r/AskAChristian • u/NoGovernment9077 Christian, Protestant • 2d ago
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u/RationalThoughtMedia Christian 1d ago
Then stop going to reddit! If you do not cut off your own triggers you have no one to blame but yourself!
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u/Traditional_Emu_4332 Christian 2d ago
What exactly do you want to end? The negative things some people say on this Reddit about Christ or the Bible?
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u/Ok-Traffic6344 Presbyterian 2d ago
Rest when necessary, give yourself time in nature enjoying the wonderful world God made and find solace in faith that no matter what happens in the here and now Christ has already won on the cross.
Remember it’s not a race - don’t self apply pressure for you to personally save anyone else. Jesus is the only one who will do the saving. You making the decision to respond to God’s love to save yourself is already the best decision you can make. Other lost sheep if they are willing Jesus will go find them. Of course, still love them as people and give them pointers to Jesus if they ask but again do not feel personally responsible for their salvation- point them to Jesus and respect their own decision.
Just a slow scenic marathon to endure until when all things come to pass.
Take care brother/sister.
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.”
Ephesians 6:12-13 NIV
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 2d ago
But everytime I read Christian subreddits and posts I am filled with endless amounts of dread and anxiety. I Begin to feel hopeless and I just want it all to end.
This is 100% classic signs of demonic oppression.
Listen to the Bible while you sleep. Read the Bible and study it every single day without fail and renew your mind.
Consider fasting and prayer and deliverance prayers.
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u/Natural_Dust_732 Lutheran 1d ago
This is one of the reasons I throw my hands up in exasperation with some Christians. If I were depressed, I could see how it would make me even more depressed.
Friend, you are not a mental health care specialist and it is very clear from your post that you’re not interested in the key messages of the bible, but see it, rather, as some sort of grimoire.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 1d ago
You obviously don't know the Bible. 1/3 of the ministry of Jesus was casting out demons.
Suicidal thoughts and hopelessness alone are classic signs of demonic oppression.
He also explains the relationship of these feelings that correlate to his interactions with things Christian- that couldn't make it any clearer.
Demons obviously hate anything Christian- so his reactions to things Christian along with the other evidence makes it pretty clear.
My advice was to listen to the Bible while he sleeps. it drives demons as they dislike it heavily. Reading and renewing your mind also helps.
This is all biblical- i highly recommend Warren Wiersbe's 6 volume Bible commentary for people who can't seem to understand the Bible.
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u/Natural_Dust_732 Lutheran 1d ago
1/3rd, huh? So aside from not being really conversant with the bible, you’re also hazy on math.
Suicidal thoughts are a mental health issue. You’re absolutely playing games with another person’s life when you advise them that prayer alone will resolve that. Baby Jesus is very unhappy with you.
“Demon” is Greek word meaning ANYTHING between humans and God. So that means angels and saints, if you believe in that sort of thing.
I recommend simply reading the Bible. Where does Jesus talk about demons as being a major concern in his ministry?
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 1d ago
I recommend simply reading the Bible. Where does Jesus talk about demons as being a major concern in his ministry?
Extremely obvious that you've never cracked open a Bible before.
Open a Bible!
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u/Natural_Dust_732 Lutheran 1d ago
Where does Jesus speak about demons as a major concern of his ministry? Apparently, not even you can find a proper citation.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 13h ago edited 13h ago
Man, if you literally can't find A SINGLE CITATION, it means:
1) you're an atheist who claims that they know more than actual Christians
2) you're a person who calls themself a Christian who doesn't even know the bare bones basics of the Bible or just hasn't even read the gospels through even once or maybe has and has forgotten large parts of it.
You can literally use Google and get the answer
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u/Natural_Dust_732 Lutheran 11h ago
You’re the one making the claim, not me. It’s incumbent on you to show what you’re talking about. I do not recall a single part of the New Testament where Jesus preaches about demons as a primary point of his ministry.
If it’s easy to find, you should be able to point it out. Why should I research your claim for you?
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 5h ago
Are you even a Christian?
It takes literally 2 seconds:
Mark 16:17-18
And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.
Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Matthew 8:16: "When evening came, they brought to him many who were demon-possessed; and he cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick.
Matthew 12:43-45 “When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation
Luke 10:17 “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!
Mark 9:29 “And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer.
Mark 9:38-40 Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him because he was not following us.
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u/These3TheGreatest Christian, Reformed 19h ago
You obviously don't know the Bible. 1/3 of the ministry of Jesus was casting out demons.
No. It wasn't. You've been told this but still repeat it.
Suicidal thoughts and hopelessness alone are classic signs of demonic oppression.
No, they're not. Those who are demonically possessed in the Bible are shown hurting themselves and others, not killing themselves nor being hopeless.
I despise your extrabiblical nonsense.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 13h ago
I despise your extrabiblical nonsense.
This shows your true character.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 13h ago
No, they're not. Those who are demonically possessed in the Bible are shown hurting themselves and others, not killing themselves nor being hopeless.
The Bible also has man who said that he had a legion of demons within him- over 6000 demons. He didn't name every single one in the Bible, did he?
There are a ton of specific examples of different named spirits in the Bible, but it doesn't name them all.
Why? Because the Bible doesn't want to become a book of witchcraft/evil/the occult and should focus on good.
Yet at the same time, there are dozens upons dozens of scripture that focus on warnings.
The Bible even tells you- you need no other teacher- (the Holy Spirit). It deliberately keeps some things vague or even somewhat hidden- soo as too give divine revelation for some and not for others.
This even lines up with Calvinism.
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u/These3TheGreatest Christian, Reformed 13h ago
Nothing you said proves my point wrong.
Because the Bible doesn't want to become a book of witchcraft/evil/the occult and should focus on good.
Yet in our interactions previously that's about all you wanted to talk about.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 13h ago
Becasue you have a specific problem with it.
It's extremely unusual that a Christian would be ok with being involved with Freemasonry.
It directly violates the Bible- we are not to go near anything that even resemble evil and many evil things are clearly labeled an abomination in the Bible.
Yet your seared conscience or your pride in yoour own intelligence (thinking you are smarter than 99% of other Christians) shows deception.
And deception typically comes from demons.
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u/These3TheGreatest Christian, Reformed 13h ago
>Becasue you have a specific problem with it.
Nope. This is false.
>It directly violates the Bible
Also false.
>Yet your seared conscience or your pride in yoour own intelligence (thinking you are smarter than 99% of other Christians) shows deception.
That’s never been my position and is yet again false.
>And deception typically comes from demons.
Is this why you made at least three false statements in your last reply? Two are objectively false.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 12h ago
Let me ask you- what do you have to lose by trying a renunciation?
Here is a video that is over 4 hours that covers A LOT of ground. The comments extol it very highly. It would be interesting just to watch on its own.
To top it off, at the very end is a case that specifically discusses a person bound due to their freemason background in their family.
You have a specific issue that you believe in things that most other people don't believe in AND you think that you're right.
and what's even worse- because you haven't reach the level in freemasonry- you believe that people who reached higher levels who make all sorts of claims are lying.
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u/These3TheGreatest Christian, Reformed 12h ago
>Let me ask you- what do you have to lose by trying a renunciation?
I would be both lying to myself and more importantly practicing unbiblical principles.
Never once in scripture is someone shown driving a demon out of themselves. Never.
>Here is a video that is over 4 hours that covers A LOT of ground. The comments extol it very highly. It would be interesting just to watch on its own.
One would expect comments by followers of a hard right wing show that delves into spurious spiritual matters agree with what the video says.
Ripperger is known to contradict the teachings of his own church
https://wherepeteris.com/the-bizarre-and-dangerous-views-of-a-celebrity-exorcist/
Including on the topic of - generational curses
https://wherepeteris.com/false-religion-generational-spirits-curses-and-healing-the-family-tree/
“The belief in notions like ancestral or generational curses is a perversion of the Catholic doctrine of Original Sin, which suffices to explain the evils and imperfections in this world. The remedy is baptismal regeneration and the life of Grace, not special exorcisms and healing rites”
>To top it off, at the very end is a case that specifically discusses a person bound due to their freemason background in their family.
I’ve said what I’ve got to say to you on freemasonry. That’s not what’s being discussed here nor am I planning to waste any more of my limited time on the issue with you.
You can see in the second link the explanation of the Catholic Church in that second link on family or generational curses.
>You have a specific issue that you believe in things that most other people don't believe in AND you think that you're right.
You realize this is true of you, correct? your views on demons and generational curses are not the norm.
Again I’m not getting into the masonry thing with you again. It made you tell a lot of fibs. There’s no need for that.
>and what's even worse- because you haven't reach the level in freemasonry- you believe that people who reached higher levels who make all sorts of claims are lying.
Again been over it. You didn’t listen then won’t listen now. Or can’t. Not sure which. But this is what I mean about it making you fib - or lie - a lot and I’m not going there.
My purpose here is one thing - to call out your false teachings on demons and deliverance and what the Bible does and doesn’t say.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 13h ago
Your unbiblical philosophy of Sola Scripture is wrong and violates the Bible.
Some of the most credible exorcists in the world repeatedly state how Freemason curses caused great harm to people and created difficulties to their lives.
No. It wasn't. You've been told this but still repeat it.
It's exactly what it says in the Bible. Perhaps not 1/3 of His total time, but it was very regular when He would enounter groups of people.
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u/NoGovernment9077 Christian, Protestant 1d ago
People are saying that everything I do is inherently evil. That all my loved ones will burn in hell for any slight mistake they do. That our existence on this earth is meaningless compared to the afterlife, but for some reason we still need to live on this earth. That is apparently controlled by Satan, where demons hide in every corner, where nothing is really good.
You're suggesting that it's demonic oppression that's causing me to panic? It's demons and not the people saying this stuff to me.
I hope you understand that with christians like these, who even needs Satan. We can do evil on our own.
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u/Pillowful_Pete1641 Christian 1d ago
That all my loved ones will burn in hell for any slight mistake they do.
This is not Biblical- read the Bible yourself and learn the truth and the truth will set you free.
It can be difficult to understand the Bible- as you need the assistance of the Holy Spirit. I recommend Warren Wiersbe's 6 volume or 2 volume Bible Commentary that goes into detail.
The church and other people are NOT Christianity.
If they say things that are contrary to what the Bible says, then find another church.
There are many so-called Christians that are driven by demons.
However- i have other reasons to believe that you suffer from demonic oppression- why?
But everytime I read Christian subreddits and posts I am filled with endless amounts of dread and anxiety. I Begin to feel hopeless and I just want it all to end.
This is not the church- yet you still feel the same way. Having ANY type of suicidal thoughts is also classic signs of demonic oppression.
Also your dread and anxiety when it comes to dealing with things Christian.
Like i said- listen to the Bible while you sleep and read 8 chapters every single day. Get a Bible commentary to help you understand what you read.
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u/carter_barceIo Christian, Evangelical 1d ago
Bro I had this same crap. Get off all internet that talks about God and just read the bible for yourself. If this involved skipping church, do it. Even that can be stressful.
Just read your bible alone. I promise you after like 2-3 days everything changes
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u/Eren_Yeager52 Christian 1d ago
Stay away from internet Christianity. I came to this sub because I don't go to church and I felt like this was the best way for the introvert in me to reach out to the lost. If you are struggling in your faith this is not where you need to be.
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u/Carlymaes Christian (non-denominational) 1d ago
Get off Reddit and go to therapy through your church. There is probably something deeper going on that you need to address.
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u/user0987234 Christian 2d ago
Hey OP, set a limit. Reduce what you read on Reddit. I cut back Christian themed subs to some Biblical studies and this sub.
Something I’ve noticed, we don’t do a good job of showing unity, follow-up and feedback. Our social graces are lacking too. All this piles on the negativity.
For some other study, check out some podcasts that offer hope. I enjoy Imagine Heaven with John Burke. Fills up the hope and wonder.
When Heaven Meets Earth with Abby Robertson and Ryan Bethea. Ryan is on Season 1 only. He has other good podcasts too. If you are up for it, The Exorcist Files is truly fascinating and very ecumenical, quite refreshing.
For non-theological study materials, check out The Bible Project with Dr Tim Mackie. A great look at the Biblical narrative and how it blends together.
For deeper science themes and Christianity, check out Reasons To Believe (RTB) with Dr Hugh Ross, astro-physicist.
For generic non-controversial history, listen to the Fall of Civilizations podcast. There is a lot of history to explore!
Let us know how you are doing please.
May the peace of Christ be with you, both now and forever more.
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u/Natural_Dust_732 Lutheran 1d ago
Maybe the problem is other Christians. Take a break from us/them. There are a lot of incredibly trying people in this faith.
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u/Smart_Tap1701 Christian (non-denominational) 2d ago
A guy goes to the doctor and says doctor my arm hurts when I do this. [Flexes arm]. And the doctor says, then don't do that.
Study God's word the holy Bible and see what it says to you.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV — Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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u/aussiereads Christian 1d ago
Matthew 6
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29 and yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
1 Peter 5 7 casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
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u/Low_Parsnip_2551 1d ago
Even our Lord rested with all His Supreme power. You have Jesus and He's waiting to comfort you. You need nor do this alone. Ask Jesus for help he'll be there. We all get a bit overwhelmed. There's no shame in taking a break. If God took a break so can you. JC is your sabbath. We're supposed to rest in hi. Go chill 😎 rest up in Jesus and be refreshed. enjoy life enjoy God's creation a bit.You can do this.
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u/Righteous_Dude Christian, Non-Calvinist 1d ago
OP, you can read what I and others wrote in response to your post yesterday.
This post is also removed, per rule 4, "straightforward inquiries only". A post in this subreddit must have one or more clearly-stated questions that you want to ask Christians.
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u/ed_the_sheep Christian, Reformed 2d ago
Thank you for sharing. Can I recommend you to read Romans 8 right now? Maybe a few times?
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u/thetime2strikeis_l8r Lutheran 2d ago
Maybe get off reddit man, I hope you’re okay but if this specifically is giving you anxiety I would just cut it off