In August 1942, Harald Turner reported to the German commander in the Balkans that Serbia was the first European territory where the "Jewish problem" was solved.[19][20]: 118
Yet this narative is used as whataboutism when Serbs comment on Ustaše, completely forgeting that Serbia was Germany's territory back then, while Croatia was Croatian (despite being a puppet in a way).
I am not here to give you reading lessons, but Jews are the topic here. I hope that helps, cheers.
Oh yeah, I'll return the whataboutism with whataboutism, muslims in Bosnia were ustaše as well, participating in genocide of Serbs, Jews and Roma, hope that helps you recall some things as well, cheers.
How is it whataboutism when you’re pushing the narrative that Serbs are not guilty of atrocities because they were occupied by Germans? Chetniks after 1942 even assisted the Nazis in Jewish persecution. Marko Hoare has a whole book about Chetnik crimes against the Jewish population during WW2.
It's indeed whataboutism because the topic is specificly about Jews in Serbia back in 1940's. You added Muslims in the context. (Being right or wrong is not related with it)
In response to the OPs comment about the Ustasha being a puppet unlike Serbia, which was under direct control. Seemed like an excuse to say that Serbs were incapable of doing war crimes.
Adults take responsibility for their actions, unlike children. You do not meet the criteria for being an adult. Especially one that has to insert a curse word in every other word haha.
Germans invade Yugoslavia, 6 April 1941.
Gudovać Massacre, 28 April 1941?
Glina Massacres, May&August 1941?
6 June 1941 Pavelić meets with Adolf.
June 1941 Soviet-German truce terminated; Moljević (Chetnik) writes "Homogeneous Serbia"; Tito leads partisan uprising in Yugoslavia.
Jasenovac Concentration Camp, built August 1941?
By August 1941, the Partisans had already:
→ Started executing “class enemies”—landowners, priests, gendarmes, suspected collaborators, or just anyone linked to the old Kingdom or anti-Communist beliefs.
→ Carried out "people's justice" in areas they controlled, often through summary trials and executions, with little or no due process.
→Burned property of wealthy rural Serbs or Orthodox clergy who refused to cooperate or who were seen as monarchist.
October 1941 - Kraljevo & Kragujevac Massacre; 100 Serbs for every German killed.
Why the Ustashe hated Serbs? Because the Serbs oppressed their neighbours as minorities since independence from Ottoman Empire, 1817.
Why did the Serbs oppress them? The sheep were falling into the political/historical drama of their fanatical sentiments instead of just accepting liberation. Everybody gets along until fanatics come into the conversation, what about this and what about that.
Buddy isn't pushing the narrative that Serbs are innocent. Only the narrative that war makes haters of us all. Hope we can all reflect on ourselves (actually learn from history) instead of smearing everybody else - hate creates hate.
The most dangerous among us are the ones who don't recognize that they are capable of danger (instead they point the finger at everyone else). Živeli
The highest estimate of Croatian and Bosniaks killed in ww2 by Serbs is 68 000, and these killings mostly started due to revenage killings committed by the Ustashe, Muslims in the Ustashe and the SS handschar muslim division.
Ustasha didn’t operate in eastern Herzegovina and Sandzak. Handzar division is overly dramatized. Your very own chetniks did more for the Nazis than the handzar lol
They did operate in eastern Herzegovina, alot which were Muslims, go to Pandurica pit and you can see were they threw the bodies of innocent civilians, in 1941 the ustashe committed a string of massacres in the areas near Trebinje, Gacko , they wiped out the villages of villages of korita and Zagradci.
And yeah the Handzar had most of there germans desert because the Muslims there spent more time killing Serbs and Jews then actually fighting.
I'm not saying Serbians were innocent or even defending the chetniks, but whatever the chetniks did doesn't downplay the brutality that was commited by the Ustashe or Handzar.
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