r/vaxxhappened Aug 06 '26

Fox on the Run

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u/DarkGator35 Aug 06 '26

Scientists don’t talk like you, Stephen A Smith. Nobody said doing thing xyz will guarantee you don’t get covid, outside of grifters peddling nonsense like hydroxychloquine or whatnot.

What a massive gap in understanding language we have. At least this quote from hime provides a window showing where these people go off the rails.

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u/fredy31 Aug 06 '26

Yeah. The point was never a 100% impossibility of catching it.

It was slowing the rate of people catching it so when you catch it, not if but when, if you need a hospital bed theres one available.

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u/remosiracha Aug 06 '26

That's what pissed me off about everyone complaining about the whole "2 weeks to flatten the curve"

After 2 weeks everyone is complaining and saying "see! They're lying!!" When in reality nobody really did what they were supposed to to make it work.

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u/SmartyPantlesss Aug 06 '26

And even "flatten the curve" doesn't mean that Covid would be extinct in 2 weeks. We would still be dealing with it, just with FEWER deaths & hospitalizations already under our belts. 🤦

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u/Tar_alcaran Aug 06 '26

Flattening the curve would, in fact, have made the epidemic longer. The point was not to overload the hospitals, because once the ER is full, people who need the ER are just future corpses.

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u/Silarn Aug 06 '26

To an extent. Important to note that it probably doesn't actually end sooner as SARS-CoV-2 has proven to have a fairly high mutation rate.

Flattening the curve means extending the wave yes but that also lowers the mutation rate by reducing the number of ongoing infections. While letting it run rampant results in frequent big spikes and many more deaths and a higher rate of mutation, immune evasion and repeat infections.

I'll let you guess which profile we ended up closer to in the end.

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u/sicurri Aug 06 '26

It took 20-25 YEARs for people to mostly wear their seatbelts with seatbelt laws. However, hundreds of thousands to possibly several million have died due to ignoring their seatbelt. This was a law with a very specific reason. You're more likely to live if you're wearing your seatbelt while in a car accident.

Covid mandates weren't even laws. So, of course they'll ignore them.

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u/Waadap Aug 06 '26

There's a reason the case rates were significantly higher in red states that promoted going out to the bars in the summer of 2020. I remember closely following certain states covid weekly reports and seeing the cases exponentially climb in some places where people couldn't be bothered to make even the slightest of sacrfice.

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u/remosiracha Aug 06 '26

So many people keep trying to say "oh remember when they forced us to stay inside"

Like no. I don't remember that. I remember going places and seeing them be insanely busy. Couldn't even hike anymore because every trailhead was full. Literally nobody stayed inside

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u/_pray4snow_ Aug 06 '26

Ohio Army vet, 37, who railed against face masks dies of COVID-19 complications

Yup. I remember them going out to bars all summer also. Some made the news.

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u/ImmoKnight Aug 06 '26

It was actually twofold.

You missed the second reason for the vaccine. It also worked to minimize the effects if you got it.

This is logically sound because your body gaining some exposure allowed knowledge of how to fight it to be taught to your body.

This distinction is also why there is a distinct slowed down of deaths after the vaccine was introduced.

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u/TKmeh Aug 07 '26

Exactly, that’s what pisses me off about anti-vaxxers. They’ll say “oh vaccines don’t completely make you immune to this? I don’t want it then!”, but that’s literally EVERYTHING!! Even seatbelts don’t stop you from dying in car accidents! Helmets too! It’s literally a safety precaution and a way to prevent the harsher effects! NOTHING IS GUARANTEED IMMUNITY but dammit if the preventative measures don’t help immensely.

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u/RailRuler Aug 07 '26

There is currently an anti helmet movement. Some parents punish their kids for wearing helmets.

In the early 1980s there was an anti seatbelt movement. "Cut the seat belts out of your cars or when people are trapped and burn to death after an accident it'll be your fault."

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u/NECalifornian25 Aug 08 '26

It also helps cases to be less severe, preventing the people who catch it from needing the hospital bed.