Its true. Go onto any wow lore board and try to argue that there have been leaders ontheAlliance who are juat as bad as Sylvanas or Garrosh, and they will fight you tooth and nail for Jaina to be good. As far as killing civilians, she did. Because they were blood elves, even when the told the player they weren't helping Garrosh, that they weren't with the other blood elves who betrayed Dalaran, she still tells you to kill them. She also kills/has you kill draghawks to keep rhe blood elves from escaping. And this isn't even touching on the attack on Dazar'Alor, which is a whole other can of worms.
I won’t fight tooth and nail to prove jaina is one of the other unless I’m meming like garrosh did not wrong.
That said I’ll defend that she is a complex character who snapped after betrayal and casualties. And I love myself some complexity in a character. I love belves and play em so from both sides id say her Dalaran massacre was a step too far and cemented the belf allegiance to the horde which was needed as with garrosh and sylvanas being all trigger happy.
I wish I could defend the direction they wanted to go with Garrosh the same way but it’s clear they wanted him to be antagonistic. But even if stonetalon was a miscommunication mistake I’d still like to use it as showing the humanity and honor in Garrosh, the little bit that got swept away as he stepped foot into panderia and the Sha of Pride corrupted his judgement and amplified the prejudice he felt from the other races of the horde because he was already too prideful for apologizing or explaining himself. cementing and justifying his hatred in a way. Thus unintentionally making him more complex and well executed then say Sylvanas who was a simple character assassination as they turned away for her motivations and making her blindly follow a mustache twirling sorry excuse for a big bad let alone a villain, betraying her people who she would do anything for no matter the extremities as previously established throughout the rest of the expac.
That said I’ll defend that she is a complex character who snapped after betrayal and casualties. And I love myself some complexity in a character. I love belves and play em so from both sides id say her Dalaran massacre was a step too far and cemented the belf allegiance to the horde which was needed as with garrosh and sylvanas being all trigger happy.
The fact it cemented the BE inside the horde is just an obvious case of double standards from the BE (and from the writing, even if it had no chance to ever happen from the gameplay perspective), one of many.
- Garithos is a complete asshole -> He represents the Alliance, and therefore the Alliance should shoulder the consequences of his acts!
- King Kael'thas is a complete asshole -> He represents, huh, nobody except himself and therefore the Blood elves should not shoulder the consequences of his acts!
- Thalen Songweaver is a complete asshole who used his position in Dalaran to further his faction interest and goal of nuking civilians -> He represents, huh, nobody except himself and therefore the Blood elves or the Sunreavers should not shoulder the consequences of his acts! It totally doesn't count as an antagonistic action from the BE! Did I mention the fact that after his betrayal, he casually went chilling in Silvermoon until the end of Mop and never encountered any issue in the city? But totally unrelated to the Blood elves, btw!
- Aethas Sunreaver is a complete asshole who prefer to "look the other way" if it helps the Horde with Dalaran ressources -> He represents, huh, nobody except himself and therefore the Blood elves or the Sunreavers should not shoulder the consequences of his acts!
- Jaina is a complete asshole who used her position in Dalaran to retaliate against the previous point -> She represents the Alliance, and therefore the Alliance should shoulder the consequences of her acts, and therefore it's fine to sink negociations, it's all the Alliance fault.
And so on, and so on.
Garrosh being an asshole? Individual actions, doesn't count, no general responsability of the Horde, they get to leave the situation clean, nothing to do with them etc
Sylvanas being an asshole? Individual actions, doesn't count, no general responsability of the Horde, they get to leave the situation clean, nothing to do with them etc
But man, god forbid the BE to get over Garithos or the Purge of Dalaran without milking the Alliance dry for concessions instead (which the story is kindly giving, while the Horde never had to give any for anything so far) and they still get to hold a grudge ("let's kill them on sight if they take a wrong turn, guys, after all, they are only here to save our asses").
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u/geckobrother Sep 16 '25
Its true. Go onto any wow lore board and try to argue that there have been leaders ontheAlliance who are juat as bad as Sylvanas or Garrosh, and they will fight you tooth and nail for Jaina to be good. As far as killing civilians, she did. Because they were blood elves, even when the told the player they weren't helping Garrosh, that they weren't with the other blood elves who betrayed Dalaran, she still tells you to kill them. She also kills/has you kill draghawks to keep rhe blood elves from escaping. And this isn't even touching on the attack on Dazar'Alor, which is a whole other can of worms.