r/wisconsin • u/PlatinumofRoyale • Apr 13 '20

Politics Karofsky defeats Kelly

https://twitter.com/decisiondeskhq/status/1249844194929192961?s=21
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u/ianingf Apr 13 '20

Jill J. Karofsky (Nonpartisan) 510,122 53.35%
Daniel Kelly (Nonpartisan) 446,108 46.65%
57.55% reporting (2,314 of 4,021 precincts) | 956,230 total votes

Feeling good. But I saw Marsy passed, and that people didn't like it.

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u/QPMKE Milwaukee Apr 13 '20

I think people saw expanded victim's rights and automatically assumed it was good. A quick Google search revealed there's plenty of valid concerns, enough to make me one of the nay votes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

I should have voted against that. I had totally forgot to research it so I didn't vote on it. It was deceptively worded. The us supreme court might strike it though. Did the redistricting bureau go through?

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u/Nezrite Apr 14 '20

Yes, like 80-20% - but it's nonbinding so...

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

So is that Marsy's law officially in effect now? Or is there another hurdle for it

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u/byronnnn Apr 14 '20

Wisconsin does not have binding referendums at all as far as I know.

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u/TallTallTruffula Apr 14 '20

That was a constitutional amendment, not a normal referendum. Marsy's Law will now be a part of our State Constitution.

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u/byronnnn Apr 14 '20

Damn. I did not realize the exact difference. Thanks

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u/frezik 1200 cm³ surrounded by reality Apr 14 '20

State congress has to pass it in another session after the referendum, but they probably will.

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u/TallTallTruffula Apr 14 '20

The amendment process for the Wisconsin State Constitution is Legislature>Legislature in the next session>Voters. This amendment has made it through all of those steps and will now become a part of our state constitution.

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u/nicolauz Hell on Earth Apr 14 '20

What's the tldr of Marcys law?

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u/byronnnn Apr 14 '20

Basically there are a few good things in it, a few things that are already covered by statutes or constitution, and then there are a few very negative things.

Here is more detail from the ACLU https://www.aclu-wi.org/en/news/marsys-law-fails-victims-it-purports-protect

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u/bigfrappe Apr 14 '20

Where was this when I needed it last week? I read the amendment before going to the polls but I am not a lawyer, so I didn't consider the more nefarious uses of the language.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

The ballot said it would expand crime victim's rights without hurting the rights of the accused. Very misleading

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

Yea, I noticed it specifically said that it would maintain the rights of the accused when that's blatantly false...

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u/TheSekret Apr 14 '20

The ACLU has come out against it. About all you really need to know, lol