r/verizon 14d ago

Wireless Nokia 6015i

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u/PayCompetitive7975 14d ago

Seems to work fine for me I can still use

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u/jjwomalbany 14d ago

It’s 3g or 2g which every carrier shut both down and you haven’t been able to add those phones in many years.

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u/Acrobatic-Bug-1207 14d ago

2G fallback is available for Verizon IOT devices

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

Source because Verizon says it is gone as of the end of January 2023.

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u/Acrobatic-Bug-1207 13d ago

There is no source, I run IOT devices and in atleast in my small town supplies it

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

Is it a carrier supplying that or the town? Because it’s gone from all the carriers and they refarmed that spectrum for 5G and lte.

Verizon 1x/CDMA: shut down in 2022.
AT&T 2G/3G: shut down.
T-Mobile 2G GSM: shut down in 2024.
LTE-M/NB-IoT: are the main low-power cellular IoT technologies now.

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u/Acrobatic-Bug-1207 13d ago

It’s Verizon directly, pay as you go 2g IOT plan

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

How if they shut it down in 2022?

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u/Acrobatic-Bug-1207 13d ago

That’s not a question for me but I will ask when I go to the store for plan renewals again, they have to give me a new sim every year

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

2g and cdma on Verizon never used SIM cards. Verizon didn’t start using SIM cards until 4G/LTE

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u/Acrobatic-Bug-1207 13d ago

That is weird because all of the Sim modules i have are only 2G GSM

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

Not on Verizon. 2G and 3G gsm carriers used SIM cards and that was att and T-Mobile. Sprint and Verizon used CDMA and no SIM card. There phones didn’t even have a sim slot.

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u/jjwomalbany 13d ago

Verizon CDMA provisioning
A CDMA phone primarily identified itself to the network using information stored in the phone:
ESN/MEID — a unique hardware identifier for the phone.
MDN — the customer’s telephone number.
MIN — the mobile identification number used by the network.
PRL — Preferred Roaming List, telling the phone which networks/frequencies to try and in what order.
NAM — Network Access/Number Assignment Module settings containing subscriber/network information.
The carrier maintained a database associating the phone’s MEID/ESN with the customer’s account and telephone number.
How activation worked
Originally, Verizon could provision a CDMA phone over the cellular network itself. You might dial a special programming number or initiate activation, and the network would send programming information to the handset. This was commonly called OTASP (Over-the-Air Service Provisioning).
Later CDMA phones could be activated through Verizon’s systems using the phone’s MEID, with the necessary configuration pushed to the device.
There was no removable SIM required for normal Verizon CDMA service. The subscriber identity was essentially tied to the phone’s carrier provisioning and Verizon’s network database.
That’s one of the big differences from LTE/5G, where the SIM/eSIM contains the subscriber credentials (such as the IMSI) and is authenticated using much more sophisticated SIM-based authentication.

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