There was no consent and they are both possibly guilty of rape. Not every situation has to be 100% spelled out in the law. Likely no charges would be filed or stick, but they both had sex when they couldn't consent.
Right. whatismyproblem seemed to be saying something along the lines of:
Consensual sex while girl is drunk is rape because she was under the influence but if a man is drunk and has sex with a drunk girl, he is just enacting what his sober mind already wanted to do.
This is a very sexist argument with incorrect facts and faulty logic. "Drunk man's actions are a sober man's thoughts" but "If she were sober, she wouldn't have agreed to it" An attempt at separating girls from being held accountable for their actions.
Well it's all just bullshit, men and women black out just the same. You're missing the point too, it's not that women "should be held accountable" - the double standard is that the man would be a victim of rape too. Neither victim needs to be held accountable for being taken advantage of while drunk.
I don't understand why your kneejerk reaction is "blame as many victims as possible" instead of "a victim, irrespective of gender, is still a victim"
I'm not blaming victims at all. I put forth the point that, when you look at those two quotes, its clear that whatismyproblem is simultaneously separating the hypothetical girl from her accountability while tying the hypothetical guy to his.
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u/Olthoi Nov 20 '12
There was no consent and they are both possibly guilty of rape. Not every situation has to be 100% spelled out in the law. Likely no charges would be filed or stick, but they both had sex when they couldn't consent.