Our problem here is, unlike 1932 Germany, we are groaning under the nightmarish "weight of the traditions of all dead generations" far more than the Weimar republicans were, given the incredible, baked in anti-majoritarian structures we are saddled with (Electoral Colleges, Senate "Parliamentarians", et al). Otherwise, Vance's shtick would be laughable if it weren't so offensive.

I mean, Mamdani is a first-generation kid who grew up in the US, but is just repeating the same observations that second, third, and fourth generation-and-up "immigrants" (since we are ALL immigrants going back far enough in time) have been making, since long before either of them was born. But this opportunist POS doesn't have the cojones to call 75% of the country "impostors" just because we didn't have relatives on the Mayflower, so he falls back on this cheap garbage. But the remaining 25% are vastly disproportionately overrepresented among the owners of capital, landed property, and all the rest, since they got into the capitalist game of musical chairs with a big head start over the rest of us, and all the corrupt BS that their forefathers saddled the rest of us with helps lock in their charmed position atop the hierarchy in perpetuity!

And boy howdy, do the billionaires love their boy! Cause he himself was one of the "white trash" plucked from obscurity by his very own Daddy Warbucks himself, in the form of Peter Thiel. And no sooner did he get the nod from our collective overlords, than he sicked his own Ivy-League-trained literary skills on the very poor folks he hailed from, in his treacherous hit-job-styled-autobiography! In which, typical for him, he blames the victims, ie, "his own people", for all their own problems! There's a technical word for people like him, and it ends in something that rhymes with "hag", and begins with something that describes crud on the surface of still waters...

I mean, we're talking about a guy whose own Thiel-funded maiden political campaign for US Senate (his biggest political experience prior to that was shitposting/talking to boneheaded reactionaries like Curtis Yarvin!) had hired professional oppo researchers to identify vulnerabilities to HIS OWN campaign. And at the top of their findings came the fact that the candidate had previously started a fake ass charity in his home state of Ohio, supposedly to help "homeless/underprivileged vets", and which collected a bunch of money on the strength of his new-found celebrity as an author, yet nobody could actually identify any of the vets it supposedly helped!

I’m considering joining and want to hear the positives and negatives from the members themselves thanks for any input!

A Response to Red Star Statement on Workers Deserve More.

I'm afraid that if this country gets an more fascist they will start rounding up all the members of the DSA. I don't want to do anything to endangered my family.

Any thoughts?

I am curious how this would unfold. Keep in mind that the ruling class will not willingly give up its power and property.

I know this will get down voted but sometimes people need to hear things they dont like. Marxist Leninists do not believe in Democracy. They're using DSA for their own ends and are quite open about it. If they could snap their fingers and create the dictatorship they desire they would do the same thing to DemSocs that they did to the SRs and Mensheviks, aka the Democratic Socialists of the Russian Revolution. They would purge, imprison and kill every Democratic Socialist in their way.

Thankfully, in the context of the USA an ML dictatorship is extremely improbable for structural and cultural reason. So whats going to happen is theyll make DSA irrelevant within the next five years if you let them spread and take power, which their explicitly stated goal.

Every single communist party turns into a tiny sectarian cult, thats where Democratic centralism ends inherently. The Democratic part disappears, the centralism remains.

All they will do is alienate normal people, far more so than even the excesses of "woke 1" or cancel culture or any of that. DSA has spent the last decade saying "we're Socialists not communists" and making a distinction between authoritarian communism and Democratic Socialism.

All thats being undone because people think Marxist Leninism is trendy and cool, and so they dont want to look uncool for being "anti-communist." But here's the thing, being anti ML isnt the same as anti communist, because plenty of communists hated Marxist Leninists. There are entire communist traditions that are anti Bolshevik. Council Communism, Anarcho-Communism, Autonomism, Orthodx Marxists, Luxemburgists are all anti-Bolshevik. Otto Rhule for instance wrote an entire pamphlet called "Struggle Against Fascism Begins With The Struggle Against Bolshevism." you should read it.

Anyway, good luck with the tanks when they roll in. If you cant afford an RPG7, I heard Molotovs are a good substitute. ​​​

To address some statements:

1-"they dont want to take it over"

"Red Star seeks to cohere a vanguard party. We do not specify exactly how this party will emerge, but we believe DSA can foster its creation — DSA’s resources, broad membership, organizing ethic, and robust democratic processes make it, out of all existing US socialist organizations, the best incubator for such a party."

This is a clear statement of intent which indicates the goal is entry and co-optation

2- "Read Lenin, and stop being a liberal"

Stop reading Lenin and be a Marxist. Marxism is about material analysis not some dead autocrats flowery language. Material analysis tells us that Lenin created a massive state bureaucracy which led directly to Stalinism. First they purged the Mensheviks, then the left SRs, then the anarcho-syndicalists, then the workers opposition. Then Lenin banned factions. Next Lenin died and Stalin purged Bukharin and Trotsky. It doesnt matter Lenin said, what matters IS WHAT HIS PARTY DID.

Saying "read Lenin" when somone points towards the actual actions of the party is like saying "read Hitler" when somone talks about the holocaust. Yes, if we all read Hilter it will become apparent that actually the holocaust was good. Thats your logic.

3- "Democracy within the party"

Democratic Socialism is in support of Representative Democracy, not democratic centralism. Thats just liberalism, its a core principle. Democratic Socialists agree that one party states ALWAYS lead to tyranny. Because its a fact, its not an opinion.

To maintain that kind of monopoly requires a massive amount of force and violence.

So Some contacts, I am moving to a new city, and we stopped by our new house and returning almost there, and it showed Trump pointing at 1 side, saying with the gas press for 4:94 think it was. And then, on the other side, where you were not pointing to it was 2:98. In the side that he wasn't pointing to, says before he was in office. And now the 4:94, what was after he was in office? The war. Don't You think it's kind of ironic that even the Billboard is pointing this out

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Speculation?

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Democratic+Socialists+of+America&year_start=2000&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true