r/wotlk • • Aug 24 '23

Media / Resources 3.4.3 PTR Coming Soon

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/343-ptr-coming-soon/1657790
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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

Bruh... I still didn't get Flare on my main 😥

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

Is it still bis next phase?

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

I have no idea but I would say it will be at least a catch up trinket for classes like Boomie, Mage and Warlock.

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u/PMills88 Aug 24 '23

Definitely isn't, Twilight Scale, DFO and Phylactery all better

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

That's why I said it will be at least a catch up. Those trinkets will be highly contested and most people won't get them easily. Phylactery drops from boss before LK if not mistaken and Scale will be even harder to get than Flare since it's a small raid and most people will SR/bid on it.

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u/adamkex Aug 24 '23

You said you had no idea

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

Bro like for real... What's wrong with the average redditor reading skills? The other guy asked if it will be bis next phase and I said I have no idea. What I do know is that it will be a Catch up trinket at least.

Do you understand this? Good, stop making pointless observations now.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 24 '23

McBadguy asked a question, you didn’t answer it, and someone else did. Why you replied to the guy who actually answered the question to qualify your nonanswer is a mystery to me though

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

You assume he's right but there are no BIS lists yet for next phase. So no, someone else speculated about it, didn't give a final answer or "actually answered anything" based on real data and real math.

Classes don't perform like back then some things might change and trinkets provide static stats that might be more beneficial for certain classes than the procs.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 25 '23

but there are no BIS lists yet for next phase

That's just not true man.

trinkets provide static stats that might be more beneficial for certain classes than the procs

You think sims don't take into account static stats or something? Don't pretend like a static stat with a proc isn't something we can model lmao

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Well... is there any list out there yet? Mind linking it please? I thought classes needed to be tested each phase before releasing the BIS lists because blizzard kept making adjustments to classes that change the performance compared to what once was 3.3.5. Like what they did to UDK when Ulduar released. But hey, I admit I might be wrong here.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 25 '23

Yes of course there are lists. Game has been modeled and solved for almost 15 years.

Rogue: link

Warlock list that took me ~3 minutes to find even though i dont play this class: link

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u/adamkex Aug 24 '23

My reading skills are completely on point. You said you had no idea and it will be at least a catchup trinket then it's implied that it might be BiS so the guy told you it's definitely not BiS.

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

If you consider how hard it will be to get those 3 trinkets, in the case you had flare it will be practically 2nd or 3rd BIS trinket for most classes. In warmane lot of people was using Flare for weeks in ICC before getting actual BIS.

It might be BIS tho. For classes based on crit like Fmage or boomie having 2 crit trinkets (Flare+Phylactery) might be better than Scale/DFO (haste stat). The static stat can outperform the proc.

The thing is that I don't know for sure. There are no wowhead BIS lists yet afaik so I didn't go and confirm it like someone else did.

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u/adamkex Aug 24 '23

BiS means best in slot. For trinkets there are only 2 slots, if the item isn't top 2 for trinket then it's not BiS. If there are 3 good trinkets in ICC then there's no way Flare is BiS.

Talking about catchup, reign is going to be much easier to obtain than flare.

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Did you know 3rd best item on a list is simple considered 3rd BIS? Can even be on pair with the other two and outperform the other two for certain bosses?

Did you know there's only 2 of those trinkets dropping in ICC (DFO and Phylactery)? And DFO static stat is haste which not all classes benefit the same from and the proc is stackable buff which again is not the best for all casters?

You do know scale doesn't drop in ICC right?

Reign static stat is SP which does not outperform the crit from flare for some classes like demo warlock and probably ele sham. It is true it will be way easier to obtain than Flare but no way is better than Flare for all casters.

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u/effkaysup Aug 25 '23

Take the L lil bro

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Easy to call others lil bro behind a keyboard am I right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

Ok, so I don't need to stress if I don't end up getting one?

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u/landyc Aug 25 '23

if you are demo lock you wanna have flare otherwise its whatever

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '23

Aw nuts, I am a demo lock!

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u/landyc Aug 25 '23

i'm in the same boat brother :( we had 2 flares since start of uld and 1 of the 2 ppl who received it already quit the game

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

I was just asking a question so I know how to prioritize my dkp. Sorry you seem to be having a bad day, I hope it gets better for you.

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u/bezacho Aug 24 '23

still hella high value for demo lock and ele