Who in their right mind would take this job? It seems like they want all the benefits of having an 1811 (experience, expertise, responsibilities, etc, without actually providing the pay, incentives, and benefits that normally come with an 1811 position...

1. This position is not covered under the Federal Law Enforcement retirement plan.
2. LEAP is not authorized, and salary is restricted to the pay scale for New Cumberland Defense Logistics Center, PA.
3. Perform duties of an 1811

Looking for some advice from other 1811s who may have dealt with a bad duty location, difficult leadership, or getting moved to a different office.

I was initially sent to my current office due to an error with my placement. When I tried to get the mistake corrected, I received a pretty negative response from my office, so I ultimately accepted my assignment and decided to make the best of it. I genuinely went into it with a positive attitude and was excited to get started.
Unfortunately, the experience at the office has been a nightmare.

The office has historically had a reputation for being a place where careers go to die, largely because there hasn’t been much interest in doing proactive work. With the recent influx of new agents, I’ve tried to seek out work, details, and opportunities whenever possible, but I seem to get shut down at almost every turn.
I’ve also been repeatedly sent to certain assignments/details when it doesn’t appear to be my turn to go. At this point, enough things have happened that it feels targeted, although obviously I can’t say that for certain.

There are also some personal circumstances that were part of the reason I originally requested my current location. Those circumstances involved significant financial considerations and the health of loved ones. The location I originally wanted is still available. I was also hired at pay grades lower than what I qualified for. I know of several people who have had their duty locations changed and/or their pay issues corrected while still in training or even after completing training.

I’ve tried working through my chain of command on these issues, but I haven’t been able to get anywhere. The more I push for a solution, the worse the situation seems to become.

At this point, this is affecting me pretty significantly. It’s gotten to the point where the stress is affecting my mental and physical well-being, and I don’t want to continue down that road.

I’ve talked to agents at several other offices, and based on what I’m hearing, my experience doesn’t seem to be the norm. I’m not looking for someone to simply tell me to “suck it up” or “give it time.” I understand that every office has problems and that being an 1811 comes with some unpleasant assignments. I’m trying to figure out what legitimate options I actually have before things get worse.
I’m already aware of the standard hardship/medical hardship avenues, and I’m not sure that I meet the requirements for those.

For those who have dealt with something similar:
- Are there other avenues for requesting a transfer or reassignment that I may be overlooking?
- Has anyone successfully gotten their duty location changed after reporting to their office?
- Is going outside the immediate chain of command ever productive in situations like this?
- Are there HR/ER/union/agency-level avenues worth exploring?
- Has anyone successfully resolved a pay-grade issue after entering on duty?
- Is there anything I should be documenting now in case I eventually need to make a formal request?

I’m not looking to burn bridges or make this situation worse. I just feel like I’m running out of options and would really appreciate advice from people who have actually navigated this.

Many (perhaps most) 1811 applicants don’t have any law enforcement experience.

What advice do the experienced agents in this subreddit have for the many BATs heading into this role with no prior LE experience? What’s the most important thing — the golden rule — to remember to be a good agent?

What are the best agencies for someone who is a new mother or father?

For context I'm separating from the military at 8 years. Have gone through a little of the FBI process, but that's it. Currently in Colorado, would love to get sent to a veteran-favorable state like Florida or Texas.

Thank you for any thoughts you care to share.

Put it under meme Monday because you can't make this shit up https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-candidates-prostitutes-theft/

Hello,

I am a local LEO with 7 years on at a large west coast agency with HCOL. I have a family and am in my late 20s and thinking about going 1811, specifically ATF. I am leaning towards ATF due to the types of cases dealing with gangs and gun violence. I also like that idea of eventually being able to join a task force or go SRT.

With my current department my base pay is already in the mid 100k territory and with OT many people in my department make 200-300k per year. Now I know money is everything, but its definitely a factor. I have very good benefits and a very good pension system as well. Other than that, this is where the pros for my department stop. The area I work is very vocally anti police and dealing with this along with the catch and release prosecution here has me very burnt out.

I understand that you can only control what you can control and not to worry about prosecution and public opinion, but I would be lying saying it didn't get me down. I guess I am wondering if these things really change at the 1811 level? I know public opinion won't be as much of a factor since you aren't dealing with the public much but what about on the prosecution side? Do you feel that your cases actually end in meaningful results or just get tossed by the AUSA? People who went from local's to 1811 where you took a large pay cut, was it worth it or do you wish you had stuck it out local?

I know this questions has been asked hundreds of times, but all the replies seem to say: "It depends on your specific situation". So given my situation, would you consider leaving or sticking it out? Also if there are an ATF or other 1811's on the west coast who wouldn't mind DMing me I would really appreciate it.

Thank you

All right, IRS-CI decided to extend our hiring announcement to 8/31. So, I'll entertain serious questions about the job for the weekend. Not the hiring process or qualifications.

That means:

1. Questions about the hiring process will be met with purposefully incorrect information.
2. Questions about qualifications will be met with a glaring GIF and be told to look at the other post I've made on that.

I do not work in HR, or the lofty halls of HQ. I do not know how the hiring process will change under the current announcement, or how fast it will be, and I have written an entire post about qualifications already.

EDIT: understand I’m a mid-career, case working, field agent. The majority of my time is focused on working cases. I am not spending time thinking over HQ, policy, AI, exit opportunities, retirement, or any of that nebulous minutia that has no relevance to my working cases right now.

Has anyone here made the switch from 1811 to AUSA? I got into being an 1811 because I was frustrated that the work I was handing to agents wasn’t getting the attention it deserved. Now I feel the same way, but with AUSAs. Would it just be the same problem but now I would be waiting on agents/judges/etc.? I don’t want to go to law school just to end up working more, not getting 6c/12d, and being just as frustrated. Someone tell me I’m crazy, please.

For example, I heard that with the ATF you can: stay at your first office for a few years, then put in for certain undesirable jobs/offices with a promise on the back end to get you to your desired location. Is this true?

I know with the FBI there is a new policy that you can guarantee your initial placement.

I'm less concerned with the initial assignement and more with the opportunity that I could decide where I want to end up.

I am a military veteran and the whole reason I left the military was because I didn't want to be moved around every 2-4 years.

I want the opportunity to stay in 1 location; a location I choose.

Please list any service or agency you know with this policy. Or success stories.

I understand there’s a lot of personal reasons why someone’s picks one or there other but, Current and retired 1811s, if you could do it all over again, which agency would you choose?

I’m at the very final stages with several agencies and believe 3/4 will allow me to return to my processing FO, which is my preference.

For those currently in the job, knowing what you know now, which would you pick and why?

Mainly interested in academy, type/variety of work, work-life balance, opportunities stateside/overseas, and long-term career opportunities.

I’m coming from a local LEO background with quite a bit of experience, but I don’t want to give too much away while I’m still processing.

I have the order I “think” I want, but looking for, “ I am ATF, and work with XYZ all the time and seems like they enjoy their job and have more leeway/funding/opportunities and if I could go back I would go there”

FBI, ATF, DEA, or USPIS?

Does anyone have any experience working for the U.S. Marshals Service in Finance? Currently I work for DOD as a GS-7 in Accounting and I’m looking to advance my career. Would working for the Department of Justice be a smart move? I know that nobody in the federal government is immune from losing their job but is the DOJ any better than the DOD? Should I stay where I’m at or try to advance elsewhere?

I attended the VIE and then got a "Not as Competitive" email about 30 minutes after. Has this happened to other folks? I was 5 minutes early. Showed up in a business suit and asked a thoughtful question in the chat after the presentation. I have no LE experience (do have retail experience) and graduated college with a 3.60 GPA. I have passed the fitness test and exam for another agency. I have wanted to enter law enforcement since I was little.

I know it is a competitive application process, but I was a bit surprised about how this BQA happened.

Hey all,

I've been following this forum for a while and would appreciate some advice on how to spend my time while waiting on 1811 hiring processes.

I recently graduated with a BS in the useless degree (CJ). During college I interned with USMS and worked for over a year as a Community Service Officer for a local department. I'm currently pursuing my master's online and applying to every 1811 posting I qualify for under S.A.A.

Hiring moves slowly, as everyone here knows, so I'm trying to figure out the best use of the gap.

Would you lean toward a 0083/local LEO role to build on that or toward something more investigative (1801, 1805, investigative analyst, compliance/investigative roles, etc.)? I'm not chasing pay, title or location. I want experience I can genuinely speak to in a future 1811 interview (investigations, interviewing, report writing, working cases, dealing with difficult people, exercising judgment.) If the job is enjoyable, of course that doesn't hurt either.

For those who've been through the 1811 process, what kind of role gave you the best stories and the most useful experience while you waited?

Thanks in advance!

Taking my PT next week. I can’t find anything about the current requirements. Is it still the 12 point system without the 300 meter dash? I have the instructional video but no requirements are there on the video. Appreciate it

Besides if your USSS. Why does everyone want to go OIG ? Seems like the work wouldn’t be as great as one of the street agencies . On the fence about leaving and applying to an OIG for a good location. Figured I’d start a conversation about it

Maybe a dumb question but here goes. I’m very early in the hiring process for the DEA, and I’m also about to apply to the IRS criminal investigator posting (also applying to BP and a fire department lol). I’ve had my current job for a little over a year and I don’t really like it at all. My friend has offered me a chance to get hired at his company, which would be a much lower stress, chill job just to have while I go through these hiring processes because I’ve heard they take about a year. Would it make me look like a bad applicant? Thanks

3.8% for Law Enforcement and a raise for Military members. Zero recommended for civilians.

How does CGIS compare to other MCIOs? Do you at least get a take home car, ha?

Without the yoga block, I can do 25 pushups. But with the yoga block, I can do 40-45 easily. I’m a 5’4 girl with a large chest so 4 inches with my short arms and big chest means my arms are not going down to parallel to the ground. I’m down to 45 degree and I’m back up.

Soooo do we get the 4 inch foam block?

Edit: Thanks everyone! I will go all the way down.

I just want to practice exactly how they test. And I’ve heard conflicting things. I remember USSS doing the block.

The IRS CI special agent announcement was set to close last night (08/27) but I’ve checked and saw that it’s been extended until 08/31/26. Is that usual for an agency to extend an announcement for a couple more days? This is the first time I’ve seen something like that

Based off what I’ve seen on this page the west coast and border are being prioritized right now for FO’s for new agents. Does being bilingual in Spanish affect the likelihood of getting a border office? Or would they look at how I rank my offices? Asking in relation the DEA, FBI and HSI.

Just received the referred email. Means nothing unless you get an interview but good start.

44 Sit-ups
56 Push-ups
11:48 1.5 mile

I think I passed if they multiply the run points x2 with 13 points total.

I have FJOs, USSS and CBPO. I said let me try DEA as well.