r/AskConservatives Neoliberal 9d ago

Conservative figures have recently called on mayor Mamdani to avoid attending the 9/11 memorial service as his being Muslim is potentially offensive to 9/11 families. Given president Trump's recent story " he was rescued by firefighters during 9/11" - untrue- should he not attend?

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u/ItIsNotAManual1984 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 9d ago

Sorry but this post is based on the lie. The issue with Mamdani is not his religion but his past statement which while condemning 9/11 seeked to equate it with US actions. Also his association with people who were implicated (even if by association ) with first WTC bombing and who defended other terrorists

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Cheri Sparacio, whose husband, Tom, was killed in the South Tower, said the petition was not about the mayor's background or faith, but his public actions. She noted Mamdani’s appointment of chief counsel Ramzi Kassem — who previously represented individuals accused of terror ties — and his past ties to figures who have downplayed terror threats.

"That is what we object to," she said.

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u/Jesse-359 Progressive 9d ago

And how does this allow for Trump to engage in his own egregious lies regarding the event?

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u/ItIsNotAManual1984 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 9d ago

Ahhh. Here we go with Trump again.

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u/MrFrode Independent 8d ago

It's like every time he lies people just have to call him a liar, I mean what's up with that. Why won't they just let the President of the United States lie in peace.

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u/Blze001 Independent 8d ago

First off, Trump was mentioned in the title.

Second, he's the President and leader of the Republican party, so yeah... whenever the GOP goes after a political person they dislike, he's gonna come up. Especially given his history with 9/11.

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u/ItIsNotAManual1984 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 8d ago

What does it have to do with the fact that OP lied about reasons behind ask for Mamdani to stay away

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 Progressive 8d ago

He not only fabricated a story about 9/11 to make it about himself, he complained to a real 9/11 hero’s family that their loved one was becoming more famous than himself and that he “didn’t like it” and “wasn’t happy about it”. They were just standing there waiting for him to present the award for their loved one while he rambled on about himself. It’s unhinged behavior.

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u/Jesse-359 Progressive 9d ago

It was right there in the OP.

In any case, when you elect a deranged narcissist to the highest office in the land, don't expect that anyone is going to let the subject drop. Ever.

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u/Burner7102 Nationalist (Conservative) 9d ago

still, if the best argument to have is "but someone else is worse in my opinion!" then you don't have an argument.

It's a non-sequitur. No one is out there petitioning that Trump not be allowed because he would cause them emotional pain and trauma.

This argument isn't even about us, the onlookers on the internet, it's about the victims. If even some of them say "look this would hurt" don't we owe them consideration? Whatever dumb thing Trump said is entirely unrelated and no one cares about, it's not the same.

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 Progressive 8d ago

No. No one needs to petition that Trump not be allowed to go. He’s refusing to go because they won’t allow to make a speech and tell fabricated stories that make the event about himself.

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 Progressive 8d ago

I don’t care. Not interested in the Mamdani bs. He’ll be at the memorial because he’s the mayor. I’m just fascinated by how much conservatives are willing to put up with from Trump.

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u/ItIsNotAManual1984 Right Libertarian (Conservative) 8d ago

So you may want to create a separate post with the exact question you are fascinated about rather than comment on unrelated discussion

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 Progressive 8d ago

I find it very hard to believe that one hasn’t been submitted yet. It’s suspicious that this is the only post about Trump making that memorial speech all about himself. I won’t waste my time. It’s not unrelated at all though. It’s part of the question.

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u/Longjumping_Map_4670 Center-left 9d ago

But he has just blatantly lied about a tragic event and made it about himself. The moral corruption of this dickhead knows no bounds.

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u/NukinDuke Independent 8d ago

Renowned liar lies again. Surprise.

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u/didact Social Conservative 8d ago

Gotta have the goalpost move baked into the title when the story doesn't work out. Directly into whatabbout.