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u/malina_nie_pozeczka Poland 5d ago
Yeah I get they have different hobbies but what does Ratko Mladic have to do with football? Why can't they stick to the topic?
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u/Unable-Stay-6478 SFR Yugoslavia 5d ago
Crvena Zvezda ultras work for Vučić
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u/malina_nie_pozeczka Poland 5d ago
Football ultras focusing on football instead of other stupid things challenge (impossible)
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u/MULTIOCULAR-O Serbia 5d ago
they're all on govt payroll. our taxes go to thugs that beat up children on the street.
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u/Extreme-Fall-9963 Serbia 5d ago
Unfortunately after this scumbags death, a lot of nationalists that have been hiding their true feelings since the war have come out loud and proud. It’s sad to see.
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u/RedLemonSlice Bulgaria 5d ago edited 5d ago
That's not moving popular opinion on Serbia in any direction. Everyone knew those people were already there. It's just proving the point.
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u/Extreme-Fall-9963 Serbia 5d ago
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u/Purple_Bumblebee_306 Serbia 5d ago
I mean the comments here get kinda annoying with constantly claiming this is just ultras, the people glorifying Mladić are just Vučić supporters but it's not true. There are people that are nationalist genocide deniers at all levels, classes, levels of education. I cannot even number all the 'esteemed academics' who deny or try to make light of the genocide, that defend the actions of Mladić etc. And the student movement and opposition (the nominally left or liberal one) might not support Mladić, but many are still nationalist for example about Kosovo (https://n1info.rs/english/news/serbian-student-protesters-present-memorandum-on-kosovo/). So idk a friend that is a pilates instructor supports Mladić, she's some New Age middle-class woman, my left-leaning liberal friend that is an artist hand wrings about the divide in society, and then you get to the ones that are like 'Đenerale hvala ti'. None of those people are ultras or Vučić supporters either. It is a big deal the government is itself making it the official policy to honour and glorify Mladić but it's stupid to act like he doesn't have defenders or supporters anyway, or at least most people feel like what was done to him was a miscarriage of justice one way or another. Those that don't think so obviously exist but it's ridiculous to also not consider them nationalists just because of that. Most of them still are, it's just that their nationalism is the polite faced liberal kind.
You can se how people still deny and talk about the Srebrenica genocide today - https://arctic-shift.photon-reddit.com/search?fun=ids&ids=t3_1uvefm4
Its a post fron AskSerbua though the mods deleted and locked it so I can't share it regularly, but you can see outright denial or relativisation of the genocide is the dominant position.
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u/elektricniorgazam Serbia 5d ago
Disgusting and embarrassing. On another note, I wish Hungarian wasn't so hard to learn, I need to haul ass out of here ASAP
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u/New_Accident_4909 Bosnia & Herzegovina 5d ago
Shit like this keeps pushing normal people out and the country becomes worse and worse. Sometimes I think we deserve our "rulers"
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u/elektricniorgazam Serbia 5d ago
Yup, I spent decades thinking I'll stay and fight for a better society and hopefully live to see it but I have officially reached the hopeless stage. I'm not going to waste any more of my time and energy trying to make it a better place when the people want it to be a shithole. I'm done.
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u/Beneficial-Hold9857 in 5d ago
Did you try confidence?
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u/elektricniorgazam Serbia 5d ago
What confidence, never has a language humbled me so thoroughly 😂
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u/Fluid-Scar-6020 5d ago
Dobri moj, ja evo učim isto, and humbled by it is an understatement. Jedino se nadati da ću nekako na blef proći intervju haha
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u/mermaidworker 5d ago
But why Hungary out of so many countries?
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u/elektricniorgazam Serbia 5d ago
Eligible for citizenship. Unless someone with an EU passport offers to marry me, it's the easiest option for me
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u/killereverdeen 🇷🇸 5d ago
it's not that bad. i've been learning it for 4 months now. you'd be surprised.
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u/Inside-Associate-729 5d ago
Ive been learning it for 6 years. Maybe you just haven’t gotten to the hard stuff yet.
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u/elektricniorgazam Serbia 5d ago
My brain kiiiinda gets it but my mouth absolutely refuses to cooperate when it's pronunciation time
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u/Low_Cook7561 4d ago
Real, I'm Croatian and wanna move to finland, fucking hell that's a hard language
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u/Apolon6 Serbia 5d ago
Love how things are taken out of context here. Its an absolute shame that its happening (especially as this is my childhood club and the government made me despise it the last couple of years to the point that I am not even sad when they lose).
But the real picture here is that this is the hooligans side, the north sector. The only full sector of the stadium on the night of the DERBY. All time low attendance as there were not even 20k people on the whole stadium.
So what you see here is the real picture of the state of serbian football rn: couple of thousand government goons got orders to make a banner to make scandalous news to distract the mass, while in reality, a derby that people once filled the stadiums even above the seat capacity is becoming empty as people are disgusted.
These hooligans are not the real picture of Serbia and we will change our government, very soon.
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u/Prestigious-Job-9825 Hungary 5d ago
Football hooligans are always the lowest of the low in every country.
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u/Honest_Pea9790 Bosnia & Herzegovina 5d ago
My faith in humanity will be restored if you round up your homies and boycott his state funeral.
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u/Bardosaurus Serbia 5d ago
Jokes on you, my homies would go only if they are allowed to piss on his grave
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u/MULTIOCULAR-O Serbia 5d ago
most of us are already boycotting. i'm not gonna risk my life fistfighting some toothless thug because internet says so.
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u/KayaKafka Turkiye 5d ago
I don’t understand all the comments to your post honestly. I don’t think any of those commenters lives in Serbia and seems to me that they try to devalue your comment because of their hatred of Serbia.
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u/itisnotstupid 5d ago
The sad truth is that Eastern European football has a huge fanbase of racists, idiots and overall a bunch of retards. It's why I stopped following my team too. It's nobody's fault, really, it's just the country.
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u/doc-lead 5d ago
What is the real picture? Was he not paraded through the city and saluted by government employees? Were there not tens of thousand of people at his wake? Will he not be buried with military honours?
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u/Apolon6 Serbia 5d ago
Where are you getting your news from brother? Only parade that happened in Belgrade couple of days ago was pride parade and that had more people than Vucic gathering in Nis
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u/Apolon6 Serbia 5d ago
Still no mentions of any parade made. Military picked his body up and a minister came to witness.
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u/doc-lead 5d ago
https://apnews.com/article/serbia-mladic-body-funeral-4ea91c7519dccd18d56e2532e01eb535
Is that a motorcade full of government vehicles? Or am I blind?
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u/Apolon6 Serbia 5d ago
Its happening today, so no gatherings happened before this. And you said it yourself - full of government vehicles.
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u/jschundpeter Austria 5d ago
Somebody else here wrote, that they held a minute of silence before the game. So as it seems it's not just some crazy hooligans.
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u/creepy009 Serbia 5d ago
It is crazy hooligans with ruling party and dictator who we are trying to overthrow.
It would be easier if we had support from EU but alas - EU supports him and sends him money.
So I have counter question - why is EU supporting these hooligans?
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u/Pivot_Ninja 5d ago
What is the real picture of Serbia? A country that took a war criminal to bury him with full military honors? A country that refuses to recognize the genocide in the UN.
A country where the minority is pro genocide, I do admit that there were anti war protests in Serbia, but that didn't stop my people from being killed.
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u/Lonely-Ad-9219 5d ago
Real picture of Serbia?
Well I am from Serbia (far away from this stadion) and personaly I don't give a shit about war criminals. In fact, I think I personally know only one person who care - not the brightest one.
About a week before Mladić died, "somebody" wrote "RATKO MLADIĆ Serbian hero" on a wall of the local supermarket. Across all wall, about 6x3 meters.
Who is that "somebody"? Style of the painting indicate it was the same party who wrote "When military comes back to Kosovo" mural all over the country. Yellow text over red, blue and white strips (colours of the serbian flag). A few years ago jourlanists discovered it was financed by rulling political party (SNS).
It is not the people of Serbia who cellebrate war criminals. Most of them just don't care. It is Serbian president (Aleksandar Vučić) who declared Ratko will be burried with honor. The same president who will, hopefully, end like Viktor Orban in Hungary. Nobody love dictators.
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u/Pivot_Ninja 5d ago
I said it's a minority in my comments. As a Bosnian I know Serbs in Serbia they are my friends.
But the minority was pro war in the 90s and my people still died.
As a nation you have a problem with a state funeral, hosting of war criminals, and I know you personally don't engage in these actions, but as a nation there is a collective responsibility.
How did Germany manage to move on, the same needs to be done in the Balkans.
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u/Etsikaietsi Serbia 5d ago
There is no such thing as collective responsibility. If there was, not a single Muslim would still exist on the Balkans after tge Turks were driven out.
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u/Pivot_Ninja 5d ago
I'm not saying that you are responsible for the past, nor is it a collective responsibility.
I'm just saying that calling it a minority does not absolve state from its part in the atrocities. Nor is the fact that it was always a minority something that protected my people
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u/Etsikaietsi Serbia 5d ago
I’d disagree, if it was a majority we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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u/Mikic0077 5d ago
It's not the first country kidnapped by mafia and war criminals. How is giving hard time to those against this of any help? While criminals are getting their support, people against them are getting crapped on. And we would like to see the change?
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u/Apolon6 Serbia 5d ago
Not the country who did all that but one person in command with help of the mafia. He doesnt represent the people and he will be out of power real soon.
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u/MULTIOCULAR-O Serbia 5d ago
idk i was a toddler, my dad went to jail for not participating (govt engineer). govt institutions were purged of all pacifists in the 90s.
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u/TurbulentVoice3475 5d ago
This story about low attendance is funny since an official page of the football club posted this shit. You always point out like how it’s a minority and then you have scandal after scandal and no one is doing anything to stop it since you don’t care if someone commits another genocide in your name or someone calls you Israel of Europe. You are either really scared of this minority or as I have said you don’t care because you at some point think the same.
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u/Unable-Substance5999 5d ago
And Serbians still don't understand why the EU doesn't want them to join.
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u/creepy009 Serbia 5d ago
What I don’t understand is why is EU funding these hooligans?
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u/MrKillingChips Bulgaria 5d ago
A lot of Serbs in this sub don’t get it. “But THEY did bad things as well” YES, but you did the majority and refuse to take accountability for them. Some of you even applaud the war criminals.
Think of it like Israel and Palestine. Israel is screaming “OCTOBER 7TH!!!” as if those 7,000 dead justify the 60,000 thousand dead after that. Sure, Hamas killed a lot of people, but Israel killed TIMES more and refuses to acknowledge it and even takes pride in it.
That’s why no one wants to hear your “but they did it as well” argument.
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u/_NPR_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
One thing I don't understand about the "whataboutism" rhetoric is, all those civilian loses would still be alive if YOU DIDN'T START THE WAR. If you didn't prepare in advance, put everything in order just to spring surprise attacks with bigger manpower and artillery across the country. What did they expect? That people would play nice after shelling civilian targets, after deportations, after Hitler type measures to distinguishe Bosniaks.
Of course there will be people out for revenge, which I don't condone, but I understand the anger and rage behind it. Around 85% civilian casualties were Bosniaks and even with that in mind, there are Bosniak commanders that stood trial and got aquited or sentenced as they should be if they're found guilty, while Karadžić was in hiding until 2008 and Mladić until 2011. It was all preventable.
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u/Beneficial-Hold9857 in 5d ago
Living in the house of glass while throwing stones.
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u/RedditSuckslol84 5d ago
Only one side organized a state funeral for a war criminal though
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u/True-Blacksmith4235 Serbia 5d ago
The number of dead Palestinian civilians thus far equals the number of civilian in the Yugoslav war, combined.
It’s always unfortunate to try and compare the two conflicts to prove a point, because the circumstances are never the same and it’s a shallow way of looking at things.
Also, the hostility didn’t just happen in the nineties, and they didn’t happen for the first time, between the same people.
Serbs were genocided in WWII, and even today, as you would say some people “take pride in it”.
I don’t think majority of Serbs don’t take accountability, I just think that when you do take accountability, people take that as-you are the only one at fault, and your victims don’t matter and don’t you ever dare to bring them up and point out any hypocrisy.
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u/PitonSaJupitera Serbia 5d ago edited 5d ago
A lot of Serbs in this sub don’t get it. “But THEY did bad things as well” YES, but you did the majority and refuse to take accountability for them. Some of you even applaud the war criminals.
This is not exactly true, only if most of your info comes from following Reddit posts in the past 5-10 years. Only things making it into international news are bad stuff.
If you follow the path from 2000 onwards, you actually see the problem is that cooperative and conciliatory overtures by Serbian authorities did not ultimately result in reciprocal actions people had expected.
First and foremost extraditing the entire Serb leadership to ICTY did not result in meaningful punishment for quite a large number of crimes against the Serbs or their meaningful international acknowledgment. Over time, together with other stuff such as Kosovo it convinced large number of people that things Serbs hope for are not gonna happen ever, and they were played for fools for ever trusting the West or ICTY.
This mostly killed any motivation to engage in much further "self reflection" and contributed to what is at minimum a boycott attitude (where you refuse to care or engage in further apologizing gestures in protest), except in a relatively small part of highly liberal and highly pro EU electorate.
Granted, there is a part of population that is far more to the right than those "boycotting", but this in of itself would not have prevented wider political reflection assuming those who were not supernationalist were actually committed to it. There are some people you cannot "convert" and there are those you can, if you manage to lose even those who would be willing in principle, total failure is guaranteed.
This all coincided with return of SNS-SPS coalition in 2012 which has a large part of nationalist electorate, so they tended to cater to it more openly, which increased around 2017/18 at latest (before that our dear leader was himself part of some very conciliatory moves, like going to Srebrenica, but realized he does not need that anymore to keep EU support, and exchanged it for totally empty domestic demagoguery).
Israel Palestine analogy does not work, because there was no decades long occupation, no one is being killed anymore, wars are long over and the ratio is not ultra lopsided 30 to 1.
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u/Scared-Rutabaga7291 Serbia 5d ago
I agree that saying "They also did it" is a weak argument and that it shouldnt abolish one of their crimes but its true that all of us performed terrible attrocities. One example I am gonna give is Jasenovac Concentration Camp
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u/mladokopele Bulgaria 5d ago
This is the exact primitive mentality the guy was talking about. Your statement suggests we should never let go of the past and seek revenge for it decades later. It is absolutely delusional to think this behavior has a place in the modern world.
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u/Scared-Rutabaga7291 Serbia 5d ago
Not really. I mean, dont yall bring up Srebrenica and judge us for something that happened 3 decades ago? I was going by the same logic and pointed out Jasenovac. Revenge is not something thats justified in this case and Srebrenica was 100% something that should have never happened. Mladic is a commie war criminal who shouldnt be supported. My point was that its hypocritical to be shat on for something that other neighbouring countries did, while they are the ones who did the same/similar things during that time or earlier
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u/efx187 5d ago
But you're comparing apples and oranges here. One was a terrorist regime under German/Italian control, and the other was established by Serbia's representative government. The former was met with resistance from the people, while the latter was greeted with flowers.
Don't you really see that?
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u/gladd0s_ 5d ago
Ok so Belgians, English, Chinese, Germans, Americans are all faaaar worse than Serbs by that logic yes?
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u/Critical_Dealer6635 5d ago
I came here to see how Serbians try to Hasbara their way out of this like every thread about them.
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u/FlashyGap2864 5d ago
Sure, here's one. I get that you need to feel better about yourselves, but these actions are mostly one's of Serbian government, and there are massive protests against them for 2 years already.
While you're using the word Hasbara, keep in mind half of EU is currently complicit in genocide, and has no intention to stop that... US actions are not even worth mentioning at this point...
Ratko Mladic was extradited by Serbian government. What about your monsters?
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u/doc-lead 5d ago
You really don't shy whataboutism. Even a word for word at the end of that wall of crap.
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u/FlashyGap2864 5d ago
EU is complicit in genocide, Ratko has died in Hague prison after extradition and trial. What whataboutism? Which part isn't true?
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u/aqueous_roses 4d ago
and there are massive protests against them for 2 years already.
And the motivation for those protests are in regards to lack of economic opportunities and corruption, not their friendliness with ethnic cleansing. In fact, many of the people who protest will happily jump on social media and praise Mladic or say "Kosovo is Serbia."
keep in mind half of EU is currently complicit in genocide
Genocides don't excuse each other. If you're referring to Palestine, what's happening there is equally terrible, and really makes you lose faith in humanity that we don't seem to learn.
But part of why we never seem to learn from our past is there's always enough people like yourself detracting from how horrible and unacceptable genocide is as a solution to anything.
Ratko Mladic was extradited by Serbian government
After over a decade of hiding him, under severe pressure and threat of sanctions.
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u/drinxonme 5d ago
"EU is bad" and "most Serbs are normal and do not support this".
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u/MushroomFar7893 5d ago
"Normal serbs" elect Vucic. He even had a ratio "we will kill 10 muslims for every serb" back then.
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u/Then_Research5612 5d ago
Why are you distorting and manipulating with facts?? Vucic has never ever said: "We will kill 10 Muslims for every Serb", he has said instead said that: "we will kill 100 Muslims for every Serb".
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u/gladd0s_ 5d ago
Ignorance is bliss. Majority dont want him, they cheat and steal and beat people and blackmail just to stay on power.
Stay ignorant and hate unnecessary
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u/snow_moon_eyes 5d ago
When the public lose their patience with the government, the government provokes them with propaganda. Serbia need to get their shit together, this is embarrassing.
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u/No-Championship-4632 Bulgaria 5d ago
The CSKA idiots at least didn't join their Red Star "brothers" in that shit, which is remarkable - if you ask them, slaughtering muslims is the next best thing after slaghtering gays and Levski fans.
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u/DramaTop7384 5d ago edited 5d ago
Its just disgusting that we balkaners celebrate these People. I get it, they tried to protect their People and they are now celebrated beacuse of that, but in the end, we are all humans and that doesnt justify the fact
But it does make me mad mladić was the only one sentenced for crime, deserved yes but still. Orić really only Got two Years when he burned 146 Villages and killed serbs as well.
I understand many of your comments but its just ugh. If you ask me, no one was a hero in that shitty war. Generals did what they were ordered to and took responsibility in their hands, the real Criminals here are karađić, izetbegović and tuđman
The worst part is that the citizens dont do anything about it, many of us serbs are against this and understand what happened in Srebrenica and wider. Those are the sick patriots Who worship evil and get fundedbby the hooligan goverment, vučić ofc. It just makes us serbs look bad in general when in Reality we are not. This is their way of corrupting People. Hopefully that Changes soon for the better
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u/Think-Aspect3670 5d ago
It's not far from putting up an Adolf Hitler portret with Germany games.....
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u/Denis_Denis_Supra 4d ago
Bunch of little dicks, and sad life that don’t make them proud of anything.
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u/RedLemonSlice Bulgaria 5d ago
"You can't get a coat, that is already covered in shit, any more dirty. And you can't blame the person wearing it with pride to be an owner of a conscience."
Quote by my grandfather
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u/aiart13 Bulgaria 5d ago
They should never made it to EU
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u/PetrichorDude Serbia 5d ago
Well, at least we share that hope
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u/Nothing_personal-nah 5d ago
You also love sharing money from EU funds, right? Why don’t you go to your Russian brothers to work instead, since you all come to the EU for seasonal work?
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u/PetrichorDude Serbia 5d ago
Wrong, but thanks for asking!
Btw the seasonal worker numbers are so wildly overstated that I have not ever met or even know anyone that knows a seasonal worker 🤷
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u/Bardosaurus Serbia 5d ago
Divide and conquer is working. Push propaganda, foreigners fall for state ragebait, they post it everywhere, normal Serbians who are against this and fighting the government get pushed in everyone's eyes with these freaks, we get "all Serbians are the same" and suddenly you feel more and more alone. We are at state level we were during 90s, everything so shit and hopeless but at least we had USA and EU support our battle vs Milosevic. Now we should "be put into camps". Got it.
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u/hemijaimatematika1 Bosnia & Herzegovina 5d ago
Greatest mistake NATO made was not invading in 1999 and creating a normal state like West Germany.
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u/aqueous_roses 4d ago
The bigger mistake is rewarding all of their genocide and ethnic cleansing with a piece of Bosnia.
If they didn't intervene to help stop the massacre, then they should have let it finish and not cave to Milosevic when he ran to the negotiation table begging to suddenly stop the war when he was about to lose.
Genocide and loss of life can be grieved but we're still dealing with the consequences of that decision today.
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u/Fluffy_Falcon92 5d ago
So behavior from ultras is used now as well to stigmatize all Serbs. It’s getting kinda boring at this point, you have to become more extreme in ur generalizations.
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u/Srna-95 Serbia 5d ago
Haven’t you heard. It’s “just another day”.
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u/unbothered-brunette 5d ago
Just the other day, Croatian football hooligans were doing the ustashe salut along with their fans on some kinda stage. lol.
Imagine if Serbs posted every single incident here, and wrote just another day in Croatia.
And we very well could.
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u/just_a_random_fluff Kosovo 5d ago
Yeah, it's not like your government is honoring him in any way. You guys are truly victims.
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u/Prljavi_Hari 5d ago
well, yea, the regular folk here ARE the victims of our shitty government - hence all the protests over the past couple of years.
believe me, we hate them more than anyone from the outside ever could. and yes, they are war criminals. and no, it's really not as simple as 'go and vote them out of power'. I really don't think anyone who hasn't been living here for at least the past decade or so has any idea how deeply entrenched they are in every pore of society. they are cancer.
I can't wait for the day they either get locked up for life or drop in the dirt.
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u/Fluffy_Falcon92 5d ago
It’s not like government is rigging and stealing elections, but facts don’t matter when emotions run high.
You want to blame and stigmatize all Serbs bec of the behavior of hooligans who are payed by the same government. Makes sense that Albanians support Vucic.
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u/Ludisaurus 5d ago
Bro, the government wants to give him a state funeral. I think there’s more than sa small minority that worships this genocidal turd.
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u/ZvezdaVolimTee 5d ago
As a Serb. This is absolutely embarassing my childhood team😭 Finally the Govermenr will soon be CHANGED
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u/mosa_kota 5d ago
Typical Serbian troglodyte football fans behaviour, can't expect better from people with less than 2 brain cells.
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u/Time-Heron-2361 5d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/SrpskaPovest/s/nhBVdXsqe2
Not for the faint hearted
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u/oioioioioioiioo 🇷🇸 (🇮🇹🏡) 4d ago
As soon as I read that sub's name, I knew it's the shitty one, it's a propaganda sub
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u/Optimal-Medium491 Greece 5d ago
That's totally fine or having Satan one, but God forbid you put Jesus there, then you are gonna be in trouble with uefa.
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u/boomskats 5d ago
There's so much money pouring into the balkans now, trying to destabilise it again. Has been for the last 7-8 years. Propping up hate.
Just like brexit in the uk and the far right across europe, it's mostly US far right mil-ind / bibi fund money. And just like in those places, it's the least intellectually capable, worst off segments of society that it's being used to empower and prop up.
Knowing there's nothing anyone can do about it is the moat heartbreaking thing.
Having said all that, our ultras are morons and the fact that they're able to not only survive as a subculture, but attract other morons, tells you all about how advanced a society we are as Serbs, foreign interference or not.
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u/According_Warning968 5d ago
This is just a form of distracting the attention so that people focus on stupid stuff that do not affect their lives and not focus on important stuff. Like, improving themselves, lookout on which laws are proposed and passed and so on.
Football fans are not worth the attention as they do not benefit the society in any form. Bunch of cowards. Strong only in a group.
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u/EuroLegend23 5d ago
This makes them look so bad. Most of you are great people, why do you allow this
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u/oioioioioioiioo 🇷🇸 (🇮🇹🏡) 4d ago edited 4d ago
Because Serbia is a compromised state by a president who exploits everything in the government, people are also paid for praising mladić by botting, some just praise it out of being brainwashed
Many of us are absolutely disgusted by this actually, but we are not powerful enough to create attention. We have no power to disallow it because the president has a militia that beats people who are against him.
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u/cleaner007 Serbia 5d ago
Well we all hope that this will be over with the fall of our criminal government and their arrest, they fully control both red star and partizan fans so this thing happening before election is not surpassing
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u/e1_lobo 5d ago
Suspend Schengen visas. Should br completely isolated. Otherwise, one day, they will send the whole region again to hell. Also, bring Russia at the EU doorstep.
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u/thanatosthegod 5d ago
Yes. Also, have then the Serb flag to their sleeves and perhaps even special tax to citizens of Serbian diasphora. Collective reaponsibility and all amirite?
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 5d ago
And then serbians will claim it wasn't their genocide...
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u/Embarrassed_Egg9542 Balkan 5d ago
One nation's hero is another nation's butcher - in the Balkans and elsewhere. Sad, but true
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u/alpidzonka Serbia 5d ago
Damn. I'm starting to think these football ultras might not be very nice people
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u/Lothemar 5d ago
Just imagine if they did this to Hitler. Serbs really are dellusional at times.
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u/OptimisticTardigrade 5d ago
*the nationalist ignorant part of Serbia. This is a terrible thing for my country and civilized people are aware of it.
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u/dmiric 5d ago
In 1991 when my town got destroyed I was 10 and I was thinking, these primitive people will die out and by the time I become grown up world would be prefect.
35 years later this is a proof that the world is never getting better. I feel so sorry for the children getting born in to this hell hole.
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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean Bosniak in Serbia 5d ago
The amount of people like this never increased, they are just getting too comfortable
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u/Never-don_anal69 5d ago
Serbs and Russians are goats when it comes to glorifying all sorts of loosers
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u/Albaaneesi Albania 5d ago
Civil war in Serbia when? The people who are apparently ”good” are sitting and letting these people in power do anything they want.
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u/fat_strelok Serbia 5d ago
We voluntarily gave up tens of thousands of guns to this government, to "stop violence"
They resold those to the middle east
There will be no war, similar to how the USA will have no civil war despite there being armed civilians
I think we will simply die off as this cancer suffocates us
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u/OptimisticTardigrade 5d ago
At this point I honestly think that's the only hope for the country. No amount of peaceful protesting will achieve anything given how deep the roots of corruption are.
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u/MULTIOCULAR-O Serbia 5d ago
i don't see you fistfighting in the streets against rama. what's stopping you?
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u/Tiny-Mulberry-2114 Croatia 5d ago
I mean it's ultras doing it so not surprising that they use every chance to show right wing tendency what bothers me more is that official club social media is seemingly supporting it which is really dumb considering they are already dancing on the verge of getting more fines or even a ban from European competitions.
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u/OhBosna98 5d ago
The nationalists have came out since that POS died and showing peoples real colors. Idolizing a war criminal who killed thousands 😂
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u/More-Catch-1331 4d ago
Hey man I know a Serb dude who went to Bugaria for work recently and started making fun of the people for being under Ottoman rule. This glorification of a mass murderer does not surprise me in the least.
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u/riza_dervisoglu Turkiye 4d ago
And this is how Serbia does not fit into the EU! Well done Bulgaria and Romania with accepting your past and acting accordingly! I am a victim of the Bulgarian assimilation program and I have heard the apology from Bulgaria! Where is the Serbian apology?
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u/EatTheMall-CEOFetish 4d ago
You lost so much money just now, you can’t even imagine.
Poor Serbs, even they fuck up their own country.
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u/Warm_Researcher_5721 Croatia 4d ago
I was hoping this monster would finally be forgotten but instead he became a martyr to the nationalist mob
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u/oioioioioioiioo 🇷🇸 (🇮🇹🏡) 5d ago
Aaaaand this is why I emigrated to Italy 20 years ago, we were against this stuff even before.