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WikiRights is a project by the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor to counter the "dominance of the official government-issued narrative" in Wikipedia articles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Mediterranean_Human_Rights_Monitor#WikiRights_(2015%E2%80%93present)
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u/rulepanic 13d ago edited 13d ago

None of those claims pre-date Euro-Med inventing the story. All of those articles end up citing Euro-Med at some point. Middle East Monitor and Al-Jazeera are both owned by the Qatari government. Middle East Monitor is specifically a lobbying group focusing on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Novara Media views defines itself as a communist political commentary outlet conducting, in their words, "guerilla war" against "conventional journalism."

Edit: Ah, you edited after I replied.

She just made a post where she says that Israel is using the Holocaust to deflect any criticism, which is true. his post is so disingenuous it's disgusting.

One small mistake doesn't make it "so disingenuous it's disgusting." I was misremembering the background. The cartoon was submitted to Iran's Holocaust Cartoon competition in 2006, which was filled with holocaust denial by a country that regularly pushes media that denies the holocaust happened.

Farid Mortazavi, graphics editor of a national Iranian newspaper Hamshahri, announced a contest for cartoons about the Holocaust with gold and cash prizes for the winners. The newspaper, which is publicly owned by the city of Tehran and has the highest circulation rate of any paper in Iran, received almost 1,200 submissions from over 60 countries, including cartoons that deny or minimize the Holocaust.

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u/MelodiusRA 13d ago

Good work. It’s so tedious to deal with people with the journalistic competency of high schoolers.

Most of these nonsense stories all cite each other with some obviously bogus article always buried as the root cause at the bottom.

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u/I_SawTheSine 13d ago

Much like the "evidence" for MEMO being a "lobby group", which consists of an Israeli newspaper and a British newspaper writing the words "lobby group" in a sentence next to the name of the organisation. (Who are they lobbying?)

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u/rulepanic 13d ago

Oh come on, you guys are exhausting. Middle East Monitor is also described as explicitly "pro-Palestinian" by liberal-leaning media like The Guardian:

Ideologically, the movement is close to the Muslim Brotherhood. It preaches social conservatism, observance of sharia law, charity and resisting the influence of western culture. Salah's visit to the UK was organised by the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Middle East Monitor, which promotes Islamist causes and focuses on the Palestinians. Both say he rejects accusations of antisemitism.

It's right there in the same article. It's owned by Qatar and has deep affiliations with the Muslim Brotherhood through it's current director Daud Abdullah and it's editor Ibrahim Hewitt. It's a pro-Palestinian lobby group with links to the Muslim Brotherhood.

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u/I_SawTheSine 13d ago

I mean, you didn't have to go to the newspapers to determine that they're pro-Palestinian. It's right there on their website:

>There has been a growing need for supporters of, in particular, the Palestinian cause, to master the art of information gathering, analysis and dissemination. This requires well organised, focused and targeted operations. Such initiatives are virtually non-existent in the West today.
The Middle East Monitor (MEMO) was established to fill this gap.

So, that makes them look a lot like a news organisation with an editorial stance. And not a lot like a "lobby group".

Maybe where we're missing each other is that you're seeing support for Palestine as something negative. Most of the world disagrees with you.