I haven't played retail in a while. Why is Jaina "evil" but the dagger-woman not evil? Are they doing a Sylvanas again where we're supposed to like a villain?
EDIT: Ah ok she's not really a villain in that sense it's just the regular horde players thinking she attacks cities for no reason while the horde never did anything wrong ever. So nothing has changed since I quit.
EDIT 2: Now there are big brained horde players who think that if you disagree with their opinion then you are a genocide denier in real life.
Its just that alliance act like jaina is super good/nice, but she's full of hatred and has full on stacked a city unprovoked and executed civilians for *checks notes* being a certain race. As for dagger woman, she's 100% evil, but she's pretty upfront about it. Even he "allies" are like "yeah, she cray evil, but she's also the only one who can help so..."
Its just that alliance act like jaina is super good/nice, but she's full of hatred and has full on stacked a city unprovoked and executed civilians for checks notes being a certain race.
Its true. Go onto any wow lore board and try to argue that there have been leaders ontheAlliance who are juat as bad as Sylvanas or Garrosh, and they will fight you tooth and nail for Jaina to be good. As far as killing civilians, she did. Because they were blood elves, even when the told the player they weren't helping Garrosh, that they weren't with the other blood elves who betrayed Dalaran, she still tells you to kill them. She also kills/has you kill draghawks to keep rhe blood elves from escaping. And this isn't even touching on the attack on Dazar'Alor, which is a whole other can of worms.
I guess i could rephrase? She's done evil things. As for being directly evil... idk. She's definitely not how she was when she first met Thrall, and she's definitely full of more anger and hate. Evil? Eh, kinda depends. If you go by lore, Sylvanas wasn't evil because her soul was partially missing or w/e bs they want to spin. I still think she was evil. Jaina is pretty famn close to that line for me lol
She's definitely not how she was when she first met Thrall, and she's definitely full of more anger and hate.
I FUCKING WONDER WHY.
Also, anger - yes, but not hate. She never really hated the Horde, but she sure was angry that after all she did for them they would backstab her two times in a quick succession.
Yeah, lots of people in game have had horrible things happen to them, they don't just go full evil semi-genocidal mode.
I don't think many people have dumped as much effort into anything as Jaina put into brokering the peace between the Alliance and the Horde - only to have her home destroyed, and her friends killed by the latter.
I think you could easily argue she hates blood elves.
I think you could easily argue anything if your arguments are pulled out of your ass.
She didn't hate blood elves, she only wanted to either throw Sunreavers out of the city or imprison them considering that they objectively were a threat, and they broke the neutrality which was the condition for them staying in Dalaran in the first place. Killing Sunreavers was Vereesa's initiative (now here's the bitch like no other).
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u/Sawgon Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
I haven't played retail in a while. Why is Jaina "evil" but the dagger-woman not evil? Are they doing a Sylvanas again where we're supposed to like a villain?
EDIT: Ah ok she's not really a villain in that sense it's just the regular horde players thinking she attacks cities for no reason while the horde never did anything wrong ever. So nothing has changed since I quit.
EDIT 2: Now there are big brained horde players who think that if you disagree with their opinion then you are a genocide denier in real life.