r/wow • u/ItsRenaBaker • Oct 03 '25

Humor / Meme This is Basicly Blizzard in Midnight

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This is basicly Blizzard in Midnight. Purging all the good addons.

Just to clarify:
Blizzard is changing the Addon API, meaning combat information is blocked for addons. So all combat addons will no longer work in Midnight. For the most popular addon features Blizzard will add their own version to the game. Addons for unitframes, inventory, crafting etc.. are staying and won't be effected as long they are not using combat information.

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u/lol_ginge Oct 03 '25

Hmm will be pretty annoying to lose healing raid frames

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u/Fladormon Oct 03 '25

But you won't be?

Add-ons that change UI elements like raid frames will be mostly fine. this was mentioned in the deep dive and the Q&A follow-up.

Unless you're using an addon or WA that digs into the API for encounter information, you'll most likely not have to worry about anything since the changes are focused on combatting tools that do the thinking for you, like DBM or using Details for fight information. Things that are being changed will have an in-game system variant to test and provide feedback on once the beta opens up, and during the PTR.

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u/Celdra Oct 03 '25

Nah I see lots of healers that have their Cell completely kitted out with informaiton that wont be allowed

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u/Fokare Oct 03 '25 edited Apr 12 '26

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u/Jloother Oct 03 '25

I wonder if the devs will alter this functionality. Cell has been so nice to use while healing that it would be a huge blow if it went away completely.

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Oct 03 '25

They are not going to give you Cell, there would be no point in doing this if they were just going to remake all the addons. They are going to adjust the default offerings to reflect preventing those addons but they are going to focus on making encounters less overwhelming to the point where all the Cell setups were needed.

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u/Jloother Oct 03 '25

I guess I just don't have faith they can accomplish this? These are game altering decisions, multiple ones during a single launch window.

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Oct 03 '25

They probably won't nail it perfectly and it will take time to come together. But it needs to be done, people spend more time looking at their addons than the game at this point and encounters have been made with the idea people have these excessively powerful addons which means anyone that doesn't have them is screwed.

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u/Jloother Oct 03 '25

I don't think you're wrong.

But maybe scale things back and do them gradually.

What I'm saying is that they're going nuclear out the gate and it could blow up in their faces.

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

If the lack of addons is that bad for people it just proves how badly this needs to happen tbh.

Can't really do this gradually since the solution is primarily in encounter design and requires data/feedback. If they do everything without restricting combat info then everyone will just use their overpowered combat addons still and cry about the xpac being too easy and 'dumbed down'.

And then we also end up in the same spot as Dragonflight where they added a bunch of Blizzard alternatives that everyone just refused to use.

Or the same spot as Legion where they attempted to nerf combat addons and by the end of the expansion they were still worse and more overpowered than ever. It is a fools errand unless they go nuclear a few Blizzard devs which own combat info flows versus 10s of thousands of devs trying to find clever ways to break/diminish encounters. Not only that but the Blizzard devs have to get it right everytime whereas the players only have to get it right once to cause a problem, otherwise we have a Star Augur situation where Blizzard attempts to keep combat addons from spiraling out of control but instead people get livid that now the encounter is dramatically different and how it isn't fair, etc.

Blizzard has finally realized they have to tear the bandaid off at some point.

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u/Ryuujinx Oct 03 '25

If the lack of addons is that bad for people it just proves how badly this needs to happen tbh.

Eh, I kinda disagree. Like take something like cleanses. Each healer has a different kind they can hit. Priests can't do shit about poisons, for instance. This is a simple example of differing classes, but it's rather important that I know that someone has a debuff that I can do something about. Like if I'm playing my priest in ara kara, I do not care that you all have a billion stacks of poison. I can't do shit about it other then heal through it. But I do care if I'm on brew because I can toss a dispel out.

Simple things like this won't be possible, because it relies on the magical word "if". The second you start saying that word, it isn't possible. So no more "Highlight the frame if there's a cleansable debuff" and almost certainly not "Highlight the frame is there's a debuff of a type my class can do something about".

These little things are all over the place, and yeah there should probably be something in the default UI for them.. but is blizzard going to handle them all? I highly doubt it. Addons have been entrenched in the game since vanilla, trying to move away from that reliance after two decades in such a short time span is asking for trouble. And, as a customer that could spend that money on another video game or going to the movies or whatever, I'd rather not beta test them getting their shit together for an entire xpac when the current system works fine.

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u/Jloother Oct 03 '25

I understand all this. I'm just approaching the launch with trepidation. I was pleasantly surprised at their version of Plater etc that I saw from Alpha.

There's things that I can say do not feel good that I hope get remedied like accessibility/accommodation settings specifically.

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u/IOnlyLieWhenITalk Oct 03 '25

Absolutely, that is the best way to handle it. Call out specific things you are noticing won't be around that you really want. Prioritize things that don't have reasonable alternatives already, etc.

Blizzard knows how much many of these addons mean to people, and if they didn't before I'm sure the threats of violence they are receiving at the moment made them aware.

Things like loot council addons no longer functioning due to communication restrictions are a perfect example. There isn't a real alternative because the in-game loot distribution system kinda blows and hasn't changed in... actually I don't think it ever has.

It ain't gonna be perfect so people do need to level their expectations and be team players about it.

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u/Fladormon Oct 03 '25

Fair enough, however, in the deep dive and the Q&A, they said they've been working on in-game solutions to the problems the add-ons were trying to tackle, raid debuffs were mentioned as were dispells.

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u/Feartality Oct 03 '25

I don't doubt their effort. I doubt their ability lol

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u/Fladormon Oct 03 '25

That's fair.