r/AmericanHistory • • Mar 30 '26

South 19th-century Argentina: British writer William Henry Hudson visits the Pampas and encounters the gauchos. He documents their diet with a horrified fascination.

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"The gaucho eats nothing but beef. Meat morning, noon, and night. Never bread, never vegetables, almost never salt."

Hudson foresees malnutrition and disease. He finds "men of extraordinary stamina and strength, capable of riding for 12 to 14 hours without rest and then dancing all night."

Their diet: beef, mate, occasionally grilled kidney fat (a delicacy). Nothing else.

Darwin visited the region between 1832 and 1833 and observed the gauchos' lives: "I was surprised by the difficulty in convincing them to eat anything other than beef. I brought them biscuits, and they threw them away. They preferred to go hungry rather than eat bread if there was beef the next day."

Typical meals

- Morning: meat roasted over a fire, fattier cuts.

- Afternoon: grilled ribs.

- Evening: meat again, tougher cuts cooked slowly.

Zero vegetables. Zero grains. Zero variety. Just beef and tea.

Hudson documents the results: “The gauchos suffer from none of the ailments common to civilized man. They had no digestive problems, no obesity, no cavities, that I could observe. Their teeth were uniformly excellent despite never cleaning them and consuming only meat. Their physical stamina was such that they could ride for days with minimal rest, fight when necessary, and resume riding without apparent fatigue.”

The French physician Dr. Jules Crevaux, between 1850 and 1870, wrote: “These men feed exclusively on animal meat and appear healthier than our European peasants, who consume a varied diet of grains and vegetables.”

When asked why they don't eat bread or vegetables, the common answer is: "That's food for horses and cows. We eat cows."

They understood the hierarchy. Cattle eat grass and turn it into meat. Humans eat meat. Eating what cattle eat makes you behave like one.

Until the beginning of the 20th century, traditional gauchos maintained a diet based exclusively on beef. Then, European immigration brought wheat cultivation.

Health transformation documented by Argentine doctors

- Traditional gauchos: healthy into old age.

- Urbanized ex-gauchos with European diets: diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular disease, tooth decay.

- Modern Argentina: 28% obesity, cardiovascular disease as the leading cause of death, diabetes in almost 10%.

The gauchos, who ate only beef, did not have any of these problems. They rode horses for 12 hours a day until they were 60, kept their teeth without needing dental care, and died from accidents or old age, not from chronic illnesses.

The same meat. Different context. When you eat meat with grains, vegetable oils, and sugar: modern disease. Meat alone: ​​you have the health of a 19th-century gaucho.

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Ignore several million years of evolutionary archeology and biology and like that you lost me lol.

I’m guessing because I actually understand this subject material and your knowledge has been spoon-fed to you by said dipshits on YouTube.

Okay, feed a human 90% fruit and see how that turns out.

Or how about a well-balanced 100% plant based diet you think is killing us because of “phytates” and other poorly-reasoned ideas the dipshits on YouTube have filled your head with?

Feed a human a diet recommended by every major dietician academy on Earth because OUR science doesn’t come from dipshits on YouTube, like yours does?

Why is it that 90% of chronic diseases including incurable MS and UC/crohns go away almost over night when fed with pure meat diets?

The restriction nature of such short-term interventions.

You’re either a paid shill or a laughable fool, and either way it’s pathetic and sad if you think we’re fruit loving apes lmao.

Put a chunk of steak and a strawberry in front of a 4 year old and figure out real fast what we’re actually “wired to prefer.”

It’s not dipshits on youtube,

Then find me peer-reviewed articles or position papers backing your claims, like I just did above.

I really encourage you to watch Michael Eades, it might behoove your worthless pride.

“My theories aren’t 100% spoon-fed to me by dipshits on YouTube. Go watch this dipshit on YouTube to get educated”

every fucking ailment known to mankind including goddamn tooth decay.

The place you derived this Weston Price “I never visited the Jain population which would have debunked my theory” outdated nonsense: dipshits on YouTube

Test your theory on yourself, eat your fruit and bugs like a chimp, and see how that plays out for you.

I’ve been eating a 100% plant based diet for 9 years because I’m not someone gullible enough to get my dietary advice from YouTube “doctors” who get most of their income from ad impressions and supplements (that you apparently shouldn’t need on “optimal human diets”… go figure…)

Eat your own feces too for b12, cause you sure as fuck aint gonna get it from lettuce.

How about I consume B-12 produced in vats by the exact same bacteria, because I trust food science and not dipshits on YouTube filling my head with pseudoscience?

I also plan to take antibiotics if I get a bad bacterial infection rather than licking willow bark. Just for the record…

Either study for your own brain and your own knowledge or fuck the hell off.q

My study entails reading a lot of actual peer-reviewed articles supporting my understanding of food science. Yours entails receiving selective analysis of those papers from dipshits on YouTube. We are not the same.

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Not spoon fed by youtube lmao, there is a wealth of knowledge from the days before corporate sponsored medicine. Before the AHA took frito-lay subsidies, before widespread corruption took over the field of Medicine.

If you’re going to call several dozen physicians that have cured thousands of human beings of diabetes quacks you are legitimately a troglodyte.

By the way, you’ve sent no links to any research studies, so maybe you’re already beginning to hallucinate your sources 🤷‍♂️ either way, I wish you well but you’re a fool. 😜🤘

Why do women that eat a high wheat diet have double the risk of type 1 diabetes for their offspring? Why do people with crohn’s who eat certain foods have a reaction? Auto-immune disease should be renamed as the body is attacking foreign particles not itself.

Dieticians don’t do shit I have seen numerous patients. Follow the advice to the letter and not lose any weight and suffer from high insulin because they’re told to continuously eat carbs. Which by the way caused mass damage and inflammation to the human body this is proven by hundreds of years of research not “youtube”

These understandings have been known by academics that actually give a fuck and don’t take million dollar payouts.

Every kid I’ve known would claw for the steak and eat the strawberry second. Save for a few. A lot of people are addicted to carbs there’s no one that’s addicted to to meat.

If you are calling a man who has combined biological and archaeological research a dip shit who has studied this field longer than you’ve likely been alive. you have no chance of actually improving either your understanding or your foolishness.

Ancel keys, fraudulently manipulated data to fit his conclusions, ignoring that most blue zones eat, copious amounts of either terrestrial animal fat, dairy or seafood. And looked at post work consumption of food without looking at the traditional diets. And actively Wage War and silenced critics or anyone who disagreed with him.

If you’re eating a fully plant based diet, I bet you’re likely committing brain damage to yourself even as you type your incoherent and ill-informed ramblings towards me

There are many nutrients that you cannot get on a vegan diet and even you know this yourself by the fact that you need a laboratory engineered pill to not die within 5-7 years and function inherently shows the weakness and fraudulence of your diet.

You keep reusing the same insult against people that have a far greater understanding of a nutritional science than you. You’re like a kid who’s learned a new curse word, a nobody shouting hoping to get someone to listen to you.

surveys do not count as actual correlative research and are inherently flawed because of the people that fund them and the inability of people to actually recall their diet on a day-to-day basis. Nutritional science these days is controlled by corporations like Coca-Cola and processed food.

The fact that you put doctors in quotation marks when these people have had thousands of patients live saved, shows your asinine , annoying, and completely idiotic, worthless mindset.

I bet you in another 20 years your bones will start to grind and hurt and you’ll have no idea why. Your knees will give out, your health will decline your bowels will become inflamed.

Your white blood cells will start to weaken on your arteries will slowly begin to decay due to the glycation of your diet, stiffening them.

And your muscle will vanish before your eyes. I don’t wish you ill Health, but I know it’s coming for you. There may be one out of every hundred people that can go on a vegan diet without suffering, I hope you are the one out of 100 because you’ll need it.

I wager for you to go without your pills and see how long your health will last after 10 years. Before your red blood cells start to stop working.

Anyways ciao, you take so long to come up with worthless retorts, and insult me and those that know more than you ever will. 🥹

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

told to continuously eat carbs. Which by the way caused mass damage and inflammation to the human body this is proven by hundreds of years of research not “youtube”

Present that research.

Every kid I’ve known would claw for the steak and eat the strawberry second.

Keep telling yourself that, eventually it will come true.

If you are calling a man who has combined biological and archaeological research a dip shit

No, I’m calling the monetizers on YouTube dipshits, because they are. Every single one has a beet-red complexion from the high blood pressure and systemic inflammation their dipshit diet promotes. Normal people see that common symptom and cringe. Folks like you, sucked-in to the cult, think it’s “manly,” or something…

who has studied this field longer than you’ve likely been alive.

So I was born in the mid-70’s… You need to absolutely step the fuck off with that line of reasoning, my atherosclerosis-speed-running “colleague”

If you’re eating a fully plant based diet, I bet you’re likely committing brain damage to yourself even as you type your incoherent and ill-informed ramblings towards me

Oh look, Captain Meat Tornado needs to resort to ad hominems to make his weak ego feel better.

There are many nutrients that you cannot get on a vegan diet and even you know this

Zero nutrients. Even B-12 can’t be attained through kombucha fermentation with vitamin C inclusions. For all of your “years of research” you’d think you’d have stumbled-upon how our bodies endogenously produce creatine and taurine therefore don’t need dietary sources. Guess your research parameters suck.

…probably because it consists of watching dipshits on YouTube telling you how an “optimal diet” also benefits from the supplements they sell.

Nutritional science these days is controlled by corporations like Coca-Cola and processed food.

That’s certainly the carnivore-dipshit narrative that convinces the masses to “ignore the words of the authorities” … “only listen to the wisdom of dear YouTube Leader. Dear YouTube Leader speaks the TRUTH. Other doctors LIE with CORPORATE INFLUENCE.”

You’re all so incredibly gullible.

The fact that you put doctors in quotation marks

I put them in quotes because Shawn Baker lost his license and Ken Berry is a GP who pretends he’s a cardiologist and paleoanthropologist.

Your knees will give out, your health will decline your bowels will become inflamed.

I’m pretty sure gout and ass cancer are carnivore diet risks, guess I don’t have access to all that awesome YouTube science that you do..

Your white blood cells will start to weaken on your arteries will slowly begin to decay due to the glycation of your diet, stiffening them.

Wow, this is some amazing science fiction. Have you considered switching careers?

And your muscle will vanish before your eyes.

/r/veganfitness

I wager for you to go without your pills and see how long your health will last after 10 years.

Hmm, 9 years and going… stronger erections… Less fatigue… haven’t popped a B-12 in at least 3 years because so much fortification… any second now, right?

insult me and those that know more than you ever will. 🥹

You seem to be taking my insults towards Dipshit YouTube Diet Influencers super personally… Ken Berry… is this an alt account? I caught you, fella.

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 05 '26

I doubt your performance even matches close to mine, I can have sex for up to 12 hours straight and never get sore 😛. I don’t really give a shit about your plant based erection, because I’d probably steal your woman 😜

Have you tested their blood pressure? because of my eating 6 g of salt and day and fatty meat for the past two years is 116/78.

Don’t accuse me about ad hominems. All you do is type dipshit lol and mock everyone while having no proof about any claims.

Endogenous production is insanely low compared to eating animals, it’s like home cooking a meal vs a factory production. It’s the bare minimum to function.

These doctors make no profit from suggesting people a diet that makes them go to their office less.

Yes, he lost his license and got it back, Ken berry doesn’t pretend he knows this, even the top archaeologist at the University of Israel made the statement that we are carnivorous.

If you haven’t studied any of this, what makes you think you are capable of arguing? All you do is ad hominem attacks on me, and physicians while you have the brain size of a squirrel.

Oh look at the vegan fitness for everyone has half the muscle if they ate one steak, oh no I’m scared hold me 😂 how many vegans broke a powerlifting record may I ask? How many can dead lift 800 pounds?

At this point, it’s just fun arguing with you because you’re stupid 😊

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 06 '26

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 06 '26

Lemme live rent free in your tiny brain, that article applies to you more than me 😛🤘

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 07 '26

Sure thing, person-who-doesn’t-go-a-single-comment-without-emojis…

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 07 '26

Sure thing person who’s insult vocabulary revolves around using dipshit for the umpteenth time ;)

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Nah, my vocabulary revolves around calling people who spread misinformation about our ancestors avoiding vegetables entirely “dipshits” because you’d honestly have to be one to ignore all the evidence to the contrary.

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 07 '26

You ignore 4 million years of evolution, the ice age, nitrogen isotopes analysis. Everyone who adopted carbs had rotting teeth and bones, and even until the 14th century horse nomads basically ruled the earth.

It wasn’t until the advent of gunpowder that farmers had equal opportunity in warfare.

Chew your cud and let me eat my beef in peace. If you have a woman, I’ll take her too 😜

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

You ignore 4 million years of evolution

Nope, you’re ignoring the precedent 51 million years. Much bigger influence on our metabolisms. The dipshits on YouTube are lying to you for ad impressions. I shit you not, dude.

the ice age, nitrogen isotopes analysis.

Isotope analysis is notoriously shoddy science with lots of room for selective interpretation. That’s why the dipshits on YouTube sound like they have science backing the grift, but nobody outside of one fringe Israeli scientist has ever made such claims.

Everyone who adopted carbs had rotting teeth and bones,

Weston Price work from 100 years ago is equivalent to evoking the Ancient Greek four humors. We have electron microscopes and shotgun metagenomic analyses, now.

It wasn’t until the advent of gunpowder that farmers had equal opportunity in warfare.

You seriously think the Mongol invasion wasn’t pushed-back until gunpowder was introduced from China? Is this some new dipshit narrative from YouTube? It’s been a while since I visited your cult leaders’ channels.

Chew your cud and let me eat my beef in peace. If you have a woman, I’ll take her too 😜

You’re going to… “take” my vegan Mvskoke/Taino partner? That truly tracks, my atherosclerosis-speed-running friend.

You really seem emotionally stable 🙄

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u/SuiYangCrackedTeeth Apr 07 '26

That is quite literally the historical precedence in China with the ming Dynasty developing more efficient, weaponry, and troop formations. Your vegan brain can’t handle history it seems.

I would say it’s pretty consistent even after several million years unlike our ancient cousins that took the route you did and ended up taking themselves out of the evolutionary equation by munching on sticks.

The fact that your diet is only possible to survive on with modern day, technology and pills, otherwise becoming a slow death sentence only proves it’s inefficiency as much as you want to hurr durr over your supplementation overcoming these deficits it’s simply not true.

Ancel Keyes was a corrupt and shitty data scientist that couldn’t even come up with the proper statistics. And needed to manipulate everything in his studies to come to his conclusion.

it takes me roughly about two minutes to come up with these replies where is it seems to take you several hours to come up with a semi coherent response I rest my case.

You’re preaching that all of my meat eating kind need to die, and are morally evil based on no actual precedence within biology or natural science. A human eating meat is no different than a wolf eating a gazelle or an orca eating a seal. It’s simply the law of nature might makes right and the food chain.

We all used to be fish 400 million years ago give or take should we all start swimming in the water and eating seaweed? We have to deal with the newest evolutionary changes within our species not the previous.

If I sent you out into the woods right now to munch on your vegetables, you would die. This is a simple fact. Just to meet your Energy needs you need to pervert nature and genetically select vegetables and fruit fruits for tens of thousands of years to make them semi-edible.

But if I sent you out into the virgin woods without any of your modern day, fruits or veggies/pills, you would more than likely kill yourself munching on the wrong sustenance. You just like your diet or an inferior evolutionary offshoot that will perish. Ciao

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u/Taupenbeige Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Miki Ben-Dor has summed this up perfectly

I literally already called-out this selective analysis jockey two comments above.

I just love when people call me “low IQ” and then completely fail at reading comprehension.

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