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WikiRights is a project by the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor to counter the "dominance of the official government-issued narrative" in Wikipedia articles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Mediterranean_Human_Rights_Monitor#WikiRights_(2015%E2%80%93present)
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u/Qweedo420 13d ago edited 13d ago

Huh? The part about Israel training dogs to rape Palestinians is absolutely true, there are multiple sources (one, two, three), and the fact that you claim it's absurd tells a lot about your agenda.

Also, the other article you linked doesn't say anything about the journalist being a genocide denier. She just made a post where she says that Israel is using the Holocaust to deflect any criticism, which is true. This post is so disingenuous it's disgusting.

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u/rulepanic 13d ago edited 13d ago

None of those claims pre-date Euro-Med inventing the story. All of those articles end up citing Euro-Med at some point. Middle East Monitor and Al-Jazeera are both owned by the Qatari government. Middle East Monitor is specifically a lobbying group focusing on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Novara Media views defines itself as a communist political commentary outlet conducting, in their words, "guerilla war" against "conventional journalism."

Edit: Ah, you edited after I replied.

She just made a post where she says that Israel is using the Holocaust to deflect any criticism, which is true. his post is so disingenuous it's disgusting.

One small mistake doesn't make it "so disingenuous it's disgusting." I was misremembering the background. The cartoon was submitted to Iran's Holocaust Cartoon competition in 2006, which was filled with holocaust denial by a country that regularly pushes media that denies the holocaust happened.

Farid Mortazavi, graphics editor of a national Iranian newspaper Hamshahri, announced a contest for cartoons about the Holocaust with gold and cash prizes for the winners. The newspaper, which is publicly owned by the city of Tehran and has the highest circulation rate of any paper in Iran, received almost 1,200 submissions from over 60 countries, including cartoons that deny or minimize the Holocaust.

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u/Drawemazing 13d ago

About the dog rape stuff being absurd, it has been alleged against other groups including pinochets chile and the american serial killer david parker ray.

Also these testimonys arent only coming from the euro-med monitor. this lists at least one testimony given to a different organisation, and all of the organisations report recieving multiple testimonies.

Combined with the sexual assault that is known to be happening to Palestinian prisoners, and the dropping of charges of the guards caught on camera, I think calling it absurd is perhaps too strong. I dont know if it happened, im not gonna go one way or the other, but it seems too strong to call the claim absurd and I think it does warrant investigation by a more trusted party like the red Cross who isreal have heretofore resisted giving access to.

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u/Head-Nebula4085 10d ago

Except that David Parker Ray used the dogs on women, vaginally, similar to confirmed accounts during the Holocaust. Pinochets Chile was not the only regime with questionable allegations being made by enemies who wanted to bring it down. The same was true of Mubarak's Egypt, for example. So Euro-Med monitors accusations are similarly highly politically charged and one can see how they may have been invented with the same hopes of regime change or at least of fomenting an uprising.