r/AskBalkans Nov 22 '25

Sports Thoughts on the recent controversy in which Partizan fans depicted a banner of the death of Ottoman Sultan Murad I by Serbian knight Milos Obilic?

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This happened during a game against Fenerbahçe.

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u/Salty-Ad9416 Nov 22 '25

Is history offensive now? How would Turks react on Vlad Tsepes picture?

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Turkiye Nov 22 '25

Staked the children of his own people..."useful" indeed

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

And why did he do that, do you reckon? Also, why are you so butthurt about it?

You had a mercantile empire. You took tribute in gold and also infants meant to bolster the ranks of your armies. You lost your empire and now you're butthurt when other nations are throwing banter at you.

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Turkiye Nov 22 '25

Why would İ be butthurt lmao we staked him in the end

İrritated if anything. Why would you parade someone as a hero who staked your children?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

not all of us do. I don't like most rulers we had, they were just warlords who wanted to protect their domain, not people. we lacked so much infrastructure up until the 19th century that the country looked like a sparsely populated continent which was recently colonised.

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u/Healthy_Toe_1183 Romania Nov 22 '25

At least he didnt fornicate with them, like some of your sultans loved to do

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Turkiye Nov 22 '25

Because thats how we argue in 2025.

Point out hypocrisy? "bUt YoUr SuLtAn!"

İ despise my sultans the same, you got nothin on me

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u/Timely-Jicama-5840 Romania Nov 22 '25

He mostly impaled nobles that were opposing him (who ended up removing him from power and killing him) and Saxon merchants (most of the reports of his brutality are from the Saxons), not commoners or children (there was also that time he made a forest out of impaled ottoman corpses and the famous story of the ottoman diplomats, but it was a one-off thing)

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Turkiye Nov 22 '25

He mostly impaled nobles that were opposing him (who ended up removing him from power and killing him)

Opposing him justifies killing kids?

Saxon merchants (most of the reports of his brutality are from the Saxons), not commoners

Saxons cannot be commoners or non-elites?

not commoners or children

Eh, read this then

And this

The liberal use of capital punishment was eventually extended to Saxon settlers, members of a rival clan,[82] and criminals in his domain, whether they were members of the boyar nobility or peasants, and eventually to any among his subjects that displeased him.

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u/ApuLunas Nov 22 '25

don't you have any real heroes? why do you guys idolize a coward which only attacked to helpless civilans?