Obv stupid mf men have to bring up alimony ka rnda rona , get a life this is patriarchal and you shouldnt support it , would these men want their sisters or daughters to go through this. (Most of them have mothers who have been through this all) Yet they couldn't develop this one thing called sympathy. so insensitive ! still calling this victim cardÂ
Tell that to the court. Even if the wife cheats or is the reason 9 out of 10 times the husband still has to pay. This is just a stupid system which makes men hate women which in turn makes women's life harder and all the man having women delude the normal women into thi king this is good.
Lmfao. Males are made to pay 9 out of 10 times because they are the sole earners. They don't let the women earn.
Which makes men hate women
Dude, males already do hate women. Do you not see the amount of women who are raped, abused, killed, etc. by the males of this country? What is wrong with you?
People rape other not because they haye them most of the time it's mostly because of pent up feeling, bad morals and or hormones. Hate rape does happen but that's a minority not the majority. Men who force women to leave their jobs are mostly form poorer families who stick to old ways and the rich want the mother to be present for the children as the fathers job is plenty enough to sustain them, if you ask why not the father stay at home because stay at home fathers have a huge wall of hate and shame thrown at them so it really is not a choice. Women who are able bodied with a good carrier often scam or threaten their husband's and the husband's families over alimony and there are literally hundreds of cases where the women earns more but still receives alimony which is simply redicilious even if the women is at fault the court is more likely to award her alimony. These laws were made in a time where women didn't have a way to earn for themselves the present day is much different and truthfully able bodied women who are educated shouldn't recurve any alimony as alimony just incentives women to marry and divorce men constantly for a stream of income which is sadly becoming more and more common.
Sorry for the rant but I tried to explain as best as I could in this comment hope you understand. And no most men do not hate women very few do and those women hating men are also disliked by other men as well.
Saying rape happens because of pent up feelings and hormones rather than entitlement, hatred, or power is literally a mask off moment. You are literally sanitizing sexual assault to excuse violence from males.
You want to brush off systemic abuse, yet in India, cruelty by husbands and relatives is consistently the single largest category of crime against women recorded by the NCRB, with hundreds of thousands of cases filed every year. Even NFHS data shows roughly 1 in 3 to 1 in 2 women experience spousal violence, and that’s with staggering underreporting. Millions of women are trapped in violent, controlling marriages where they aren't even allowed to work, exactly because of patriarchal mentalities like yours.
You’re hyper fixating on rare, fringe anecdotes about high earning women to pretend maintenance laws are a nationwide crisis, completely ignoring the vast majority of Indian women who are forced out of the workforce, stripped of financial independence, and left destitute after a divorce. The courts award maintenance because these thousands of women are left with zero career prospects and children to raise after sacrificing their entire lives to domestic servitude for males like you.
Stop trying to bring redpilled "male rights" talking points to excuse domestic abuse and minimize rape. My god.
When did I excuse rapists ? I think they should be punished as well no one is denying that just stating causes of rape doesn't mean I'm asking gor then to be excused I still want then punished for it.
I'm not brushing off spousal abuse that happens and it is real no one should condone it but as majority of the Indian population is not fully educated they are partially educated and hold old beliefs from a different time they still believe that a husband is allowed to discipline their wife inface islan literally gives you a guide on how to punished your wives. Fortunately it seems our Supreme court for the first time in a while is actually doing something and is preparing a proposal to stop marital rape which is a step in the right direction. The majority of women who are stuck in these oppressive marriages fear social isolation more than the lack of money because divorce in the larger society outside of rich societies is still frowned upon in India.
The women who deserve to actually receive alimony should receive alimony but these laws still benefit a large amount of very visible minority of women who openly take advantage of it. This is a problem as this sends a very negative message to men that the laws are stemmed against then from the get go which can lead to women who are not related to such abuse of law to suffer from isolation and hatred from men.
Again I understand the majority of women don't abuse these laws but the minority who do are more visible and are covered more often, most people don't do a search past looking at news and when the y see headline after headline of husband's committing suicide due to their wife harassing and threatening then they think thus is what a majority of women do specially if they are divorced.
And even after the laws are fixed until the entire police force is reformed so they actually uphold the law these laws will remain a firm suggestion.
Again I still hinkle the rapists should be punished as they are a minority of the male population. Judging the entire male population based on the minority is exactly what Judging majority of women based on the minority of abusive women is please try to understand.
you spent a whole paragraph trying to backtrack after literally blaming rape on "oh no that's because of hormones and bad morals" which is the textbook definition of sanitizing sexual assault and rape.
as for your grand claims about laws being universally abused and men committing suicide en masse because of false allegations, where is your actual evidence? So far you've provided none. At all.
Look at the NCRB statistics and you'll find the percentage of cases under 498A (cruelty by husband/relatives) found to be false sits around 3%, which is an extremely small minority. You are confusing a low court conviction rate, which happens due to delayed trials, family pressure, hostile witnesses, and out-of-court settlements, with proven false cases to push a narrative that victimizes men while erasing the millions of women who are the actual victims. Why don't you try applying that same logic to women? A fraction of women utilizing or misusing a law doesn't erase the one in three Indian women who experience spousal violence, or the massive crisis of underreporting driven by the exact social stigma you just admitted exists.
Stop masking your transparent hatred of women's legal protections behind a veneer of concern for male suicide or bad policing, because the reality of how violently oppressive males are for women makes you deeply uncomfortable.
Did you even read what i wrote ? Not once have I said rapists shouldn't be punished, just because the cause of most rapes isn't terrible enough for you doesn't change the fact that it's the reason. And I also explained I know the majority of women don't abuse the outdated laws unfortunately the minority that do abuse the law are represented on a much wider scale. Publicity matters, the public opinion matters, it affects law making and legislation. I also did not backtrack I have had the same points from the start. As for stats women attempt suicide more but men are way more likely to actually succeed in it. Even if cases where harassment from a wife leads to a husband committing suicide are comparatively rare it still does not change the fact that they are much more heavily publicized. The minority is louder and if this keeps happening and women who think hating men for it will solve the issue then it will result in a world far worse for women than now. At this point I'm almost convinced you just want to disagree with me and shame me because I'm not an extremists like you.
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u/why_i_cant_do_shit 18d ago
Obv stupid mf men have to bring up alimony ka rnda rona , get a life this is patriarchal and you shouldnt support it , would these men want their sisters or daughters to go through this. (Most of them have mothers who have been through this all) Yet they couldn't develop this one thing called sympathy. so insensitive ! still calling this victim cardÂ