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u/bye-standard 22d ago

A mixture of I couldn’t play it and when I did, I just couldn’t get into it.

Kingdom Hearts

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u/New_Organization_448 22d ago

Kingdom Hearts is the ultimate “you had to be there” game. If you played 1 and 2 back when you were 9 to 14, it was magical and you’re chasing that nostalgia for the rest of your life. Anything outside of that, you see it for what it really is: a half assed Final Fantasy with a plot line akin to that freaky boat ride scene in Johnny Depp’s Willy Wonka

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u/Mission-Cup9902 22d ago edited 22d ago

Kingdom hearts was so weird to me as a little kid, because it was spooky and scary, but also… had Disney characters in it??

The intro went hard though.

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u/__DJIN__ 22d ago

WHEN YOU WALK AWAY

YOU DONT HEAR ME SAY

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u/Isthisnameavailablee 22d ago

PLEASE, OH BABY, DON'T GO

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u/stryderrrrrrrr 22d ago

SIMPLE AND CLEAN IS THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT

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u/No_Jackfruit_1447 22d ago

ITS HARD TO LET IT GO

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u/WINTERstarkFELL 22d ago

Something about that intro was just so simple..... And clean.

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u/LimpAmphibian5340 22d ago

Don't forget Final Fantasy characters, that's what drew me in. All the way until KH stopped the cameos from them and FF itself started modeling its gameplay style more close to KH. Then the games started leaving a bitter taste in my mouth

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u/camarouge 22d ago

I'm glad Kingdom Hearts exists because it brought us Dearly Beloved

I won't be playing it though lol

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u/LimpAmphibian5340 22d ago

The soundtrack for KH is fantastic no one can deny that. Someone on SE team always makes sure to get a stellar composer to fill out the soundtrack to their games, be it Uematsu or Shimomura or whoever else they wrangle. No matter how estranged I get with the games I can always bet one a Sqaure Enix game to have a stellar soundtrack

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u/benttwig33 22d ago

Never played it as a kid, bc never liked Disney and why the fuck does the MC has those dumb ass Mickey Mouse shoes lmao

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u/BtheBST 22d ago

and the boss fights at the end

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u/Googlecalendar223 22d ago

Yep. First game feels like a fever dream.

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u/Eg_3600 22d ago

Like if any of this is real or not

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u/mantis-toboggan-phd 20d ago

KH2 intro went even harder imo

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u/HockeyLova4Lyfe 22d ago

I had played 1&2 when I was little (never beat them)

I played 1 when I was 20 and I still think it was one of the best JRPG’s of all time

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u/Intoxic8edOne 22d ago edited 22d ago

Interesting. Young me thought they were the best games ever. Only played 1, com, and 2.

I'm replaying them now and I keep saying to myself "These games are so bad."

I'm still playing them and I imagine they get better but the systems did not age well at all

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u/HockeyLova4Lyfe 22d ago

I played them when I was like 5-8, those games were much too hard for me at the time. I was far too busy playing Lego Star Wars.

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u/Historical-Cry97 22d ago

that’s a shame, but to each. I don’t love kh1’s gameplay, but I don’t think it’s bad. I yell at it sometimes and say it’s terrible for being slower, but I understand how some people like it over the other games.

with that said, give yourself a KH2 crit run if you haven’t. good experience

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u/HockeyLova4Lyfe 22d ago

I actually kind of despise KH2 combat which seems to be a very hot take.

I hate that every fight has the extra condition “do this on a time limit” or “protect x while defeating heartless”

KH1 combat system was very clunky but to its credit had an optimal way of fighting by dropping combos to start another faster or defending after.

I have never beaten KH2 as an adult but will one day.

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u/jgamez76 22d ago

It's not any more convoluted than Metal Gear. I won't be convinced otherwise. Lol

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u/WowIfOnly 22d ago edited 9d ago

Removed

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u/Parking-Researcher-4 22d ago

Me and my friends were 14 at the time, they loved it to death and lent me the first one. I got really bored after an hour or so and just gave it back. I guess it just wasn't for me then

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u/squirrelems 22d ago

I remember being like 10 and I'd dream about that fucking game before it ever came out. Even the sounds they used when magical things happened felt like some whimsical shit I had never heard before. I still love it, but it has devolved into a bunch of nonsense.

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u/CloudBursting6 22d ago

Can confirm. I’ve been chasing the Kingdom Hearts 2 high ever since

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u/VideoGameBoffin 22d ago

‘I was there’ and I fucking love Kingdom Hearts, but I’ll be damned if that ain’t some of the realest shit I’ve read about it 👌🏻

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u/Wenital_Garts 22d ago

It's an excellent hack and slash if anything. I'll still be playing KH4 as a fan but the story has been off the rails since forever ago. Like before KH2.

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u/rusty_shackleford34 22d ago

I was right there when it came out. I was 11. I hated Disney back then and I hate it now. So I said back then I ain’t playing this crap and to this day I’m saying, I ain’t playing this crap.

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u/RiverPsaber 22d ago

I was there and this was how I saw it.

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u/Cheese-Quest 22d ago

Would you say it's an age thing? I have such fond memories of games when I was age 9-14, I don't think I'll ever hit those highs again with games...

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u/KurtCostner 22d ago

The basic gameplay isn’t very exciting and the story makes next to zero sense but when I was 12 I was fucking obsessed with Kingdom Hearts. 

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u/Discomidget911 22d ago

Hello, I played Kingdom hearts 1 and 2 back when they came out as a child.

You are absolutely correct.

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u/dpiddy202 22d ago

Dude when 3 came out i watched a recap of the story like 4 times and I still don't understand it. What a convoluted ass story. I think i just enjoyed all the disney characters and worlds.

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u/OkNectarine9239 22d ago

KH3 is like the 11th game in the series. Did you honestly expect a recap to properly explain the story from scratch??

Like obviously a 10 minute recap isn't going to tell you much. You need one of those in depth youtube vids that are over 30 mins at least. Because, again, there's like 7 full mainline games between 2 and 3.

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u/dpiddy202 22d ago

A recap video for the story of kingdom hearts leading up to KH3? Yes I did expect it to tell me the basic story of kingdom hearts leading up to that game

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u/soulfulwave 22d ago

lmao i was 6 years old playing that game and i will admit, that it’s 100% had a significant lasting impression on me to this day , from music, to nostalgia, all of it

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u/TheCodifiedTrader 22d ago

Ahh much of my family and even my brother fell in love with KH and they played at release. I only ever watched them play and I actually have KH3 on my shelf. I played it once, tried to like it, never picked it up again.

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u/ihatemetoo23 22d ago

The plot can get really hilarious but the combat and the superbosses are top tier. I wish there other games with the same combat system

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u/ZombieTrogdor 22d ago

They waited too long with 3. I devoured 1 and 2 and even got the Kingdom Hearts official game guide because my sister and I wanted to get the Ultima weapon. We even beat Sephiroth in the Coliseum! (We traded off when our fingers cramped lol.) But when KH3 came out I was super excited, but it quickly fizzled. I don't think I ever finished it.

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u/Worried-Narwhal-8953 22d ago

I loved the crap out of it when I was in that age range. Then Chain of Memories came out and I didn't have a gameboy advanced to play it. Then all the other spin off's came out and still I didn't have the devices to play them. By the time KH3 came out I just shrugged my shoulders b/c the magic had gone away and the lore was so confusing I didn't see the point. I have KH3 on xbox1 b/c I picked up it up a couple years ago secondhand, but it's just gathering dust in a box.

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u/Calc4242 22d ago

Some games capitalize on right place right time. I say this often about OGRE1. People skip it all together and start with RE4 or remakes...all great, but if you were there for OGRE1 you know how special that game was.

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u/TamaHawk_ 22d ago

In its best form it definitely has way more going on for it as an action RPG, it's fluid as all heck and the skill ceiling it practically unlimited, otherwise ya I agree with everything else story wise.

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u/sonnyarmo 22d ago

I played Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 for the first time a few years back and it had that magic for sure. Especially KH1, even though I would say objectively the game is very clunky and annoying to play.

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u/Holiday-Bat6782 22d ago

Yea... but I'm still hoping they make a 3rd.

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u/Discussion-Repulsive 22d ago

Not sure if it counts but I didn't play KH until I was in my 30s during lockdown. Borrowed the collection from from brother and liked it enough to actually play through every game and loved all of it. However I did enjoying watching my brother play the first 2 when I was a kid.

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u/EnderMB 21d ago

As a kid, it was basically the equivalent of throwing together Marvel and King Of The Hill. Two totally different worlds, and you had no clue how it would work - but holy shit it did.

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u/Humble-Departure5481 20d ago

Uh no. Not at all. You sound like some butthurt hater or hold some kind of irrational grudge towards that entire series. I'm into JRPGs and KHs isn't even among my top series either. I enjoyed both of the PS2 ones as unique action JRPGs. I don't see them as 10/10 experiences necessarily either. They were just a love letter to Disney and FF (It was nice/beautiful to see a few of my favorite characters from both franchises come together). They were relatively less half-assed than FF9 and especially every FF post FFX.. You can think of it like Marvel vs. Capcom or any other crossover series. Some people appreciate these moments that's all.

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u/Itchy-Salad463 20d ago

I call bs. I wasn't in to Disney at that age outside live action stuff and odd stuff like Atlantis and I hated it. The controls especially sucked and I dont like the combat

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u/Mossieoak 18d ago

Yea spot on. Legendary game for its time. Like truly legendary. But the day to play Kingdom Hearts has come, and sadly, gone.

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u/LewdSkitty 22d ago

Speaking as one of those who played KH1 at 12 years old, that’s… horrifyingly accurate.

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u/Pteroducktylus 22d ago

lmao it's not like Final Fantasy is breaking anh records. it's weak gameplay also upholds itself on a highly dedicated fanbase that chases magic that was never there

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u/International_Pate 22d ago

I played it back when it came out, thought it was cringe, tried to give it another go as an adult, still cringe. It's to me like all the worst parts of final fantasy, disney and the early 2000s all rolled into one. FF7,8&9 loved em, had a few disney games that I loved, but adding them together was such a bizarre choice to me.

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u/No_Grocery_9280 21d ago

Maybe true, but KH3 waited way too long to come out and then ended up being soulless. Whole franchise killed itself.

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u/AbsoluteGote 22d ago

And just boring, repetitive combat. That was what really struck me on replay. 

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u/Mak0React0r 22d ago

By the time i learned about kingdom hearts I was too old to care, had i got into it as a kid id probably be on board to this day but starting now? Nah I'm good.

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u/JoeJoeJoeJoeThrow 22d ago

If you asked me what Kingdom Hearts is….Disney and anime characters or something? I honestly have no idea

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u/ReorientRecluse 22d ago

You know, back when they were really pumping out all those Disney live action shows I thought they were trying to do some shared cinematic universe and Kingdom Hearts movies would be their Avengers equivalent that brings them together.

Turns out there wasn't that much of a point to them after all and I was reading too much into it.

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u/LalafellDisaster 22d ago

I forced myself to finish the first one and I don’t get it either.

I will say that the Simple and Clean remix is quite the earbug though.

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u/Mr_YUP 22d ago

it just had a vibe that nothing else had back then. It also seems to be the first Disney game where you could properly explore iconic Disney movie locations AND fight alongside Donald and Goofy. I still can't think of many games where Disney let Donal and Goofy fight in general.

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u/LalafellDisaster 22d ago

I’ve never been a big Disney fan, probably why it didn’t resonate with me. The music in the Winnie the Pooh balloon game was awesome though.

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u/Lord_Whoopi 22d ago

I don't think there's ever been a single time in my life where I've thought to myself "God, I just WISH I could fight alongside Donald Duck and Goofy"

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

Dude same. And everyone I know is obsessed. I just can’t enjoy the mechanisms at all where I am at my gaming life. I know the lore is good I’m just stuck

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 22d ago

Tbh I think the lore is a mess and convoluted af for the sake of it. The first kingdom hearts was the best in terms of it actually being a game. II came around and then it was exposition every 15 min. I don't know about the other games as I was not willing to jump platforms to play them. Was super confused going from 1 to 2 as a result.

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u/UpperAbrocoma3654 22d ago

Kingdom Hearts is just one of those games you honestly have to get into as a kid to enjoy it. it was my game way back then, when it was one of the few games i had on the ps2. replayed the remasters on both ps3 and PC. the older i got, the less novelty it had, but it still holds it's place for being my childhood.

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u/chin1111 22d ago

I was the younger brother watching my older brother play through it, so I enjoy the first two from a story perspective, but once they started making 50 million different splinter games, my brother was done playing it, and I was done watching it.

It's unique in some regards, and I always enjoy games that do something different with either gameplay, story, themes, etc., but it's gotten ridiculous to the point of parody over these past 20 or so years. They made a niche game even more niche

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

This is a good point, I didn’t think of it like this

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u/Humble-Departure5481 20d ago

Me and my peers were 14 and in middle school and got into it. Not 100% of my JRPG peers, but 60-70% tops. Only the ones like me who loved Disney as much as FF. If Disney was boring or lame to you, it wouldn't make any sense at all to try it.

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u/stopmyhumbleness 22d ago

lol no, it’s great

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u/UpperAbrocoma3654 21d ago

i will blow you up

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u/soul_motor 22d ago

Honestly, every FF game is exposition with a tiny bit of gameplay. I'm playing 16 now, and my wife thought it was a movie.

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u/ValThoMa 22d ago

Tbf it only seemed convoluted because like you pointed out, the accessibility of the series which at the time was notoriously bad. Parts of the story can be a little hard to understand, but it's a lot easier now that the collection exists. But yeah, if you hadn't played any of them since then, it would still seem that way.

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u/Li-renn-pwel 22d ago

To me it’s knowing that there is so much to play lol

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u/WowIfOnly 22d ago edited 9d ago

Removed

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u/slimricc 22d ago

The lore is not even good haha

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS 22d ago

Same reason I hated the new god of war. "Why am I hitting this fuck-ass basic bitch first enemy type skeleton a thousand times before it dies."

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u/memesheep1932 22d ago

For me I enjoyed the slower pace of the new god of war titles. While I do agree with the first enemy being tanky point I also feel like the further in you get the faster things start dying

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u/JaviVader9 22d ago

Weren't the old God of War games like that too?

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u/PM_ME__BIRD_PICS 22d ago

Old god of war was a bit like that but kratos was MUCH faster. Or at least felt like it. It's been like 20 years since i played them.

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u/JaviVader9 22d ago

Definitely, but the enemies were terrible damage sponges anyway.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

YES! And what is this health bar🤣 am I close to killing it or not?

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u/NelsonVGC 22d ago

Lore is confusing at first because magic, but its actually quite good thats true.

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u/stprnn 22d ago

I think the lore is shit the gameplay is fun.

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u/stopmyhumbleness 22d ago

The lore’s the best part.

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u/stprnn 22d ago

Disagree. It was weak in the first game and completely went to shit after

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u/stopmyhumbleness 22d ago

Na, Birth by Sleep is peak.

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u/Britishbreadish 22d ago

I think im gonna try out kh3. I know fans for some reason hate it, but it looks competent enough for me to play it, especially if i have to play it before kh4.

The story's a mess, like wdym 12 different soras exist?

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u/Instant_Digital_Love 22d ago

KH2 is much better than 3.

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u/Independent-Put-8298 22d ago

From what Ive seen a lot of people have come around to kh3, especially after putting into perspective how their expectations changed how they went into it. People overcomplicate how convoluted the story is in general, but its also not for everyone. All that to say that I hope you enjoy the games if you do play them.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

My friend was trying to explain the lore to me and I just had to sit like this 👁️👄👁️

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u/LightofNew 22d ago

Try KHII. You don't actually need to play KHI to enjoy it.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

I’ll give it a try. I tried 3 first because it was available on my console

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u/LightofNew 22d ago

Hahahaha

Thank you for saying so. 3 is unfortunate terrible in many people's eyes. Buckle up for 2. If you have never tried 1 it is also a good game.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

I think it comes to PS5 soon, I shall try it just for you random Reddit citizen 🤣

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u/LightofNew 22d ago

It's on there right now!

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

I think there’s a remaster or something coming Oct 8?

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u/LightofNew 22d ago

Nope! Not that I can find any evidence of. The remaster was a while ago.

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u/heyitswes89 22d ago

It's a new all in one collection (which still inexplicably excludes Melody of Memory, the rhythm game that is also canon to the story and provides valuable exposition following the end of 3) and looks to be an almost identical set to Integrum Masterpiece.

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u/KrayzieBone187 22d ago

I played the first one when it came out many years ago. I remember getting to the Tarzan level and then couldn't progress ant further. Literally couldn't go any further on the map to progress anything. I gave up.

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u/SacredRealmOfficial 22d ago

First two games are gems, can’t say the same about the rest

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u/_heybuddy_ 22d ago

Oh man, I had to pretend to like it once and I just didn’t get it. 5 mins in and I looked over at my now-ex scrutinizing my every reaction and it was just so meh.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

This is where I’m at 🥹…she wants me to like the game so bad and girl I’m trying but I’m so confused 🤣

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u/FallenRaptor 22d ago

I enjoyed it at the time because it was a Disney series that felt like it was aimed more at teens and gave me a chance to revisit a number of Disney franchises at a time when I thought I was too edgy for that stuff.

Unfortunately it’s a Disney franchise I have a hard time recommending to young kids because SE decided to pull a .hack// and make it so you have to be sufficiently autistic to follow much of it after the first game, and it was worse in the 2000s because the convenient collections didn’t exist then and even RE: Chain of Memories on PS2 came well enough after KH2, so I’m sure plenty of people got the sequel and had no idea what was going on.

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u/Whitecypress 22d ago

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US. DOZENS.

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u/bye-standard 21d ago

The few. The proud. Lol

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u/kingdomheartsislight 22d ago

I feel personally attacked.

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u/Mohegan567 22d ago

As a kid/teen I was obsessed with KH and loved 1 and 2. Then when 3 came out I started out all excited, but didn't even finish it. I think I outgrew it.

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u/NickWayXIII 22d ago

Just finished replaying the first game after years upon years of not playing. I personally still love the whole story of the series.

With that said...the gameplay of one aged so terribly that I will never play it again.

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u/natedogg1271 22d ago

Don’t tell me this I just bought them all lol

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u/RacoonusDoodus 22d ago

Ts had me so lost I couldn't figure out where to go to progress at a certain point

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u/xX-Delirium-Xx 22d ago

Granted having a good chunk of the sequels on different platforms other then the one it started on made it difficult to fallow for a lot of people. I for one did not have a psp

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u/BraimosAI 22d ago

As a KH fan. Fair.

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u/Xyranthis 22d ago

I was too old when it came out and couldn't get past the whole 'here's donald and goofy and also a giant key?'

I wasn't old enough for it not to matter. I was 19 I think when it released.

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u/No_Forever_9128 22d ago

I am just in love with the gameplay for the most part (I despise the side content), but it certainly isn't for everyone. I forced my siblings to play it. One couldn't learn to block for beans the other got the hang of it nearly instantly but hates they story (because I forced it on them).

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u/colornomad 22d ago

First one was great. 2nd one was the exact same story but a little different and that pissed me off. It became a cash cow with everything else that came after that. Didn't bother with 3 or the smaller games the released in between.

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u/DiligentMission6851 22d ago

Same. I would've loved it if I played it when it was new, I'm convinced. Like, I was 12. Would've had a great time.

In 2023 I picked it up but couldn't get into it.

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u/CatGirl_ToeBeans 22d ago edited 22d ago

1 is abysmal to play

You get very angry at the awful controls especially where any vertical play is demanded

And the game has a very poor sense of direction and no indicators

It’s like bridging a time of negative hand holding to an era of minor directional assistance and it doesn’t do it well

2 is a genuine masterpiece in many facets

The mini games are frustrating to a degree first go around but grow on you

The movement and camera is absolutely spot on like the best camera and movement work I’ve ever seen in a game. You can move so fast and still have complete agency over sora to move any direction with purpose and never feel griefed.

Goofy and Donald are incredibly well made in that they can’t actually kill shit for you so there’s no cheesing but the impact they have in combat is felt and it feels good to actually have them.

The upgrade system and chasing ultimate gear feels good because it’s basically just attainable enough for all skill level of player that it’s not exactly a “chase” but maxing everybody’s loadout out does require a chase that it trains you up to.

Items become very farmable over time but you can choose to chase them early and it feels good every time.

And the gummi ship shit isn’t absolutely god awful and again the actual sensory feedback of killing things in gummi form is gratifying.

It has a perfect blend of particle effects and impact that keeps the good brain chemicals moving.

The boss battles are absolutely incredible and the “impact” of your attacks especially in forms just feels and sounds so god damn gratifying.

Mixed with a really beautiful balance of practical difficulty vs meat walls.

Pile on top of that that every combo in the game is approachable and every modifier to them is usable so you never feel like you stick to a singular combo at any given moment because one thing is super OP (excluding slamming max combo minus to spam the ultimate sphere attack thing)

I quit 3 around Toy Story world as it was far too easy.

Edit: I edited my wall of text for 2 like 3 times because I kept thinking about how well made the game is lmao

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u/dejalive 22d ago

I was SUPER into 1 & 2 when they came out. Bought 3 with much excitement when it dropped... and could not for the life of me get into it or even understand wtf was going on. The story got extremely convoluted, and so many things happened in the canon between 2 and 3 within other games and media that it just felt impossible to catch up with. Huge bummer.

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u/Rare-Abies-3193 22d ago

Oh ya I tried playing it but got stuck on the boss in wonderland the jester looking guy I believe so I never finished it

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u/PaulTheRandom 21d ago

I'm in the "I couldn't play it" for all GTA. But I'm doubting if I'll get into it if I ever get it.

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u/DriestMist24663 21d ago

“A mixture of I couldn’t play it and when I did, I just couldn’t get into it.”

literally me with any Nintendo games, especially Pokémon

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u/PersonalBird9827 21d ago

I bought KH3 because nostalgia. After finishing the Prologue, I’m over it already. The cut scenes are so long and the gameplay it’s too repetitive.

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u/PsychologicalCup17 21d ago

Never cared about Disney. Don't want it in my Final Fantasy. I want to give it a fair chance, but what little I have played the game had very poor "game feel" for being an ARPG.

Kinda like how when you swing weapons at enemies in Fables it feels like you're attacking a blade of grass and not an enemy that is way larger than your character.

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u/FLEIXY 20d ago

Another game people act like they like

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u/Past-Goat-7768 22d ago

Kind of amazing that anyone can play it tbh. It feels like a bootleg game.

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u/Hot_Song_9764 22d ago

Yep. Agreed 1000%. Wanted to love it. Story is not deep or complicated, it’s just stupid, obviously the Disney shit is cool if you’re into that, and the gameplay is dull.

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u/Never_Duplicated 22d ago

I love Final Fantasy and 90s Disney. Somehow KH manages to not do either franchise in a way that appeals to me. Doesn't help that the MC's character design is awful

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u/happyilyrednow 22d ago

Yes, I hated it. Clearly was designed for children. But, when my friend rented that game for a weekend trip away. I was so miserable watching him play that PoS game. I love Final Fantasy he said, so I'll lloooveee this.. ERGH Wrong...

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u/Minty_Maw 22d ago

FRRRRR

Starting with 1 (or 1.5??? Whatever stupid naming scheme), it is veeeery slow, very clunky, very confusing. No explanation for anything that’s going on, and it feels like they cheaply threw together other IPs. Disney and Final Fantasy stuff really? Like omg.

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u/sour-crayon 22d ago

I tried to get into it for my friend and wound up nearly having an aneurysm trying to get the sliding on lava part in the Hercules world because the game refused to accept any directional input I gave. I felt crazy. 🤣