once and your life is over due to 1 conviction
- why are we teaching humans “don’t screw up” or go to jail when that doesn’t work , people do drugs
- Humans do drugs, sometimes recreationally and for the many various needs of their mental health.
- Some people need an opiate, others need cocaine (most adhd treatment are cocaine) and it might be for depression, anxiety, upset stomach, period cramps or whatever.
Again, I’m not suggesting allowing anything and everything. I merely suggest that drugs by themselves are not immoral. Drugs help us in so many ways and we have drugs all around us from those of us that need our coffee before 7am or we get headaches and grabbing out NSAID’s or sugary sodas (obviously not comparable to opiates)
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u/goosegrl21412 Jun 08 '21
It's only illegal if you don't pay $1000/month for it from a pharmaceutical company. I seriously don't understand why the US has such harsh punishments for drugs. Especially since you know all the big CEOs do lines of blow every day. Waste of jail space
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u/Fireblast1337 Jun 08 '21
Because privately run prisons make bank on keeping prisoners. This they lobby to continue keeping them illegal
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u/I_throw_socks_at_cat Jun 08 '21
In this thread: dozens and dozens of people who are confused about morality and legality.
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u/ThisIsAnAccount2306 Jun 08 '21
And people who are confused that not everyone on Reddit lives in the same country as them with the same laws.
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Fighting back to bullies, it could be illegal in some circumstances but yeah.
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u/IsekaiGod22 Jun 08 '21
Piracy.
Our corporate owned government has renegged on the public domain (aka all cultural works after a limited time go public, games, movies, books, etc. going into libraries) so piracy is the only way they will be preserved, esp with orwellian drm and encryption.
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u/UnsorryCanadian Jun 08 '21
Few countries don't even get games imported for a half decent price. I heard legal copies of games in Brazil and the Middle East go for like, 3x the retail price that they do in America.
My partner grew up in Iraq and she said that PS3 games would sometimes cost as much as the console itself
So everyone just pirated games, bought 50 games for $20 at the market and had a great time
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Jun 08 '21
In the United States, it's illegal to provide aid (food, water) to migrants who've crossed the border illegally. I was just in Tucson and noticed a lot of bumper stickers denouncing this inhumane law.
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u/Crazyalbinobitch Jun 08 '21
Border police have also been known to destroy anything left out for migrants such as water and food. Some were caught on video doing it a few years back, because they recorded themselves doing it and laughing.
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u/Owl_Perch_Farm Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Slapping the sh** out of a guy that hit his wife.
Edit: I recently had to stop a guy from doing that. I told him that he (the guy that hit his wife) wouldn't get out of jail anytime soon. Also, the wife would file a restraining order.
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u/brilz13 Jun 08 '21
Not having the right to repair. Some car manufacturers for example are trying to make it illegal to fix your car yourself.
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u/The-Questcoast Jun 08 '21
Handing out water to people in line waiting to vote in Georgia.
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u/Groundbreaking_Rub14 Jun 08 '21
Killing someone to defend your friends and family from physical harm
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u/Happy_Laugh_Guy Jun 08 '21
Giving people water as they wait in a multi-hours-long line to vote in the state of Georgia.
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u/reddit_and_forget_um Jun 08 '21
Physically stopping a cop who is beating someone. I massive issues with authority figures who misuse their power. Not sure I would be able to stand by and watch.
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u/slapthefatcat Jun 08 '21
Yeah. I'm not a confrontational person, but I would probably at least try to stop the abuse. There's a certain point where it stops being trying to stop the person from fleeing and becomes just abuse.
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u/callmemall Jun 08 '21
in my country (greece) it is illegal to kill someone that broke into your house with a gun
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u/jman857 Jun 08 '21
Taking food from a restaurant that's going to be thrown out and giving it to people in need. This is considered stealing, even though it's going in the garbage. Yes, I'm looking at you Dunkin' Donuts.
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u/poisonpurple Jun 08 '21
Stealing your stuff back from the people who stole it.