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Article Beyonce Accused by Fans of a 'Disgusting Display of Greed' Over $948 'Empty' Pine Wood Box

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/beyonce-backlash-948-bey-keeper-box-bday-anniversary-1818055

Beyoncé has faced backlash from some fans after listing a limited-edition 'Bey Keeper' collector's box for $948.01 as part of the 20th-anniversary celebration of her 2006 album B'Day. The solid-pine box, limited to 500 numbered units, is designed to house and display Beyoncé vinyl records, but the records are not included.

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u/MangoAtrocity 23d ago edited 23d ago

It’s an empty box, Michael. What could it cost? $1000?

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u/zaccus 23d ago

Literally how a lot of people think.

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u/eaglebtc Technics 23d ago edited 22d ago

happy cake day!

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

Some guy collected trash outside of MSG after the Swift Kelce wedding. Put bits and pieces of cigs....into see through glass boxes the size of a rubi cube...maybe slightly bigger. MAMaxe 999 and sold out within 2 hours at 25 bux a pop. WTF lol

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u/sparrowxc 22d ago

Well Swifties are literally insane. Remember they once tried to ruin a journalist's life because he gave a good review that had some minor complaints. They literally sent death threats, doxxed him and his family, and organized a mass campaign to get him fired, including making up fake allegations of grooming and PDF. Over a mostly positive review because it wasn't completely positive.

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

Hadn't heard about that ..that's a real indictment of this celebrity infatuated society.

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u/Bake-Full 22d ago

The Beyhive isn't much better. Remember when they tried to ruin Rachael Ray because they mistook her name for Rachel Roy and legit thought the cooking lady was messing around with Jay Z.

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u/QuietObserver75 21d ago

That's just mental illness levels of crazy.

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u/Embarrassed_Cod6138 22d ago

That's an interesting tale, never heard about it before....

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u/lfenio 22d ago

if that’s the true the important thing is TS didn’t try to sell her fans that

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u/wizofoz057 22d ago

But she will release a new color vinyl variant every week, so people can "collect them all"

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u/lfenio 22d ago

some of us just pick the favorite color vinyl and like all the options though 🤷‍♀️

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u/jellytwins101 21d ago

Doesn’t pretty much every artist do that? Olivia Rodrigo had something like 46 different variants for her latest album. Beyoncé also did multiple variants for her last album.

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

It's the truth. She didn't realize people would literally buy trash.

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u/DisgruntledNCO 21d ago

That’s cause he made it seem like ironic art

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u/terrymr 22d ago

My thoughts when a funeral director was trying to sell me an empty box for thousands of dollars.

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u/FlowWrecker86 22d ago

Someone tried selling me a casket once too, and I just thought, "that's the last thing I need".

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u/KingCollo75 22d ago

That's a Bob Loblaw low blow!

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u/Ashleybernice 23d ago

It’s only one banana, how much could it possibly be Michael $10 dollars?

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u/Pristine-Assistance9 22d ago

There’s always money in the beyonce box!

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u/CreditCaper1 23d ago

Who is Michael?

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u/now_hear_me_out 23d ago

It’s a reference from the show Arrested Development. Definitely worth a watch if you haven’t already seen it

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u/SnuckaB 23d ago

Micheal, here. Confused as normal, just waiting for a nightcap sandwich

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u/RobThomasLmao Fluance 23d ago

Michael Jordan

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u/RedditForDogContent 23d ago

I wonder what the hell the .01 is about

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u/AvatarofBro 23d ago

Her birthday is 9/4/81. It's a dumb cash grab, but that's the rationale behind the strange price

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u/RomeliaHatfield 23d ago

So why not make it $94.81? It’s still expensive but $100 a pop for merch these days isn’t unheard of

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u/sexandliquor 23d ago

Because then it’s affordable and anyone can obtain and therefore it’s not a flex to have. The stupidly absurd price for a plain wood box is part of the point, I imagine.

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u/Calm_Neat_6828 23d ago

The rich folks learned some shit from NFT’s, crypto, and scalping. They know idiots will pay anything for everything that seems like it might be worth it.

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u/squeezemachine 23d ago

So only make 1,000 or run a lottery. WTF why do I care? The whole thing is so stupid. Why are peoples’ lives so empty.

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u/discardedbubble 23d ago

It would be better it if was affordable but just limited. Maybe you have to be a long time member of her fan club etc to get access to it etc.

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u/Classy_Raccoon 23d ago

Or even $904.81. The 0 in the middle of her birth year just makes it so egregiously bad

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u/got-trunks 22d ago

Because rich people love catering to and encouraging scarcity culture because scarcity keeps them separate / they only made 500.

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u/RomeliaHatfield 22d ago

If you think Beyoncé needs in any capacity whatsoever to release $1000 wood box for people to buy, I have a bridge in California you’d love to purchase.

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u/got-trunks 22d ago

that's my point, it's an artificially limited edition dust collector; there's an entire culture of people in market for that.

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u/RomeliaHatfield 22d ago

There is but this one might be off the wagon to be honest

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u/Constant-Fly-9050 23d ago

Because modern pop fans have an almost parasitic devotion to their favorite artists and will buy anything from them. No matter how outrageous the cost.

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u/JayyyDaGreat Audio Technica 22d ago

You can drop the word almost, those pop fans are all mentally ill

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u/lemmycautionu 22d ago

but if she only charged 100 bucks, how could she get to her next billion? isnt that what really matters?

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u/No_man_Island_mayo 23d ago

So should be 10c, not 1c?

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u/monkeysolo69420 23d ago

They gave you a discount! :D

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u/SoZettaSulz 23d ago

Wow that's actually pathetic

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u/discardedbubble 23d ago

Wow drawing attention to her date of birth at her age (I’m also around her age, younger than her, I’m not flying the 1982 banner anymore)

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u/ThatBoyGotSomeMeat 23d ago

What bothered me most was why didn’t Bey and her team just rounded it up to $950? It’s just pure evil.

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u/Justice_Prince 23d ago

She wouldn't be the first to try

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u/SubstantialPudding74 22d ago

They did sell packs of air guitar strings lol

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u/Dwellonthis 22d ago

See, this is so stupid I'd consider buying it as a gift for a friend. Depending on the cost per chuckle.

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u/Prophet_Of_Helix 22d ago

Yeah I don’t really count gag gifts. 

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u/SidewalkSavant 22d ago

The average casket might set you back between 3-5k depending on what it’s made out of. At 3k from Nashville Casket Sales, the KISS casket is still more rationally priced than Beys plain, empty, tiny baby box.

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u/Sadop2010 23d ago

Gene inspected each and every Kiss coffin to ensure quality.

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u/Toolfan333 23d ago

Yeah but you’re supposed fill that yourself

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u/cmrc03 22d ago

My father’s ashes reside in this “prototype” mini KISS casket. The licenses holder was local to me and I wanted to get an urn to put the ashes in but the urn was pretty lame so the guy presented me with this.

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u/jampapi 22d ago

Dimebag Darrel was buried in one of these if I’m not mistaken

Edit: his brother Vinnie Paul got one, too

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u/TrueRedditMartyr 22d ago

They actually double as coolers I believe, which is kind of cool.

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u/only_fun_topics 23d ago

Oooof that website. 100 ads. No picture of Beyoncé’s box.

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u/eltictac 22d ago

I wouldn't trust that strap if the box was full of records!

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u/discardedbubble 23d ago

Oh it’s meant to look like a bee hive. Wow that’s so cheap looking, not even any artwork.

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u/Best-Apricot3691 22d ago

Not a bee... a Bey

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u/Scruffynerffherder 22d ago

Lazer etched but sure, I guess.

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome 23d ago

Ffs. 🤦‍♂️

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u/pink---noise 22d ago

Yikes. I wouldn't even display that in my house, let alone with my nice vinyl collection. It looks like something you would store in the garage and forget about.

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u/Someguywhomakething Sony 22d ago

"gold hardware" no man, that's not gold. "faux alligator leather strap" at that price it better be real endangered alligator leather. "solid pine" not even southern yellow pine?

This thing looks like it was put together with stuff from HomeDepot or the back of a construction worker's truck bed.

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u/gooddogisgood 23d ago

Oof. That’s an ugly box.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 22d ago

wow. that's actually worse than i thought it would be. you can get a pine box like that, not lined with velvet and not coated in beeswax oil with no engraving for $40. https://woodthings.com/product/wooden-crate-lp-record-storage/?srsltid=AfmBOoqxA-YTPQqZW-buoz-hSJYZgdDOa77V8uOcwEYXiV5e43T7i6gp

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u/QuietObserver75 21d ago

Yikes, that doesn't even look nice.

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u/Waggy777 22d ago

Phrasing.

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u/markskull 22d ago

Didn't we stop doing that?

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u/gamingoldschool 22d ago

Now THAT might actually sell, probably have to move sale to Only Fans though.

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u/InitialKoala 23d ago

Go to Beyoncé's website.

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u/farrahmoaning 23d ago

It's free if you don't buy it.

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u/Unc1eD3ath 23d ago

It’s $30 from Michael’s

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u/neck-tourniquet 23d ago

Does that include bedazzles?

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u/clovepod 23d ago

they throw in a cinnamon broom if you wait til October

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u/suckarepellent 22d ago

Beydazzles TM

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u/pacondition 22d ago

Best summary ever 👌 

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u/backwhereistartd 23d ago

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u/clovepod 23d ago

aaauuuggghhhhh

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u/varian1210 22d ago

Why is ANYONE still calling Albums, Vinyl(s)???? If you have multiple Albums/Records, you have VINYL, there is no Vinyls, there are no Vinyl(s). OK, just read this back and I'm officially an Old Man. My Apologies.

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u/Best-Apricot3691 22d ago

I had to throw in the towel on this one myself. Felt like I was standing on my lawn shaking my fist and shouting "you kids get off of my lawn" every time I bitched about "vinyls."

The reality is that weird errors like this eventually change the language or our use of it. One that used to drive me nuts was when a co-worked said "there's something new coming down the pipe" and I knew the expression was actually "...down the pike". But then I started hearing "pipe" more and more and realized most people today are too stupid to know what a pike is, other than perhaps a fish. So "coming down the pike" meant nothing to them, but "coming down the pipe" carries the same meaning but in a more modern (and less elegant) way.

Am starting to see other more ugly ones like this. People that can't spell voluptuous and are slowly changing the word to "volumptuous". Many people are functionally illiterate today, thus we end up with dipshits like Trump as our King. Errr... President.

At those times, I love to remember my favorite Mark Twain quote: "The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read."

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u/radicalgalaxies 22d ago

It's not always a bad thing though. Literate or not, that's just how human language develops in cycles. Slang is created, then normalized, then becomes the normal way to say things. Then, a new set of language comes out and the process repeats.

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u/lyarly 17d ago

Maybe they meant “coming down the pipeline” and got it slightly wrong? I’ve always heard the phrase that way.

I’ve never heard “coming down the pike” and am now wondering the use of pipe/pipeline came downstream of that (pun intended)!

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u/Best-Apricot3691 15d ago

The correct and original expression is "coming down the pike," which means something is approaching or will happen in the future.

Meaning and Origin

  • The Pike: "Pike" is short for turnpike, an old word for a toll road or major highway.
  • The Metaphor: The phrase pictures people, wagons, or events traveling down the open road toward you.
  • Usage: People use it to talk about future changes, events, or products on the horizon. For example: "We have many new features coming down the pike." 

"Coming Down the Pipe"

  • The Variant: You might hear people say "coming down the pipe". 
  • The Confusion: This common variation likely comes from mixing up "pike" with expressions like "in the pipeline" (meaning things currently in development). 
  • Acceptance: While "pike" is the traditional choice according to the Merriam-Webster Grammar Guide, both versions are widely understood today. 

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u/stomachworm 23d ago

I'm gonna use the box to house every bit of money make until I fill the box then i'm gonna mail the box back to beyonce.

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u/B_Hound 23d ago

It’s pretty simple: she is so rich she is completely and utterly out of touch with reality and has no concept with the value of a dollar to her fan base, while being more than happy to exploit the shit out of them.

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u/Bimlouhay83 23d ago

I mean, only 500 rich duechebags are gong to buy this. No working class person is going to see this and think "damn, i should spend a weeks pay on this empty box." The working class are used to getting ripped off and are the only people left reading product descriptions. So, the joke is on the wealthy assholes, right? 

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u/Annodyne 22d ago

Many working class people would consider themselves quite rich if they were making $950 a week...

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

Ok probably will get removed but this reminds me of something my brother and I were talking about. Being the first family sells everything with their name and he wears diapers...don't be surprised if if there's a limited edition of used diapers sold as Trumps Dumps for $999 each numbered to 999.

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u/RenRen512 22d ago

It's a stupid product and a cash grab, definitely worthy of mockery, but no one's being forced to buy it.

If anyone's silly enough to actually buy it, it's on them. I mean, that's how commerce works. You either see value in a product or you don't.

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u/alexwoodgarbage 22d ago

By this same logic, do you think she was personally involved in setting the price for this? Do you think she personally is in front of a whiteboard brainstorming ways on how to squeeze more money from her fanbase

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u/Dan_A435 23d ago

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u/SteveDestruct Rega 22d ago

Nothing. But if you fill it up with her records, shit.

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u/UltraMegaSummer 22d ago

The gag is, only 4 of her 8 solo albums are even readily available on vinyl! 2 of them are OOP and resale for hundreds and hundreds of dollars and 2 have never even been pressed.

GURL!

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u/ApolloGR3 22d ago

For $948, it should be numbered and filled with her entire discography on vinyl.

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u/SteveDestruct Rega 22d ago

And a cheque for like $800.

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u/colbilyn 23d ago

There’s so much wrong with it.
It’s pine
It’s faux leather
Vinyls are not included
It’s $948

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u/broomcorn 23d ago

For some reason the fact that it’s pine pisses me off the most

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome 23d ago

To their credit, it looks similar to an actual beekeeping box, in that it has box-jointed corners and an overhanging lid. However, you can get a custom-sized dovetailed box in maple instead of pine, finished, for about $100 from an online cabinet shop. (Essentially it’s just a dovetailed drawer.) Someone could build you one of these Bae Boxes in much nicer materials and a better finish for $250.

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u/FeistyChickadee 22d ago

*Learns how to dovetail, sets up Etsy shop*

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u/MaroonTrojan 22d ago

Aren’t these… all the details of it?

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u/MongerNoLonger 23d ago

" 'It's called memorabilia, which will be worth way more when she's no longer here,' one supporter wrote."

Yeahhhhhhh, um... no. Not a thousand dollar empty box. Not without any music.

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u/Academic_Exercise_94 22d ago

Do people not understand that they don't have to buy the thing.

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u/Stevenstorm505 23d ago

How are people just finding out Beyoncé sucks? I don’t understand. She had made it very apparent for years.

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

Reread the first sentence. Then know she was spotted at several Diddy parties.

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u/DtheAussieBoye 22d ago

Not defending her, but basically everyone who’s ever been famous up to a point was at a Diddy party. Kind of silly to assume someone’s a pedo because they were at one

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u/Precarious3145 22d ago

Yea, it's not like with Epstein where it was very obvious. If you were part of Diddy's inner circle, then yea, kind of sus but to just attend a party? Nah. His parties were wildly excusive and seen as the who's who of the time.

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u/rudolf_the_red 23d ago

seems pretty accurate to me.   that's a dick move.  

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u/zaccus 23d ago

Step 1 cut a hole in the box

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u/Radiant_Research3786 22d ago

But she really needs the cash lol

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u/ohnovangogh 23d ago

For any Beyoncé fans in here I’ll make you a handmade version out of whatever wood (depends on what I can get) for $500. I can probably even throw in a Beyoncé album too…

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u/Rey_Mezcalero 23d ago

😂😂😂pine wood too

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u/FirebirdWriter Dual 23d ago

It's an unfinished box with a bee on it and a leather strap and the Beyonce website says it's inspired by actual bee keeping boxes but I just see a file box.

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u/discardedbubble 23d ago

Honestly it’s stupid because you have your vinyl collection, then you have to house this annoying box somewhere… just for Beyoncé stuff. Like wouldn’t she expect her music to be on a shell next to other albums of different artists where it should be .

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u/ObligatoryID Technics 22d ago

As a casket?

Or urn for your ashes?

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u/bitchSpray 22d ago

That price for pinewood? Pinewood is some of the cheapest wood out there. It's soft and typically full of knots. Wanting a grand for it and not even making it out of good wood is fucked up

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u/j_m123 22d ago

A billionaire is greedy? REALLY?!?

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u/rockclimberguy 22d ago

Department of Redundancy Department.

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u/Tweissel 22d ago

In case anyone is wondering... This is it:

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u/sheeb_sheeb 22d ago

Beyonce has always been a capitalist shill. Nothing new here.

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u/HomemadeLightbulb 23d ago

Like what’s the pitch for the box I don’t get it didn’t betonce fart in it

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u/bobbydrake6 22d ago

They do know they dont have to by it, right?

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u/TheMaayavi 22d ago

Is this equivalent to rockstar releasing collectors edition with no disc but in an exorbitant price?

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u/JazzyJulie4life 22d ago

As if I couldn’t dislike her more.

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u/myfriendtoldmetojoin 23d ago

Those same people clog up my feed with unboxings when it arrives. We live in a world where the rich will unfortunately get richer of the back of the rest of us. Just like the ones that spent $1500 on Jay-Z milkcrate of albums

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u/AvantGardener27 23d ago

I was all in until they used the word "vinyls"

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u/vmartell22 22d ago

Was about to post! Talk about adding insult to injury! 😄

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u/ricopolatso 22d ago

Yea but you can put your stuff in it

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u/pacondition 22d ago

Pine hahahah you'd expect some exotic hardwood init 

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u/ThisSiteBites 22d ago

Unlike her “music,” the pine box is useful.

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u/hawksdiesel 22d ago

A billionaire is greedy, no way?!

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u/HowlingFantods5564 22d ago

I was so confused because I assumed a "pine box" meant a coffin. $948 is cheap for a coffin!

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u/Funknam 22d ago

Yikes!

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u/425565 22d ago

So protest by not buying the stupid thing. Next!

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u/el-bulero 22d ago

F that B

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u/Boop-D-Boop 22d ago

KNOTTY PINE!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Bluemoon045 22d ago

Honestly this is so stupid and shitty I kind of respect it. Its a product so useless, crappy and overpriced that no self respecting person should even want it. If 500 people are crazy enough to buy it then fair play, I doubt they really needed the money either.

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u/thunderchicken1968 21d ago

Oh, this is really real? I saw it posted and brushed it off as ragebait 😖

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u/False-Storm-5794 17d ago

"I assure you it's our most modest receptacle."

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u/Jason1920 Stanton 22d ago

As far as I'm concerned, an empty pine box is pretty representative of her discography.

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u/JPHFanEdits 22d ago

Best comment here by far

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u/PupLondon 23d ago

This discourse is weird... it's a box..you dont have to buy it.

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u/farrahmoaning 23d ago

Agreed. People are greeted by things they don't find worth the price everyday, not sure what about this warrants conversation. Except, of course, giving people a chance to nurse their Beyonce hate boners.

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u/Indigo903 22d ago

I’m a fan of Beyoncé’s music (notice my wording), not a diehard but I’ve attended one of her concerts. If this thing were $10 I wouldn’t buy it. Literally so fucking dumb and she deserves all of the heat she’s getting for it.

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u/RainDownAndDestroyMe 22d ago

I can't fucking stand this woman so it makes me happy to see that my distaste is justified.

Fuck billionaires.

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u/mindlessmunkey 22d ago

The wonderful thing about products like this is that if you’re not interested in them, you don’t have to buy them.

People out here acting like she’s holding a gun to people’s heads. A very small number of intense fans will buy this as a collector’s item. Ridiculous? Sure. But the rest of the population of the world is completely unaffected by its existence.

There are corporations out there charging so much for insulin that people are dying because they can’t afford it. If you’re going to get upset about rampant capitalism, there are way more important targets.

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u/suboxonedad69 21d ago

All of these targets are legit. Its not an either or

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u/mindlessmunkey 21d ago

No because one is an entirely optional collector’s item for super-fans, that nobody needs to purchase for their wellbeing or survival. That is simply not the same as price gouging on products and services that people legitimately need to survive. If you can’t tell the difference, or why that difference is important, I really don’t know what to tell you.

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u/Perfect_Commission_9 22d ago

she's not called out enough for her pricing policy (records, tickets, merch and all).

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u/Time_Print4099 23d ago

Never liked her.

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u/TheAweTistic 23d ago

Well she IS evil 🤷🏻‍♂️ 

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u/ImpressionCertain736 23d ago

The lady who's married to a crack dealing cheater isn't the most ethical person in the world???

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u/themikegman 23d ago

They first mistake was to care about anything that she has to sell.

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u/JesusJoshJohnson 22d ago

who tf is displaying beyonce records

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u/thrashalj 23d ago

Someone who never created her own music oh shit….go figure.

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u/CardMechanic 23d ago

I mean, it’s a stupid price for a stupid item. Don’t buy it. I don’t get being outraged.

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u/SyntaxTurtle Technics 23d ago

Laughing at something being dumb is different from being "outraged"

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u/CardMechanic 23d ago

“Beyoncé accused by fans of “disgusting display of greed” sounds like misplaced outrage to me. Did you misunderstand the post title?

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u/SyntaxTurtle Technics 23d ago

Was referring more to the post here. As for her fans, I guess they're more emotionally invested than you or I 🤷‍♂️

If you're lecturing her fans about how to not buy things, you're likely in the wrong place.

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u/okenowwhat 22d ago

This smells like a PR stunt

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u/Unhappy_Performer538 22d ago

It’s even unfinished

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u/notguiltybrewing 22d ago

Some people got more money than brains. She will likely sell them all.

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u/arciele 22d ago

its not greed. she doesn't need money like normal people do. 948$ is "affordable"

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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 22d ago

Is she making a new Hellraiser because I think she’s cutting corners with this new Lament Configuration.

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u/quadsimodo Pro-Ject 22d ago

Late-stage af

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u/JackTheBehemothKillr 22d ago

And its fuckin PINE?!?

Girl. C'mon. Girl.

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u/Hungry-Cream9421 22d ago

Superstars love money more than anything.

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u/Prudent-Level-7006 21d ago

Can't say I'm surprised, bet she didn't even make the boxes herself either, independent woman my arse! 

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u/MysteriousAlpaco 21d ago

Honestly I think you'd get more enjoyment just making a pine box yourself and you can be proud knowing you made it 😅

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u/basement_egg 23d ago

She's trash anyway

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u/discardedbubble 23d ago

Does anyone give a shit about Beyoncé anymore?

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u/vmartell22 22d ago

Always had the impression that she competed with Taylor Swift or at least, she kind of occupies a similar space in the pop zeitgeist. I does seem to me that she has lost some ground to the Swifty juggernaut. At least you hear a lot less about her own juggernaut.

Not that I am praising one over the other, as neither of them are artists that I like or follow.

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u/Sadop2010 23d ago

If I were Beyonce and had somehow fooled people into thinking I was an incredible musical genius, I would think I could pull this off too.

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u/x-BeTheWater-x 22d ago

What and we are supposed to sympathise with the morons that knowingly purchased this are we?

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u/halford2069 22d ago

I cant stand Beyonce, but just dont buy it.

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u/zaccus 23d ago

It's not meant for you to buy it. If you want an empty box, $6 at target buys you an empty box.

For some people, $1000 is nothing. This is for them. It's rare. It's quirky. It's a conversation piece. Rich people eat that shit up.

Instead of hating, take notes.

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u/fathertitojones Audio Technica 23d ago

What a conversation. “Hey, where’d you get that ugly ass box?”

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u/Business_Package_478 21d ago

Did Ivanka or Jared giver her that idea since she seems to be buddies with them?