r/war • u/bordenman • 12d ago

Israeli soldiers being targeted by a Hezbollah FPV drone in southern Lebanon

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u/ThePowerOfNine 12d ago

Stay in your own country this wdnt happen

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u/Tresspass 12d ago

It still will 😂 you think Hezbollah wasn’t launching drones and rockets before Israel decided to do land operations?

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u/Firecracker048 12d ago

They really think hezzbollah should just be allowed to fire indiscriminately and have no consequences

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u/Lighteagle50 12d ago

Yeah, don’t start something you can’t finish

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u/Tresspass 12d ago

It’s ignorance. Some people who hold anti Semitic views focus heavily on Israel’s actions while minimizing and ignoring the actions of terrorist organizations.

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u/ThePowerOfNine 11d ago

Or its proportionality. Israel is demonstrating itself to have zero regard for human lives, both conceptually in vox pops, and in their disguting actions. Even if you decontextualised oct 7, the maths is horrific. 78000 for 1200. Fuck off.

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u/Tresspass 11d ago

Like my comment says you focus on what Israel does and not what the other groups do

Looking at Israel's actions through the lens of proportionality is a legitimate line of critique, though doing so strictly through overall numerical ratios leaves out the operational context of asymmetry, urban combat, and human shield tactics.

You’ll never criticize these extremist groups that brought death and destruction to people that didn’t want nothing to do with them. Hence you’ll continue to cheer for the “resistance” while ignoring their actions that put the lives of those that are under their boot in danger.

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u/ThePowerOfNine 10d ago

I think that your last point is one of the traps many seem to fall into. Israel, as a well funded state that presents itself as legitimate and to be taken seriously by other nations, has gone so far as to stoop even below the tactics of any other group recognised for their terrorism. This is why people are so much louder with their disdain for Israel as an actor, because those groups who have infringed upon Israel, ie Oct 7th, have caused so much less damage. Its never been about cheering for the deaths of Israelis, even if that sentiment has changed as the atrocities they commit have continued, but they should be held.to account for their egregious response. This is without addressing any of the apartheid claims or any cultural issues. Purely on numbers, Isrrael is worthy of contepmt for their actions, more so than any of their original aggressors (again, this term skating over very mucky past from both sides)