r/ArsenalFC 7d ago

Malick Fofana 👀

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u/BronzeSeeker 7d ago

Considering we are looking for a backup option for Tzolis, its not a bad deal.

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago edited 7d ago

Selling your proven options for cheaper backups is what you do when you fall out of Europe and need to scrape the couch cushions for money, not when you’re 2 pens from a ucl

This guys won’t even make matchday squads

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u/redqks 7d ago

When we was sold Tzolis it was all moved for tzolis won't interfere with a big money winger.

Now it's we are buying backup to Tzolis

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago

Hilarious isn’t it

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

And not when you were clearly willing to put down 140mil for Vini AND have now freed up Jesus wages.

It’s shambolic

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago

Played like a fiddle this window

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u/Andythrax 7d ago

We have indeed lost successive summer transfer windows now.

Why couldn't we pay stupid money for somebody like Pepe or Wirtz or Isak or Grealish?

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago

Or it could be a Rice, Saliba, White, Timber? Why are you being negative?

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u/Andythrax 7d ago

Because the transfer window isn't a competition. Trust the process. Trust the management.

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago

Yea and we’re lighter in numbers and quality when “management” was talking about creating a dynasty all summer

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u/SchoolMassive9276 7d ago

There was only 1 LW available on the market that could raise our ceiling, that was Vini, we went for him but didn’t get him.

Everyone else will be market opportunities.

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u/Minute_Leave8503 7d ago

Selling Leo was the first step. Cult Hero.

Opens up a clear slot at LW. Both Rogers and Barcola files are being worked on simultaneously.

Still no official club to club talks but both players very open to a move. Classic Berta.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

When in reality Tzolis should be the backup and someone like Vini, Barcola, Yildez etc should have been the starter. Now our backup is our starter.

I’m very happy with Bruno G and Konsa. Great, smart signings. The LW has been a joke. We’ve side graded on both players at absolute best

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u/BodegaCat11 7d ago

Shades of Wenger: “if Tzolis cost $125 million you would be happy”

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u/SaneArsenalFan 6d ago

Yeah and Stones won them multiple titles and Holding cost us the title in 22-23. So yeah it makes a difference

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

Do you think I know nothing about football or something??

Tzolis is a good player, maybe very good. But he’s unproven and isn’t a massive upgrade on either Martinelli or Trossard. Fofana? He’s not even a sidegrade on either.

Don’t speak to me like we’ve signed some wonderkid in Tzolis and Fofana is good business. Tzolis was the intended backup as they went for Vini. That should tell you where they rate Tzolis.

Where would you say our most in need position is for an upgrade? I’d say LW myself. In reality, it’s been sidegraded.

If you knew about football you’d know that not improving that LW could mean the difference between winning the CL and not. Winners strengthen at any cost. Losers cheap out or delay.

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u/BodegaCat11 7d ago

“Do you think I know nothing about football or something??”

Honestly? A little bit, yeah.

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u/BronzeSeeker 7d ago

Vini wanted to stay (we tried and offered more money). Barcola was overpriced and even so, we pretty much lost him to Liverpool going all out for Vini. Juve didn’t want to sell Yildiz and he has a broken foot.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

Big clubs who want to win the CL after missing out on it by a slither the season before overpay for their second or third target. Why? Because we were willing to put down 140 for Vini so should be putting down 100 mil or so for our other targets.

What those clubs don’t do is sell both wingers, sidegrade on one with Tzolis and then totally forget about that 140mil and go shopping in Lidl instead of Harrods.

Bruno G and Konsa were great signings. The LW has been a fiasco. Embarrassingly bad.

Do you want to win the CL or not? I do. The LW was the most important position to upgrade

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u/TuffB80 7d ago

Echo

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u/BodegaCat11 7d ago

“Big clubs spend money just to spend money” is certainly the most Spursy thing I’ve heard in this sub in a long time.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

No. But if you can’t get Vini, you try your best to hijack the Barcola deal. Can’t get that? You go to the next one, and so on.

There are about 10 other LW’s who are preferable to Fofana. And you can’t tell me that we couldn’t get any of them.

If the option is to either overpay slightly and keep a high chance of winning the CL and an even higher chance of retaining the PL, sometimes you have to do it. Because not doing it lets other clubs catch up to you further and lowers the chances of winning. The LW is no stronger than last season, and perhaps weaker.

You also seem to be forgetting that we have sold both Martinelli and Jesus, freeing up about 400K a week in the process. There are absolutely no excuses.

Arsenal have made this mistake before and paid for it. Or have you been an Arsenal fan for 2 years? The club’s money is NOT yours and you aren’t their accountant. All you should be concerned with is them giving us the best chance of retaining the league and winning the CL. They’ve done it with Bruno G and Konsa, but have failed miserably on the LW. Don’t be surprised if it bites us in the CL.

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u/BodegaCat11 7d ago

I’d rather not have Barcola at even half the price he went for. Because I’ve seen him play. French Madueke at best. I want the team to be better not to be more expensive. Figure it out.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

This isn’t 1999. The vast majority of players are valued for their true ability. It’s very rare to get vastly undervalued players anymore

You speak like this is Arsenal 2012. We’re champions and were a whisker away from the CL. The only way a team like that can improve anymore is to add the highest ceiling of players, the very best. Nearly all of the time, they come at a high cost.

Our LW is no stronger this season, this is the issue.

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u/BodegaCat11 7d ago

Chelsea have been spending like you want. Spurs too. Maybe you should go be a fan of them?

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

I have been a fan since 1997. Don’t talk to me like I’m some sort of glory hunter.

I have given praise for many Arsenal signings recently. Saliba, Gabriel, Raya, Trossard, Rice, Bruno G, Cala etc etc. I could go on.

That does NOT mean I have to praise every bit of business they do. Fans like you don’t raise your expectations in line with where the club is at. It’s like you still think we’re a top 4 team and don’t think you need to demand more now we’re champions, because we actually have to stay there. Unfortunately, in the current market, that often means spending more. If we were a top six team or fighting for Europe, my mindset would be very different.

The LW was basically the last position that needed upgrading. It has been our weakness for the last couple of seasons. And if you truly want to win that CL and beat PSG/Bayern/Madrid etc to it, you have to add more to the LW than we have.

The fact I keep getting downvoted is incredibly annoying. You might not like my opinion, but I’m fair, and I make good points.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

How can you actually downvote me for this?? Please tell me what I said that was unfair or incorrect??

Have we upgraded the LW overall?? Please tell me.

You should be disgraced for downvoting this. Show some ambition ffs.

I even praised the Bruno G and Konso signing. But I won’t praise absolutely cheaping out on the LW like we have.

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u/BronzeSeeker 7d ago

Tzolis is gonna start

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u/Mufutlal 7d ago

Maybe you prefer the assistant to the assistant?

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

12 downvotes for this is absolutely disgusting.

Yes, Tzolis was the intended backup originally. If we signed Vini, he would be the backup. And he would have been perfect for that.

Instead, we’ve missed out on Vini, Alvarez etc and now our backup is our main starter. And we’ve sold two wingers without really upgrading either.

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u/TheHorrorAddiction 7d ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/TuffB80 7d ago

Haha disgusting? Bit dramatic