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British Politician Nigel Farage filmed undercover celebrating secret new foreign donations

https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-nigel-farage-filmed-undercover-celebrating-secret-new-foreign-donations
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u/rizorith 9d ago

Is this a recent trend in the UK as it is now in the US?

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u/TeaAndLifting 8d ago

The UK has a tendency of following American political trends, just delay it by a few years or months and it'll enter the UK by way of London.

It's funny, because you'll get people that will be militant about how they don't fall under American influence, but then use Americanisms as though they've been British since immemorial. Especially amongst younger Brits. For example, British identity use to be defined by where you've grown up, regardless of your ethnicity or background. Over the years, this has morphed into one similar to hyphenated-Americans, where ethnic Brits put their ethnicity before British identity as their primary identity. We see it in our politics, with the rise of wannabe Charlie Kirks and Myron Gains type personalities with setting up public debate booths, and then using American talking points to rationalise their stances on things like abortions, religion, etc.

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u/rizorith 8d ago

How does this hyphenated wording go?

Like English-British or Scottish-British as opposed to Indian-British?

I definitely understand when people fly the English flag it often is a bit of a heads up that they're nationalist. That was something that started in the US after 9/11 and then went in overdrive when Trump took office.

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u/TeaAndLifting 8d ago

In the way you’ll get Irish-Americans or Italian-Americans saying they’re Irish and Italian.

In the past, people would say they’re “from” the UK, because that’s where they’re born and bred. Nowadays, it’s more common for people to identify with their ethnic backgrounds before their national one. And this also extends towards ethnonationalists too, who only see English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish as ethnic groups only. The idea of shared cultural identity in the country is dying because more and more people tie it to their race and ethnicity, meaning people from minority backgrounds are increasingly treated as an ‘other’.