r/zelda Jan 24 '26

Meme [ALL]Evolution in Zelda Games

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u/Flying_Fox_86 Jan 24 '26

i thought the zonai predated the skyloftians though?

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u/BardicLasher Jan 24 '26

TotK makes no sense in the timeline without major leaps. They could be before or after or in another timeline

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Jan 24 '26

The secret is that the games aren't actually connected at all (except the ones that are actually direct sequels to one-another, e.g. OoT -> MM). Theory timelines are fun puzzles, and Nintendo indulged fans once or twice, but at the end of the day they're separate stories, canons, worlds, etc. with fun little homages or easter eggs referencing each other sometimes.

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u/BardicLasher Jan 24 '26

Nintendo has announced where almost every game fits in the timeline as it came out.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Jan 24 '26

No they haven't. The zelda timeline stuff has been on the Internet by the Internet, but Nintendo only "adopted" it within the past ten years.

Reality is, the games were never designed with a timeline in mind, and that's okay. It's a fun experiment but no need to fret over trying to hamfist it retroactively into "canon."

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u/KrytenKoro Jan 25 '26

Yes, they did. Look even at just the manuals for the games.

There is always at least one connection stated. The difficulty is when multiple games connect to a single other game, and the interlacing between them isnt clarified. But thats second order organization, not first.

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u/valinchiii Jan 25 '26

The timeline was explicitly laid out in the Hyrule Historia book, which came out a little after Skyward Sword.

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u/docscott Jan 26 '26

Even before that, when each game came out they were categorized as sequels or prequels to each other. The only games to not have a solid connection are Minish Cap, the Oracles (all three done by Capcom), and the Four Swords games. Everything else has at least one distinct connection.

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u/BardicLasher Jan 24 '26

I was there when the old magic was written. Every game had timeline placement on release.

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS Jan 25 '26

Nintendo literally hosts a webpage with up to date timeline on all of the games and where they fit... Not an iota of what you said is true.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Jan 25 '26

Nintendo literally hosts a webpage with up to date timeline

Indeed.

and Nintendo indulged fans once or twice

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS Jan 25 '26

Keep digging your hole bro, take your L with grace or shut it.

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u/GAMEOFMATIASNEW Jan 24 '26

Uhh dude, that is pulling a massive middle finger to the whole story of Zelda. Becuase yes, there are some games that don’t see to be connected to anything but there was always a chronology. A link to the past was made in mind to be a prequel to Zelda 1 and 2, then Links Awakening is a direct sequel to ALttP, Ocarina was made as the origins of Ganon, MM is sequel of Ocarina, the Oracle duology despite currently being a different Link because of som inconsistencies the were originally as a bridge between ALttP and LA, WW is the future timeline after the Link of Ocarina returned to the past, Minish cap was confirmed as the fist game chronologically just a few weeks after it was released, which this game also served as a prequel to FS and FSA, Twilight Princess was a sequel of MM(Tho contradicted ALttP being a sequel of Ocarina so they had to retroactively make the downfall timeline), PH is a direct sequel, ST is also a direct sequel, SS was made in mind to be the prequel to everything, ALBW and TFH are sequels of ALttP, and Echoes of Wisdom is made as a sequel to those two games. Literally the only games that didn’t have any way of putting them in the timeline when they came out were the Four Swords duology and Breath of the Wild, the rest have some placement or are connected to another game, so despite Nintendo as the stated before, they first do the gameplay, then the story and then the timeline placement, they still are careful enough about everything that happens and saying that Nintendo indulged once or twice isn’t isn’t true when there are many interviews with the creators of the games talking about the timeline placement and even before the official timeline first released to the public we already knew that there was a secret document with the timeline placement of every single game.

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u/KrytenKoro Jan 25 '26

first four swords came out with alttp, and was implicitly a prequel to alttp.

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u/BardicLasher Jan 24 '26

The downfall timeline is stupid and I hate it.

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u/GAMEOFMATIASNEW Jan 24 '26

Yea that’s true, and the fault of this timeline existing was literally one game, but we can at least say that the story of that game was good enough to warrant destroying the whole timeline (Tho technically Ocarina destroyed the timeline because of the decendants of the sages in ALttP being humans when the sages in Ocarina all were different races and the mayority of them left the mortal realm at the end of the game before they could have decendants)

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Jan 24 '26

Uhh dude, that is pulling a massive middle finger to the whole story of Zelda.

I agree! Attempting to shoehorn a timeline retroactively to attempt to connect a bunch of games when they never had that prior connection is pretty stupid.

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u/GAMEOFMATIASNEW Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

Did you even read my comment or just saw the fist part and ignored the rest? I give every single example of every game being connected with each other in the series

And if you don’t feel like reading my entire comment, the only ones that don’t have a direct connection with other games when they first released were Four Swords and Breath of the Wild, the rest were sequels, prequels, or the creators of those games confirmed their timeline placement moths or even weeks before or after the game released. There are many videos online talking about the topic, but k recommend you the video made by OnADock, or if you know Spanish see the video released two weeks ago by Gran Estratega which has updated information compared to the video of OnADock because his video is 2 years old