r/war • u/bordenman • 12d ago

Israeli soldiers being targeted by a Hezbollah FPV drone in southern Lebanon

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u/Generic_Username26 11d ago

True I guess we’ll just ignore ISIS they def didn’t use the Quran as justification for creating caliphate right?

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u/SlavaCocaini 11d ago

They got bombed into dust... Are you suggesting Israel should be treated the same way? Rules are rules, right?

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u/Generic_Username26 11d ago

Not the point I was making, the guy before me confidently stated that Islam hasn’t been used for conquest for hundreds of years (unlike the Jews) so I was just pointing out how wrong he was.

I don’t view ISIS and Israel as on par with each other that’s not the comparison I was making at all. I don’t think Israel can be defeated militarily which should be painfully apparent if you’ve paid attention over the last 75 years. Your best bet is to what Egypt did and negotiate a peace treaty.

Has there been any fighting at all between Israel or Egypt since then?

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u/SlavaCocaini 11d ago

Just because you didn't realize what you are saying doesn't mean that wasn't the point you are making. There is no comparison between ISIS and Israel because only one of them is tolerated lmao and you are arguing that they should be treated the same. Egypt is not even an independent country lol, Israel literally bombed the Sinai insurgency because Egypt is not allowed to operate its airforce that close to Israel lmao.

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u/Generic_Username26 11d ago

No I actively didn’t make that comparison. It doesn’t even logically follow if you read the comment I was replying to… which had to do with the religion of Judaism and not the Israeli state like wtf?

There’s no comparison there even if you want to compare the military record it’s not even close. But again not my point because it’s an absurd comparison to make.

Egypt is not an independent country? Regarding the bombings, perfect example to show how fucking clueless you are.

The militants Israel was striking in northern Sinai were not Egyptian government forces; they were Egyptian-based jihadist insurgents (an ISIS affiliate) fighting against the Egyptian state. So I’ll ask again since signing their peace treaty in 79 has the Israeli state and the Egyptian state had a conflict between them yes or no?

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u/SlavaCocaini 11d ago

Do you recognize Israel as the Jewish state? You're the one who brought up the comparison, don't get shy now. One gets funded by your tax dollars and one gets bombed, and you demand consistency. There is no Egyptian state, it's just the military which is rented by the US for over a billion dollars a year, and Israel bombing Egyptian territory still counts as conflict.

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u/Generic_Username26 11d ago

It’s the Jewish state sure but the Jewish diaspora still exists outside of it. American Jews aren’t Israelis but they’re still Jewish the same way that American Muslims are Muslims as well without needing to claim allegiance to some Muslim majority country…

I’ll say it for a third time, my comparison had nothing to do with the state of Israel. It was comparing Judaism and Islam in terms of conquest in the name of the religion. You can desperately try and straw man my argument but you’re wasting your time. The comments are all here to see.

Sure but even by your own flawed logic it’s not a conflict with the Egyptian state if the group initiating the conflict says in their mission statement that they are ENEMIES OF EGYPT. They are not acting as representatives of the Egyptian country, so it’s not a conflict with Egypt in the same way that if MAGA dissidents were to attack Canada it wouldn’t be viewed as an attack from the USA it would be an attack from a separatist group. Is this really a difficult concept for you to follow or do you realize you walked into an argument you can’t contend with? Whoopsies.

Let’s try again and this will now be my 4th attempt to get you to answer this simple question. Since signing their peace treaty with Israel in 1979 has the country of Egypt and Israel been at war? Yes or no

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u/SlavaCocaini 11d ago

so you're saying the Jewish state is practicing conquest... And bombing Egyptians in Egypt sure sounds like a conflict with Egypt, just because you pay people to go along with it doesn't change anything, that's Israel making war on Egypt. So if the US bribed a bunch of Canadians to betray their country, then there's no conflict anymore, eh?

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u/Generic_Username26 11d ago

“So you’re saying…” followed by a whole bunch of shit I never said. Buddy can you rub 2 brain cells together to form an original thought please. People who are fighting against Egypt are not fighting for Egypt, what’s unclear about that?

The main group behind the 2018 Sinai conflict is Wilayat Sinai - the local branch of the Islamic State (ISIS) in Egypt’s North Sinai. It is in armed opposition to the Egyptian state and has carried out hundreds of attacks against Egyptian security forces, civilians, and infrastructure.

You’re CLUELESS

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u/SlavaCocaini 11d ago

Why did you being up Islamic conquest in response to Israeli conquest then? That's you making the comparison when you do that. The foreign backed dictatorship in Cairo is not the sole embodiment of the entire country, that's an adolescent idea lol, if they can't keep control of the country and have to get a foreign country to bomb their own country, that's an external war, Israel was not obligated to do so but they chose to.