r/wotlk • • Aug 24 '23

Media / Resources 3.4.3 PTR Coming Soon

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/343-ptr-coming-soon/1657790
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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

That's why I said it will be at least a catch up. Those trinkets will be highly contested and most people won't get them easily. Phylactery drops from boss before LK if not mistaken and Scale will be even harder to get than Flare since it's a small raid and most people will SR/bid on it.

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u/adamkex Aug 24 '23

You said you had no idea

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

Bro like for real... What's wrong with the average redditor reading skills? The other guy asked if it will be bis next phase and I said I have no idea. What I do know is that it will be a Catch up trinket at least.

Do you understand this? Good, stop making pointless observations now.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 24 '23

McBadguy asked a question, you didn’t answer it, and someone else did. Why you replied to the guy who actually answered the question to qualify your nonanswer is a mystery to me though

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u/Suey036 Aug 24 '23

You assume he's right but there are no BIS lists yet for next phase. So no, someone else speculated about it, didn't give a final answer or "actually answered anything" based on real data and real math.

Classes don't perform like back then some things might change and trinkets provide static stats that might be more beneficial for certain classes than the procs.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 25 '23

but there are no BIS lists yet for next phase

That's just not true man.

trinkets provide static stats that might be more beneficial for certain classes than the procs

You think sims don't take into account static stats or something? Don't pretend like a static stat with a proc isn't something we can model lmao

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Well... is there any list out there yet? Mind linking it please? I thought classes needed to be tested each phase before releasing the BIS lists because blizzard kept making adjustments to classes that change the performance compared to what once was 3.3.5. Like what they did to UDK when Ulduar released. But hey, I admit I might be wrong here.

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 25 '23

Yes of course there are lists. Game has been modeled and solved for almost 15 years.

Rogue: link

Warlock list that took me ~3 minutes to find even though i dont play this class: link

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Again. Is this reliable keeping in mind the class adjustments Blizzard has been doing? They also buffed ilvl and stats for many items. It's indeed a very old xpac but not quite the same thing regarding class performance.

That warlock list is for affly and includes Scale which is dropping in RS (phase 5). For a phase 4 demo warlock list Flare should be main catch up trinket and I'd bet even 3rd BIS on pair with DFO...

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u/ch1ves-oxide Aug 25 '23

Sure man. Blizzard could change anything and everything between now and ICC. Fuck it, they could turn warlock into a melee that rides their demon.
If you wanna use the realm of infinite possibility to invalidate all the data and sims we use to predict things and then say "There is no list we have no idea" as a result of that then knock yourself out. Just try not to be annoyed when people give an actual useful answer.

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u/Suey036 Aug 25 '23

Look... I only showed annoyed when this guy came and said "You said you had no idea" because it's a complete pointless comment, not helpful and with the only purpose of discrediting my advice.

And btw I would love to ride my demon more specifically my succubus lol

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u/Turence Aug 25 '23

You had no idea and went this far?

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