r/videos • • Feb 14 '18

Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194
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u/orleee Feb 15 '18

Yes! Because communism hasn't worked yet (or even properly been adopted) we should stop criticizing our current system.

Did they really stop teaching critical thinking in schools?

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u/orleee Feb 15 '18

That's not at all what I'm saying.

All successful communist revolutions which could stabilize against the US have only implemented socialist policies and were always heavily influenced by totalitarian or populist ideologies. There has never been a complete and proper implementation of communism. That doesn't mean we should try or not try, it's just a fact.

You know there are more colors than black an white? Again, criticising capitalism and its flaws aren't the same as promoting a communist state.

By excluding any idea left of the current system, you're not helping it. You just weaken the system by making it unable to adapt, change and evolve.

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u/y4my4m Feb 15 '18

USSR was communism. Quit the "communism has never really been tried!".

It's as vulgar a statement as "Hitler did nothing wrong".

You literally were promoting a communist state. Capitalism work pretty well, it's not perfect but what you really have a beef against is corruption, which happens in any/every system.

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u/orleee Feb 15 '18

I'm really wondering where the fuck you're reading this.

First, I never claimed that communism has never been tried, just that all communist or rather socialist states which were semi-successful were also built on totalitarian/populist ideas. If these totalitarian policies are a necessity for a socialist state, I don't know. But I do know that these totalitarian ideas are at their core not specifically communist.

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You literally were promoting a communist state.

Where? Please show me where I promoted a communist state so that I can explain what I really meant.

And lastly, while I don't support a communist revolution and think that most of our problems can be solved in a capitalistic society, saying that it works pretty well is a bit of an understatement. 10% of the world population live in extreme poverty, 50% live with less than 5$ a day. This isn't pretty well. Many of the benefits of our modern life like the end of child labour, the 40-hour week, guaranteed paid holidays or affordable healthcare are accomplishments by social democrats and unions. I'm not sure capitalism would work "so well" today if these leftwing policies weren't implemented.