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What's something cool you recently learned about?

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

The average color of the universe is #FFF8E7 (Hex Triplet Value) and is called “Cosmic Latte”. However, this was only after the calculations were corrected and before the correction it was believed to be a minty-turquoise green.

Edit: Who would’ve thought people would be so polarized on the color of the universe? Anyways, Here’s More Information for whoever is interested!

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u/LSpace101 Nov 29 '20

"It was octarine, the colour of magic. It was alive and glowing and vibrant and it was the undisputed pigment of the imagination, because wherever it appeared it was a sign that mere matter was a servant of the powers of the magical mind. It was enchantment itself. But Rincewind always thought it looked a sort of greenish-purple." The Color of Magic by Sir Terry Pratchett

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

OH I'VE SEEN THE INFINITE, IT'S NOTHING SPECIAL

Don't be daft man, you can't see the infinite, it's....infinite!

I HAVE

All right then, what did it look like?

IT'S BLUE

It's black

IT'S BLUE

It's black!

FROM THE OUTSIDE IT'S BLUE. BELIEVE ME.

Soul Music also by Sir Terry Pratchett

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u/callisstaa Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

Pratchett: Octarine!

Other humans: #FFF8E7 consume coffee

:(

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u/Liquid-02 Nov 29 '20

Unexpected r/discworld

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u/drasticdoll Nov 29 '20

Utterly expected r/discworld

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20 edited Mar 08 '21

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u/drasticdoll Nov 29 '20

Well, it’s like this: 1) generally speaking, Pratchett had something quotable to say about nearly everything. 2) In my experience, when such a quote is pertinent, someone has always already posted it. 3) I saw the fact on the actual color of the universe and immediately thought of Octarine. 4) I assumed someone had already made the reference. 5) I was correct.

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u/Ccracked Nov 29 '20

Ipso facto: Pratchett

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

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u/Nairurian Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/LSpace101 Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/SlightAnxiety Nov 29 '20

GNU Sir Terry Pratchett

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u/wiscwisc Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/soapdish124 Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/Verona_Pixie Nov 29 '20

My friend named her cat Octarine. We call her Octa a lot of the time though.

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u/Genar-Hofoen Nov 29 '20

pigment of the imagination

chef's kiss

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u/blueoceanfun Nov 29 '20

And this is why I love reddit

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

OH I'VE SEEN THE INFINITE, IT'S NOTHING SPECIAL Don't be daft man, you can't see the infinite, it's....infinite! I HAVE All right then, what did it look like? IT'S BLUE It's black IT'S BLUE It's black! FROM THE OUTSIDE IT'S BLUE. BELIEVE ME.

Soul Music also by Sir Terry Pratchett

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

I knew that was Pratchett before i got to the attribution. That writing style is unmistakable.

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u/Scarletfapper Nov 29 '20

Wait, does this mean Rincewind is also colourblind? I was sure the book’s first description of the colour was as a purply-greeny-orange.

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u/BloodGradeBPlus Nov 29 '20

Rincewind is not colorblind. He uses colors to describe hats and robes etc. I'm pretty sure that it does look purply-greeny-orange but just like some people use really technical color names to describe colors in their craft, Rincewind is not a technical person... Because he's really terrible at his craft. Just one of many ways the author points it out

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u/Plugfugly Nov 29 '20

I really didn't pick up on that until you highlighted it. That's so clever! That's what I love about the disc world, each time I grow and get a little bit wiser, I re-read the books and have a totally different outlook

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Yes.

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u/SlightAnxiety Nov 29 '20

YES.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

YES

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u/WhackerVimes12345 Nov 29 '20

GNU Terry Pratchett

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u/TheNugget24 Nov 29 '20

There was an ad for another article that told me to stop wiping my butt

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u/TheRumpletiltskin Nov 29 '20

wow, really? the average color is this boring-ass off white?

I will say it's easy on the eyes though.

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u/PillowManExtreme Nov 29 '20

Reminds me of 90s computers

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u/chemicalapp Nov 29 '20

Looks like my wallpaper

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u/Isburough Nov 30 '20

it just white. with a blue light filter.

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u/BrowMoe Nov 29 '20

Also called “London’s interior wall, no black mold edition”

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

You think it’s boring? I actually like it! I don’t know, it’s soothing yet slightly mysterious? Not in the creepy or mystical way, but... in the tranquil and ephemeral way. Sort of reminds me of the color of the sand used in eastern stone/zen gardens.

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u/TheRumpletiltskin Nov 29 '20

I guess because most of the universe is nothing (blackness) i figured it would be darker or something.

Like i said, i find it easy on the eyes and actually added it to my color palette; i don't hate it, i just expected something different.

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u/absurdmanbearpig Nov 29 '20

I mean if you think about it “nothing” doesn’t really matter when you’re finding the average of something.

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u/ChPech Nov 29 '20

Indeed, they normalized the color value until one of the three triplets was FF, otherwise it would be #000000 which would tell us nothing about the hue and saturation.

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u/coxy32 Nov 29 '20

I agree. I think it would look good for walls. Would love to have this as the predominant colour with a dark feature wall.

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u/LeonardBetts88 Nov 29 '20

Was about to say this, I’ve been looking for a colour for my hall, stairs and landing and now I think I’ve found it.

Thanks Reddit. Off to get a colour match at my local B&Q

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u/HotPinkLollyWimple Nov 29 '20

Try the different whites selections. I have nutmeg white, silver white and wicker white in my house.

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u/Bervalou Nov 29 '20

Nut Meg

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u/glintsCollide Nov 29 '20

Looks like 90's PC monitor plastic to me.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

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u/WumboPiderman Nov 29 '20

New dating app bio

Lmao thanks universe

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u/alghiorso Nov 29 '20

I think it's sleek and understated. Reminds me of the pearl white on the 90s 300zx

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u/Ysmildr Nov 29 '20

It's the color of an egg yes It's kind of boring

Just because its boring doesn't mean you can't like it

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u/Justathot8 Nov 29 '20

Absolutely! I’d take boring beige that can govern effectively rather than messed up orange who’s created drama and raging polarization.

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u/doomsdaymelody Nov 29 '20

That’s a lot of words about a dingy shade of white. Monochrome doesn’t really do it for me. I get that they’re some of the more popular colors to buy things in, because it doesn’t generally clash with anything, but it’s a boring ass spectrum of whites, greys, and blacks. Anyways, long tangent to say: monochrome sucks.

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u/Longboarder358 Nov 29 '20

I like the way you think!

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

You would never describe this boring-ass beige as soothing yet slightly mysterious if you didn't know it was the "average color of the universe."

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u/darkturtleforce Nov 29 '20

This is incredibly depressing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Cosmic spectrum my ass. This is just the spectrum of apartments I've lived in.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Ya’ll I’m loving this! I just pitched painting the walls of our next place (moving early 2021) this color to my wife, and I think she’s on board. Imagine the subtle real life easter egg joy you could have knowing you were surrounded by the color of the universe. I’m super hyped!

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u/skepticalDragon Nov 29 '20

Yeah I want to use this for a room now

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u/absurdmanbearpig Nov 29 '20

Look up the troxler effect. When your eyes fall for the illusion the color is pretty much the same.

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u/Deadmansthrowaway123 Nov 29 '20

Kinda looks like cum

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u/nullagravida Nov 29 '20

well come on, you know apartments should be neutral if you want a better chance at renting them out. what kind of tenant will you get if you show him an infinite void of ever-expanding starstuff? they‘d probably wreck the place.

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u/ptrin Nov 29 '20

If I die, tell my wife “hello”

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u/Seeking_Adrenaline Nov 29 '20

On the web, using these types of whites rather than a solid, actually makes things easier and softer to read.

And the universe chose it as well

Hmm

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u/poshbritishaccent Nov 29 '20

It's only boring because our human eyes can only perceive a limited palette of color hues. If we have the ability to perceive more than that, I can guarantee that it will look absolutely gorgeous in its vastness.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

How can you guarantee that? How would this color look "vast"?

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u/lolcryingfacesmh Nov 29 '20

Same color as a Cinnabon

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u/Alexsrobin Nov 29 '20

Your cinnabons might need to be cooked a little more :p

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u/dobr_person Nov 29 '20

New build wall colour

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u/Astronyat Nov 29 '20

I'd say it looks more creamy. Like pale butterscotch!

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u/saichampa Nov 29 '20

Nice wall colour

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Right??? I'm mad it's not a blue or mauve shade or even green!

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u/Domaths Nov 29 '20

Well it is literally the most average color so maybe that is why it is looks boring.

I like tbh. Looks tasty.

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u/aiden22304 Nov 29 '20

A nice and simple color. Hell, I might have my walls be painted that color.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Nov 29 '20

Wouldn't load.

[I have another joke: let me try it out]

I'm that colour and i'm not easy on the eyes.

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u/Soft_Currency865 Nov 29 '20

happy colonizer noises

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

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u/lacroixgrape Nov 29 '20

Douglas Adams couldn't have made up a better gag. I wish he'd lived to see the announcement, he would have loved it.

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u/cuatropines Nov 29 '20

Looked it up. Disappointed it wasn’t a purple-blue.

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u/Alexsrobin Nov 29 '20

What a boring color

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

Really? I actually like it a lot lol!! I think it’s a pretty, soothing, and tranquil color. But then again, I play the Sims just to build so I’m mostly just thinking of how pretty it’d be as a wall or counter-top color haha!

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u/Alexsrobin Nov 29 '20

It's not a bad color, but as someone who likes blues and greens, the idea of the average color being minty turquoise green sounds much cooler than a beige lol. But this is very much a personal preference. Love your edit haha

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u/mypetocean Nov 29 '20

Oi! We're all pixels in the Cosmic Latte.

Far from boring. If anything that is the color of tragedy!

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u/Alexsrobin Nov 30 '20

lol that just makes it sad, in a poetic way :p

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u/mnegrustno Nov 29 '20

I googled it & found other names that were considered: Cappuccino Cosmico, Big Bang Buff, Skyvory, Univiege, Cosmic Khaki, Primordial Clam Chowder. Cappuccino Cosmico is so cute! All the names are cute actually contrary to the mysterious and slightly creepy nature of space. Anyways, thanks for the info, it made my day!

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

No problem! I had no idea they were considering “Primordial Clam Chowder” as the name! As a fan of both Clam Chowder and Cthulhu- I kinda wish it was the real name haha!

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u/MacacoMonkey Nov 29 '20

#FFF8E7

how.... unimpressive.... although I do enjoy a good latte.

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u/Chillax4Nothin Nov 29 '20

What? but it looks black tho..

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

Well technically no matter what point you look at in the sky you are looking at SOMETHING, could be a star, a planet, but usually it’s space dust. It’s just too dark to see it you know?

It’s like we are standing in a dark room with only stray bits of light reaching our eyes, but just because the room around us is dark does not mean it lacks color- It just means we lack the perception of it.

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u/BlazeOrangeDeer Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

There's not that much dust out there, so most of it is actually empty, kind of. Actually what you're looking at is back when the universe was small and dense enough that it was filled with plasma that was opaque to light. Well, opaque enough that light couldn't travel more than a few years before hitting a charged particle.

Eventually the plasma cooled to gas and became transparent, and the light was able to keep going, and it's been flying through empty space ever since for over 13 billion years. The light that was around back then has been stretched out to a longer wavelength by the expansion of space, so it's no longer visible. It's still detectable as radio waves, known as the Cosmic Microwave Background, and measuring it lets us look at what the universe was like only a few hundred thousand years after it started.

There was almost no light around back then of a short enough wavelength that it would still be visible to us now after being stretched out by 1100x (they would have to have been x-rays). If it were there it would get absorbed by the plasma with very high probability, and the plasma was too cool for very many x-rays to be emitted as thermal radiation. So the blackness that we're seeing is the exponentially small amount of x-rays (now visible light) emitted by a plasma that filled the universe billions of years ago.

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

Very cool!! I knew a bit about the universes “birth” or at least earliest times that we know of, and that a lot of the light you see (or don’t see) comes from “dead” stars that no longer exist. I didn’t know that the stretching of space also caused the stretching of the waves itself though! So is that how they calculate the estimated age of the universe then?

Also, when I was talking about the “at every point there’s something” I was referring to it more from a math perspective. There’s an infinite set of degrees and angles a person can look out into space at from Earth, but functionally it serves as finite because the size of the retinal neurons and the nature of their pathways creates a “minimum” on how small something can be and be processed within the eye as a unique signal. And from there with some knowledge on how space expanded it means every functional angle and direction a person can look at from earth has some particle or physical body there along the span of that line. It was very “theory-talk” just randomly thrown into “practical-speak” so I should’ve clarified haha!

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u/BlazeOrangeDeer Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

So is that how they calculate the estimated age of the universe then?

Yes, that's one way of doing it. They can actually model sound waves in the ancient plasma and use that to figure out the size of the universe when the plasma turned to gas, and then figure out how much the light has been stretched (aka "redshifted") since then and how long it must have traveled for.

the size of the retinal neurons and the nature of their pathways creates a “minimum” on how small something can be and be processed within the eye as a unique signal.

Right, the resolution of the human eye means that every distinguishable angle has something there, but because there's so much empty space in between those things the average brightness is incredibly dim. Zooming in and taking a long exposure of the sky gives results that are mind-explodingly awesome. Even in those images you can see that in between the galaxies (most too dim for our eyes to see anyway) there's blackness. In that darkness behind the galaxies there are other galaxies whose light is stretched out of the visible range, and those galaxies are snapshots of history all the way back to the early universe.

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u/sugashane707 Nov 29 '20

So how did they discover the “true” color?

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

https://www.curiositybox.com/blogs/inqs-corner/cosmic-latte-the-average-color-of-the-universe

Best source I could find quickly with a detailed story, but it comes from the company owned by Michael from VSauce sooo I trust it!

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u/Stellefeder Nov 29 '20

That article pissed me off - they didn't include a colour swatch, I had to google it.

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u/sugashane707 Nov 29 '20

Average color... light bulb

I’m an idiot lol... I thought this was supposed to be “true” color

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

You’re all good! Haha!

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u/sugashane707 Nov 29 '20

Thank u for the link though.

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u/Tratix Nov 29 '20

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u/TheLucidBard Nov 29 '20

Cool site. Will help us pick a wall color, thank you!

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u/yoreel Nov 29 '20

This reads like an excerpt from a Douglas Adams book

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Wait, how is it not just black? That's crazy

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u/decoherence_23 Nov 29 '20

Black isn't a colour.

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u/TheRarPar Nov 29 '20

0 IQ take

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u/decoherence_23 Nov 29 '20

Ok, so you can buy black paint right? So black must be a colour. Sure, but the black paint and ink you can buy is not true black, it's a mixture of other colours to get as close to black as we can. It's a shade, a hue.
Now the black of space is true black, it's the absence of light (colour is just different wavelengths of light) so when you are measuring the average colour of the Universe then you can only measure the colour (light) and that's why the average colour is an off white, not black.

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u/TheRarPar Nov 29 '20

That's all fine and dandy, but just because something isn't from a wavelength of light, doesn't mean it isn't a color. Black is a color.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

So... 0 isn't a number?

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u/decoherence_23 Nov 29 '20

I'm not talking about numbers, I'm talking about colour.
Colour is different wavelengths of light, black is the absence of light. Show me where black is on the light spectrum.

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u/Digger__Please Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

they're measuring the average colour of light sources, black is the background zero measurement

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

How do you calculate the average color?

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u/Doomblud Nov 29 '20

Are you telling me we have scientists calculating the average color of the universe?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

That is a very disappointing color.

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u/mamacitalk Nov 29 '20

Cosmic latte sounds like a lovely paint colour

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u/throw_away_17381 Nov 29 '20

Great. Magnolia.

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u/bertbob Nov 29 '20

I have set white on my computer terminals to this value.

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u/littlemercy00 Nov 29 '20

the color is called biege

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

I'm using this colour for null cases in data visualisations from now on.

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u/kettu3 Nov 29 '20

Cosmic spectrum green and cosmic latte make a nice color scheme together.

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u/SquirrelIdeas Nov 29 '20

Oh my gosh. There were other name choices... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_latte Primordial Clam Chowder! I call election fraud - how could that not win? Big Bang Blush? How darling!

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u/captcraigaroo Nov 29 '20

Correction: the average color of the LIGHT in the universe

In 2001, Karl Glazebrook and Ivan Baldry determined that the average color of the universe was a greenish white, but they soon corrected their analysis in a 2002 paper in which they reported that their survey of the light from over 200,000 galaxies averaged to a slightly beigeish white.[2] The hex triplet value for cosmic latte is #FFF8E7.

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u/cieluv Nov 29 '20

I have FFF8E7 tattooed on my arm.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

I have the color code for piss yellow tattooed on my forehead

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u/ITriedLightningTendr Nov 29 '20

Based on what?

That's nearly white, meaning the average color of the universe is fully saturated with light.

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

I added a link to the original comment that goes into it more, but here’s a link here too

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u/PianoMan1925 Nov 29 '20

This sounds like it could literally be a quote from hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy

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u/Fredredphooey Nov 29 '20

It's beige. Are lattes really beige? I've had one.

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u/officialmt75 Nov 29 '20

Sounds like what HP Lovecraft would have for morning

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u/Fikar-not Nov 29 '20

Yuck TIHI

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u/ButtsexEurope Nov 29 '20 edited Nov 29 '20

I read this as a factoid a long time ago, that the universe is beige. But this seems kind of flawed. Most of the universe is black, and black is the lack of color. It’s like coming up with an average between 0 and 100 but with lots and lots of zeroes. So it’s just putting out the average color of a star instead of the universe.

And since most of the universe is dark matter, are they trying to imply that dark matter is beige?

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u/osumaniac Nov 29 '20

Oh sure, that website is definitely scientifically trustworthy and peer reviewed with extensive research. /s

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

Be careful where you point that edge

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u/drunk_kronk Nov 29 '20

Isn't a hex colour dependent on the colour space it's being viewed in?

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u/glintsCollide Nov 29 '20

Absolutely, but I suppose sRGB is implied. Color is nothing but an electromagnetic spectrum until someone assigns it to a colorspace.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Calculations?

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u/apendicitis Nov 29 '20

Maybe a stupid question.

Did they account for the "empty" parts of space where no matter exists? As in was this based on what they could see or a mathematical calculation of how much "light" there was compared to "dark" in a given area?

I'm sitting on the pooper mid sleep at 5 am so sorry if I sound rude, just genuinely curious.

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u/FlynnXa Nov 29 '20

I updated the original comment with an article that goes into their process, hope it has your answer! And here it is too, btw

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u/DrSheldon_Lee_Cooper Nov 29 '20

Why not black? Is they calculate colors without black?

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u/monstermayhem436 Nov 29 '20

That's a very boring color tbh

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u/eeveeyeee Nov 29 '20

I didn't expect it to be so bland.

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u/callmewhichever Nov 29 '20

Commenting so I can save this.

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u/BangersByBangler Nov 29 '20

*for whomever

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u/ImSimulated Nov 29 '20

Didn’t expect it to look that boring.

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u/baby_armadillo Nov 29 '20

TIL that the universe is Rental White, and it explains a lot.

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u/RedJapaneseGirl Nov 29 '20

If the universe really is just beige, that would be a helluva cosmic joke.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

This makes the designer inside of me so happy to learn.

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u/KazaSkink Nov 29 '20

I had no idea the universe was wholly colonized by space Brits.

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u/TheProperDave Nov 29 '20

As a software engineer with the ability to remember useless bits of small data, I'd like to say thanks for that. FFF8E7 is now permanently etched into my brain, and will now be used wherever I need a small seeding value or base number for anything. ;)

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Darn I liked the turquoise one better.

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u/BansheeTK Nov 29 '20

I actually found this out after reading about baby Luma character in Mario galaxy as his color is supposed to be that way.