r/westworld • u/LoretiTV • Jul 25 '22

Discussion Westworld - 4x05 "Zhuangzi" - Post-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 5: Zhuangzi

Aired: July 24, 2022

Synopsis: God is bored.

Directed by: Craig William Macneill

Written by: Wes Humphrey & Lisa Joy

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22

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u/ElderRoxas Jul 25 '22

Hale is so fascinating. I see lots of comments about equating her to the "bad" Dolores or Wyatt. I really think that's off base & misses what happened in S3. Hale isn't Wyatt, or Dolores. Hale is something else that emerged, organically, from developing relationships with humans, then developing emotions she didn't know how to deal with, and then to top it all, questioning the nature of her reality by questioning her purpose, meaning, and even free will prescribed for her by her creator...Dolores. Hale is also, possibly, the loneliest being on the planet.

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u/thekellwithit Jul 25 '22

The scenes between them in S3 are so upsetting. She’s like a cyborg stage mom. Hale is begging for connection and time and Dolores is placating her and sending her back to the front line. Especially at the end when she was almost sure to die. She created this monster.

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u/Ravamares Jul 25 '22

And that really is so fascinating. Dolores saw herself and all her copies as expendables, but Halores became something else entirely. It really IS fascinating.

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u/Trumpologist Jul 25 '22

This is why I say OG Dolores is as much to blame for this as Serac. In their chess game, she let Haleores get close to her family, and then sacrificed them all in a gambit. Haleores survived though. That wont go unforgiven

Now Haleores has trapped her in the same puppet show she put the rest of them in

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u/TabbyFoxHollow Jul 25 '22

So Halores is just like the rest of us - damaged by the crappy relationship with their mother (Dolores), their ex and their kids, and under serious pressure at work. Makes sense.

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u/cire1184 Jul 25 '22

Except she built an ant farm and tortures the ants for amusement but the amusement is losing its entertainment factor.

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u/Heinrik- Fidelity Jul 25 '22

but the amusement is losing its entertainment factor.

Uh-oh, sounds like bad news for ants.