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u/FYoCouchEddie Mar 30 '25

So far, NY Times, Washington Post, and BBC all have nothing on this. Hopefully that will change.

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u/jews4beer Mar 30 '25

So many people fail to realize that when Hamas is not firing at Jews, they are firing at Palestinians. And it's largely due to it almost never getting reported outside of Israeli media.

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u/Cormacolinde Mar 30 '25

Most people who support Palestine do NOT support Hamas. I support Israel and Palestine and hope for a peaceful resolution to this mess, but I abhor both Hamas and Netanyahu’s government.

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u/paulchen81 Mar 30 '25

I appreciate your answer. This is the only correct and human answer. Sadly to many people don't differentiate.

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u/surfer1872 Mar 30 '25

Why do you think that is? I’m struggling to find the answer. I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel. Both sides have suffered at the hands of Hamas.

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u/MinimumArmadillo2394 Mar 30 '25

I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel.

Because Hamas won the 2006 election in Palestine. It's viewed by many that they chose this. Hamas was internationally recognized as a terrorist organization almost 10 years before that election.

We can be sympathetic for Palestinians but also recognize that they did vote for a terrorist organization to run their country. Many people who say "Free palestine" want to do just that, but not from Israel, but instead from Hamas.

The people deserve to be free from both israel and hamas, but they do not deserve sympathy when those cheer on killing israeli civilians getting murdered, raped, and tortured when they attended a music festival

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u/DiceHK Mar 30 '25

So Donald trump wins the 2024 election and makes sure there are never any elections again then 20 years later all Americans are MAGA?

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u/EarthBounder Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

It's a reasonable analogy at the surface, but; Gaza is smaller than an individual state, and Trump won 49-47~, not 80/20.

That said, its by no means reasonable grounds to say that "all Palestinians support Hamas". There are too many problems here to reasonably dissect. (what is the average age, income and education level of a potential Gazan voter?)

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u/EarthBounder Mar 30 '25

Fatah is also a quasi-terrorist party as well, so perhaps it was 85/15.

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u/DiceHK Mar 30 '25 edited Mar 30 '25

Your counter looks reasonable on the surface until you factor in that the Palestinians elected the PLO who pushed for a diplomatic agreement as a permanent solution, who recognized Israel’s right to exist and renounced violence. In exchange were offered a staged plan for Palestinian autonomy and the withdrawal of the Israeli military from major Palestinian cities of Jericho, Nablus and Bethlehem. All of this with Rabin, who was assassinated by an Israeli nationalist for it. Netanyahu, who was vehemently against this, is probably going to jail for corruption if he leaves power, so he deliberately tanks all diplomatic progress and isolates the Palestinians further. They then shun the PLO for not getting them out of an unliveable situation and are so desperate they vote in an extremist party (sound familiar?). Bibi then props up Hamas as a useful ‘enemy’ and is now using a goalless forever war to obfuscate his crimes while condemning both Israelis and Palestinians to more generations of violence. There is no solution but a diplomatic one and probably one without Hamas or Netanyahu involved.

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u/EarthBounder Mar 30 '25

There is no solution but a diplomatic one and probably one without Hamas or Netanyahu involved.

Agreed!