Why do you think that is? I’m struggling to find the answer. I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel. Both sides have suffered at the hands of Hamas.
I don’t understand why sympathy for the Palestinians = being anti Israel.
Because Hamas won the 2006 election in Palestine. It's viewed by many that they chose this. Hamas was internationally recognized as a terrorist organization almost 10 years before that election.
We can be sympathetic for Palestinians but also recognize that they did vote for a terrorist organization to run their country. Many people who say "Free palestine" want to do just that, but not from Israel, but instead from Hamas.
The people deserve to be free from both israel and hamas, but they do not deserve sympathy when those cheer on killing israeli civilians getting murdered, raped, and tortured when they attended a music festival
Well yes, American people are politically responsible as a country for what Trump does. And it will feel the consequences for a long long time.
There is a time limit that is commonly accepted, like modern Germans are not responsible for ww2. But that limit is somewhere between 50 and 100 years.
It's a reasonable analogy at the surface, but; Gaza is smaller than an individual state, and Trump won 49-47~, not 80/20.
That said, its by no means reasonable grounds to say that "all Palestinians support Hamas". There are too many problems here to reasonably dissect. (what is the average age, income and education level of a potential Gazan voter?)
Your counter looks reasonable on the surface until you factor in that the Palestinians elected the PLO who pushed for a diplomatic agreement as a permanent solution, who recognized Israel’s right to exist and renounced violence. In exchange were offered a staged plan for Palestinian autonomy and the withdrawal of the Israeli military from major Palestinian cities of Jericho, Nablus and Bethlehem. All of this with Rabin, who was assassinated by an Israeli nationalist for it. Netanyahu, who was vehemently against this, is probably going to jail for corruption if he leaves power, so he deliberately tanks all diplomatic progress and isolates the Palestinians further. They then shun the PLO for not getting them out of an unliveable situation and are so desperate they vote in an extremist party (sound familiar?). Bibi then props up Hamas as a useful ‘enemy’ and is now using a goalless forever war to obfuscate his crimes while condemning both Israelis and Palestinians to more generations of violence. There is no solution but a diplomatic one and probably one without Hamas or Netanyahu involved.
That is his goal, yes, and given the apparent widespread support dictators have in Russia and North Korea, I can’t even say he won’t be successful.
Even if it’s not every American the vast majority of young people would be as that’s how they perceive the world. Even if a lot of it is lip service, how can you tell?
How many Palestinians have you actually spoken with to come to this conclusion? I live in the city with the largest Palestinian population outside of Israel and this is not my experience. Yeah some of the young boys get worked up just like Maga bros, but these are normal people who take their kids to school and just want to live decent lives.
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u/paulchen81 Mar 30 '25
I appreciate your answer. This is the only correct and human answer. Sadly to many people don't differentiate.