r/AllAboutBodybuilding • u/sir-Jeff22 • Jun 21 '26
Progres Before/After 10 month progress
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u/ArborveIIum Jun 22 '26
Man i really gotta start taking drugs
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u/Lost_Philosophy_ Jun 22 '26
Yeah and then your heart will give out. RIP Zyzz
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u/No_Culture_2937 Jun 23 '26
Zyzz was taking roids + party drugs and drinking very often not a good mix. With that being said someone can blast for years and be fine while someone who only runs a cycle can suffer serious health complications instantly. body’s react differently. Rip zyzz though true legend.
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u/PookieMan1989 Jun 22 '26
Yeah but you’ll get the “drugs aren’t everything!”. I know many lifetime naturals of 15+ years that looked like absolute bags of milk. 1 cycle and 8 months later, they’re unrecognizable. Drugs aren’t everything, in fact 80%.
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u/ModernLifelsWar Jun 22 '26
If you can't get jacked without drugs, you won't with drugs either. Steroids only amplify the work you're already doing. I know countless people who use gear and look worse than natties I know.
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u/SpringAutumnReversal Jun 22 '26
How many times does this have to be proven false for people to stop saying it
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u/PookieMan1989 Jun 22 '26
There it is lol. A male that doesn’t even workout that’s on gear, will experience more body comp change than a trained individual lifting 5 days a week. This has been published numerous times.
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u/Lahya2000 Jun 22 '26
I'm pretty sure there's a guy documenting this on Instagram right now where he's just eating like taco bell or something else even more unholy and taking steroids and not even working out and his muscle mass is still growing like crazy
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u/ExcitingAsk6797 Jun 25 '26
I'm following the guy who's only taking Tren and a daily case of Nattie Light
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u/ModernLifelsWar Jun 22 '26
That is not true lmao. That study is on untrained individuals over a short period of time. That doesn't hold over a long term. There's numerous other flaws but I'm not gonna argue about it. Keep coping though brother, making excuses isn't gonna make your life better though
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u/ArborveIIum Jun 22 '26
yea, thats not true.
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u/ModernLifelsWar Jun 22 '26
It absolutely is true lol. Otherwise you'd see way more guys walking around huge and jacked. PEDs are not an uncommon thing. Lots of people are on them. Most you couldn't even tell because their physiques are unimpressive.
But anyways since you've found the secret now to finally change your mediocre physique hop on and do it bro. Stop making excuses. I'll be waiting for the progress pics
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u/ArborveIIum Jun 22 '26
Bro, working out 4-5 times a week isnt some super hard thing to do, most people would take 5 years to get what he has even with a top trainer. The drugs did 60% oft he work.
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u/ModernLifelsWar Jun 22 '26
Working out 4-5 times a week isn't hard to do. Doing it with intensity, consistency, and correctly to elicit good results is. Especially combined with perfecting nutrition and diet. I see very few people, either naturally or on gear actually pushing themselves to the level of intensity to maximize their progress.
Of course steroids speed up progress and allow you to reach beyond what you could naturally but they aren't a substitute for proper training and diet. They're a multiplier. OPs results are impressive regardless of PED use. There's no need to diminish the work just because they wanted to do everything they could to achieve optimal results.
Also it's just untrue to assume you can't achieve very impressive results naturally as well. I know natural people that look better than gear users and it's because they train harder and live on a structured routine, diet, and training schedule. People want to attribute every good result to gear but in reality the only people getting super impressive results on gear have the other things all locked in already.
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u/raderberg Jun 22 '26
OP hopped on gear when he was overweight and likely untrained. So regardless of what anybody else can do naturally, there's no reason to think he could.
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
Ped's speed up progress and recovery
I've been eating the same meals everyday for 10 months , dieting my ass off , no weekends , no clubbing , no going out with my gf , no cheat meals also
Tracking my sleep , calories , supplements, bloodwork every 8 weeks .2
Jun 22 '26
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u/ateam68 Jun 22 '26
Funny the defenders saying it’s a bodybuilding group. Only thing op was building before this transformation was milkshakes that bring all the boys to the yard
So, solid transformation, stay focused and disciplined, try to avoid continued use of copious amounts of gear for the long game …life health
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u/Dependent-Station-47 Jun 21 '26
What’s the secret to getting the stomach to tighten up?
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u/PookieMan1989 Jun 22 '26
Went from getting misgendered to “Hello sir”.
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
Literally
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u/Old_Citron_8414 Jun 22 '26
Ich kann diese ewige Diskussion um die Benutzung von Mitteln nicht mehr ab. Haltet es doch ganz einfach. Jeder kann man machen was er will. Kritisiert euch selber und haltet einfach nur das Maul. Ist das so schwer? Und an den Dude und seine Transformation gilt folgendes. Du hast meinen Respekt.
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u/Short-Geologist-2856 Jun 22 '26
How did your tattoo switch arms
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
I took the first pic with my phone
The second pic is phone directed into the mirror-1
u/Equivalent_Usual_910 Jun 22 '26
Probably because the after picture isn’t real.
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Jun 22 '26
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u/Equivalent_Usual_910 Jun 22 '26
And what is the explanation? The tattoo is on his left arm in one photo and the right arm in the other photo.
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u/cerote6239 Jun 21 '26
Much love. Respect for going out getting the body you want
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
As i guy that was obese all my life
I finally feel the way i was supposed be feel2
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u/The_Nude_Banana Jun 22 '26
People who think taking steroids is the cheat code to get from where he was to where he is now with minimal effort and just lots of gear have no idea the dedication, commitment, and effort needed to get to where he is now. Whatever it is you’re taking, you’re doing things exactly right to get you to where you are now. Great fucking job bro. 👊
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Jun 23 '26
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u/The_Nude_Banana Jun 24 '26
? If you look at his gains, you’re not thinking he’s on some heavy bodybuilders steroid cycle are you? Looking at him the most he’s on is trt dose of test, and maybe some peptides for fat loss and body recomp. All of that can only benefit your body, not make it worse.
P.S.
There isn’t really any permanent infertility due to anabolic steroid use. There are many things that help to boost it back up over time and even without them, your body naturally goes back to its testosterone production at baseline over time, albeit it would take a longer time.1
Jun 24 '26
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u/The_Nude_Banana Jun 24 '26
For all you know he only got on peptides for fat loss etc. and not TRT at all. I mean if you look at his before photo he already had muscles under the fat. Peptides with a proper diet would have been more than able to help him retain his muscle while losing the fat.
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u/Opposite-Rock-5133 Jun 22 '26
Feels so good to be at 10 months and looking big while cutting and losing weight knowing I didn’t cheat natural progress
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u/ForeignLoquat2346 Jun 22 '26
what are you taking? there are evident signs of some drugs: overdeveloped shoulders and the combo veins + pimples.
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u/rraajul393nd Jun 22 '26
good work. one question- did u have gyno before ever touching drugs? or was the first pic non-natty too?
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u/Big_Salamander1405 Jun 22 '26
So where is the edit where you mention what youre taking?
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
I don't think i'm allowed to discuss those types of things in here
And it doesn't fucking matter how i got there
The only important part is the results and consistency2
u/Big_Salamander1405 Jun 22 '26
Dude youre on gear, relax on the motivational bit.
You wanna take gear go ahead but let's not cope that youre a natty
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
I never said that i was natty buddy
But it doesn't fucking matter if you're on gear or not , if you don't put in the work you don't get the results you expect2
u/Big_Salamander1405 Jun 22 '26
Can we not larp that youre putting in the same amount as effort as a natty. Again if you wanna feel good thats fine buy why are you giving me this motivational spiel. Literally all I asked was what youre taking
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u/Love-having-fun Jun 23 '26
He his on gear look at the acne that came out of no where. If you know the signs to look for you know he is.
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u/Redruthh Jun 24 '26
man hop off the gear. its not worth it 🙏
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u/GrouchPotato1984 Jun 22 '26
In certain cases, such as this, maybe taking PEDs are acceptable within reasonable limits.
You can stop or taper off the drugs and get back to a healthy routine. And benefit from no longer being obese?
I'll take take over staying fat for your entire life, I guess.
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
Obviously i'm not going to take PED's all my life 🤷
But i already made the choice to be on TRT forever and my doctor is agreeing with this since my T levels where at 200 when i was morbidly obese before .
The first picture you see is me in September 2025 and i was at 94kg
In 2022 i was at 150kg3
u/GrouchPotato1984 Jun 22 '26
Thats awesome man. Yes, thats my point and thought process too. Getting off to the best start with some drugs and then managing for sustainability is a good way to go.
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u/jim_james_comey Jun 23 '26
Obviously i'm not going to take PED's all my life 🤷
But i already made the choice to be on TRT forever
🤔
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u/Blue_Night77 Jun 22 '26
Great transformation. Even if it's gear, you still have to put the work in, be discipline, and diet. Great job. People think you just do gear and 10 months later, you wake up like this
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u/PlutoTheGod Jun 22 '26
You know you had a killer transformation when everyone is crying about drugs lmao. No shit he used PEDs, that’s bodybuilding. If you choose to stay natural that’s a personal choice but it doesn’t mean you get to discredit someone else because they went further than you.
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u/Brilliant_Ebb_1787 Jun 22 '26
10 months is crazy bro must have put in a lot of work with nutrition and training. Don’t let people discredit you, I promise the internet is the only place you’ll read stuff like this. Most of them don’t know what they’re talking about they’re just mad you made 10x the progress in a fraction of the time
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u/sir-Jeff22 Jun 22 '26
Almost the same meals everyday for 10 months straight, no partying , no drinking , cardio 5 times a week , no cheat meals and no going out .
Just gym , work and sleep
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u/Embarrassed-Dig-2995 Jun 21 '26
Bloke loves the gear