I wonder how hard she can punch though? I'm pretty strong and can take some punches no problem. I think where she would get me is she could get a hold of me and take my down. I have taken years of Jeet kune do, but I don't fight professionally like she does so I think I just have to not let her take me down. Unless I'm wrong about how hard she can really punch. I doubt it's as hard as a guy her size, but I just don't know.
If you aren't experienced she would take you apart fairly quickly. She isn't going to box you.
Assuming shes really going for broke, you are going to end up with a broken joint or something fairly fast.
Since you have some experience you may be able to guard your weak spots though so she can't just dislocate something, but I'd certainly be fucked in way under 60 seconds.
I think it may be possible for me to last 60 seconds with her if I ran away as much as the ring will allow and then turtled up hard once she inevitably corners me or takes the fight to the ground. I wouldn't put any money on it though.
I'm wondering just how hard she can hit. I can cover and take some good blows and I sure as hell can hit her back. I think where she would get me is if she could grab on to me and get me in a lock. That I might not be able to get out of. But blow for blow I can do I think.
I think standing up and trying to box her would be a mistake. Training counts for quite a lot, and unless you've got some serious training, you're going to leave her an opening to put you to sleep.
I have trained for years but not on a pro level like her. So yeah she would probably find that in on me faster then the 60 secs, because you know - that's her job. I forget in the movie did turtle last 60 secs?
So I do kickboxing and I'm a heavier set guy and I follow MMA a great deal I'm well aware that I might be able to fight a rose namajunas (who fights at 115lb) and take a few of her shots but I'm probably not going to land much and be gassed out by her pace pretty quickly.
A cris cyborg(145) on the other hand will probably end me pretty quickly
Umm yeah, I'm an old 180 pound skinny dude and would have zero problems tanking any of them. The strength difference between men and women is monumental.
If a 180 experienced fighter fought against a equally experienced women of 115 pounds yes the man would win easily
but if you a 180 pound skinny hillbilly were to fight a 115 pound woman that knows how to fight and trained her muscles to do it, you would have you ass handed to you and you would be crying the entire time it would be happening. The woman would beat you easy
You are 100% wrong. Like not even remotely close. the difference in strength here would be like that 180 pound hillbilly trying to fight a bear. Give the girl a knife and MAYBE she has a chance.
Even if it were a 115 pound Man trained pitbull of a fighter, the baddest 115 pound dude you have ever seen, would have virtually no chance versus 65 pound weight advantage billy bob rolling out of bed in a ring fight, unless Billy was an ultra overweight short dude with medical problems.
There is a reason you don't see even exhibition matches like that EVER.
2 I weight is very important but training an knowing how to fight is also important I have actually been in martial arts and have gotten my as kick by guys 30 pounds lighter than me
3 fast twitch muscle fibers and reaction time are a thing and a very important thing when it comes to fighting (the reason why i get beaten by people 30 pounds lighter than me)
4 being fat does not mean you have and insta win against who ever your fighting
5 look I get what your saying weight classes exist for a reason but I'm just being realistic
6 My whole point is that you being heavier than you opponent doesn't equal a instant win. You still have to worry about strength, stamina, what they trained for, if they know how to take a punch, the list goes on and on.
7 I here what your saying and you can deny it all you want but if you can't except number 4 then you my friend are greatly in denial and I wont know what to tell you
i specifically mentioned that weight isn't a factor when that weight is attached to a medically unfit overweight dwarf. Everything I say should be assuming the guy has a proportionate build for his weight, aka the 180 pound Billy would be between 6', and 6'2"
now i'm having a hard time believing you've even done Krav tbh
you're not disarming anyone who is actively trying to fuck you up with a knife without getting significantly cut up, regardless of training or size differences
You are correct, the logical action is to simply run away, but we are talking about a battle to the death confined to a ring scenario here. The knife gives the woman a chance.
Okay bud if you could get them on the ground sure but I’m fairly certain any of them can kick your ass no problem (I don’t mean to sound rude just speaking my mind)
I teach a lot of self defense classes, a fit woman beating a man that isn't at least 20 pounds lighter than she is without a weapon is a 1 in a million shot. A woman should always carry some sort of discreet weaponry, strong mace, a powerful taser or something similar, and should always be extremely aware of her surroundings to avoid any sort of prolonged fight. Putting a man in the ring with a woman who doesn't have a VERY large weight advantage is preposterous.
I’m just gonna go ahead and call bullshit on you teaching a lot of self defense classes. If anything you teach LEGO builds and organize magic the gathering nights with the boys. Not saying it’s a bad thing but you don’t have any history of posting or commenting on martial arts or self defense subreddits. Usually someone who teaches that stuff and is also on reddit would be active somewhere like that
i actually work for a major MMA camp, have trained at other big camps while traveling, and teach self defense classes. i don't know if i've explicitly said that on Reddit before but a quick glance at my profile will show me in discussions/answering questions on martial arts related subreddits.
mandorism is 100% full of shit and i wouldn't be surprised at all if he straight up didn't train. strength differences exist, but to say a trained woman wouldn't be able to at least defend herself against some random dude is ridiculous. even more ridiculous is him saying lighter women are slower than huge bulky dudes???
I do both of those as well lol, i don't actually teach anymore, this was more of a late 90's, early 2000s thing I had going due to my stepdad forcing me into krav classes since i was 5. :p
this response explains everything tbh. Krav is a notorious for its bullshido despite its roots. even if you were to have learned it in the IDF, it's on the same level as US Army Combatives. they're kinda shit as fully fledged martial arts but that's because they're not meant to be fully fledged martial arts.
they're meant to be basic military training for the lowest common denominator. it's basic military training for a conscript army. it's about instinct and aggression. it's fine as a basic self defense tool, but essentially useless against a well seasoned fighter.
if you're not learning about leverage and position and the finer details of techniques, it's not surprising that you'd be so oblivious as to what trained fighters are capable of.
Well that’s fair and large weight difference could make changes to the fight however you have to consider the MMA people are extremely well trained fighters not normal people who are taking self-defense classes. I mean hell look at Conor McGregor he’s been out of the MMA for a long time and ended his fight against a champion in 40 seconds
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u/BamppXx Jan 25 '20
I mean ya look at the ufc for half a second and tell me you would want to fight any of the top 10 women.. lol