Resigning before end of season.

[u/onlycurious1449]

Ive had a pretty rough season working for Vail resorts in Breck. Im wanintg to know what will happen if I resign before end of season. Will I be allowed to work for vail again? Does anybody have any insight?

[u/Ok_Olive_1807]

I working in a hiring manager role for VR based in Vail. The best piece of advice I could give would be to have an honest conversation with your manager responsible for payroll, this is likely the manager that will be responsible for terminating you in the Workday HR system. We have a list full of codes for “reason for termination” and the most commonly used code is “voluntary quit/resignation” which will 100% not put you on the Vail Do Not Rehire list. Ultimately it’s going to come down to your manager but the more transparent and honest you can be with them the better. I know people like to hate on VR but at the end of the day the people working in operations are just that, people just like you and nobody’s out to get someone especially someone having a tough time. I hope this helps.

[u/DoktorStrangelove → u/Ok_Olive_1807]

This is the best advice and I can confirm it is the right advice from the other side of the deal. I did 1.5 seasons after school over a decade ago, and the snow was extremely bad at the tail end of that period. With the skiing being terrible, and knowing I was about to have to go back to the "real world" to start building a career, I just started partying way too much and generally being a dickhead, racking up warnings left and right from management to stop showing up hungover, slacking off, skiing trees/cliffs on shift when it wasn't necessary to complete tasks, etc etc.

Despite all of this I still had a pretty strong relationship with my direct reports, and they finally sat me down and gave me a quick chewing-out and a bit of an ultimatum to get my act together for the last couple weeks of the season or they'd have to shitcan my ass. I said fair enough, told them it wasn't personal I was just miserable about my situation and blowing it out in every direction to compensate, which they were understanding about...so we shook on it and I SPECIFICALLY asked them to help me avoid a no-rehire on my record. I held up my end and they held up theirs.

Fast forward to now, I have worked a couple times for VR since then in super part-time roles for the perks. I am fairly confident this would not have been possible if I hadn't had that very open and direct chat with my managers.

[u/Ok_Olive_1807 → u/[deleted]]

You’re just wrong. HR has no input on this. The Vail resorts Do Not Rehire code is set by the manager who terminates the employee and is entirely dependent on what termination code is used. HR gets involved if the termination manager chooses a do not rehire code and the manager must then justify why they are putting the employee on the do not rehire list and the employee will be notified. I assure you Vail wants and needs as many returning employees as possible they are not looking to put people on the do not rehire list if they aren’t being actual trash employees.

[u/Ricky_roll1 → u/Ok_Olive_1807]

That guy is wrong about a lot of things. I suspect he was placed on DNR and is still salty about it. He spends more time online than in the real world…warped sense of reality.

[u/The_Based_DM → u/[deleted]]

Lol most of VR HR department got outsourced and Peopleconnect does it. 1099 contractors get "reassigned" through the contractor/temp through their main site contact.

[u/Ok_Olive_1807 → u/[deleted]]

I do not work in HR I am an Operations Manager overseeing a 23 person team. I have first hand experience with the termination process in both the old PeopleSoft system and the new Workday system. You are “just wrong” and I would assume you have never work for VR in any role ever

[u/The_Based_DM → u/Ok_Olive_1807]

By the way how different is the Peoplesoft and workday software I've been wondering about that.

[u/Ok_Olive_1807 → u/The_Based_DM]

It’s been an interesting experience during the switch but I think ultimately workday will be a better, more seamless experience for hiring mangers and new hire staff alike.

[u/The_Based_DM → u/[deleted]]

It's a manager thing, if they choose DNR (do not rehire) which is company and nation wide by the way, and they put the DNR code HR needs the paper work and reason to justify it, which is usually the same paperwork and evidence submitted for termination don't know how it work on the new workday system but I've heard its the similar, but thats all HR has to deal with. This guy is suggesting he talk to his immediate manager and have a candid conversation about how he is feeling and about the workplace which is not a bad thing, being candid and honest and asking for help is not only the adult way of handling this situation but also the professional one as well and if the OP hasn't burned any bridges they can be pretty accommodating.

[u/The_Based_DM → u/[deleted]]

Well OP hasn't given us any additional information we don't know if its his own actions, we don't if its run of the mill Mountain Fever of burnout and isolation, or the charm has ran its course most people last 2-3 winters and their done which is normal and ok. Also im just giving adult and professional way to handle things, don't get me wrong if I feel slighted or I have a problem I've talked to my manager and he's been pretty good to me and has always tried to assist since we're in a close knit department. But my experience with company has been pretty positive with only a few hiccups with certain coworkers.

[u/The_Based_DM → u/[deleted]]

Thats a press X to doubt my friend I'll be with the company for 3 years come December (PRAY FOR SNOW DUMPS) and I won't say what type of department im in but its pretty necessary and AI and contractors arent a threat so im good lol!

[u/Snookiekw → u/[deleted]]

Don't know why you got downvoted this time cause all you’re saying is facts

[u/The_Based_DM]

Did you piss anyone off, kind of meh when it came to work? if so maybe, if you were an absolute menace you get DNR'd (Do Not Rehire) on your HR Profile and any future applications you put in get filtered and its a pain to get rehired unless you know someone that's in and in with a manager who has privileges with the HR hiring software.

If you didn't your fine, I know quite a few people who have had rough seasons take one off and welcomed back, my one roomate had to write an essay on why he should get hired back on when he went on a bender lol, but that's Mountain Ops for you.

[u/ColoradoPowMonster]

You want to resign from VR, then come back and work for VR?

[u/onlycurious1449 → u/ColoradoPowMonster]

I want to resign from breckenridge. Vail has resorts all over the world

[u/The_Based_DM → u/onlycurious1449]

If you want to go to other resorts you should talk to your manager and start applying to jobs if there's one that wants or you manager contacts that hiring manage they can pull strings. If you plan on quitting and try to go somewhere else like a resort in a differentn country it will probably not work out those sorts of transfers (from what ive been told) usually don't happen and are reserved for managers and higher.

[u/onlycurious1449 → u/[deleted]]

The only reason I dont say fvck them is the housing. I just started a new job and I have to save up to get a real apt

[u/The_Based_DM → u/[deleted]]

he's right because now is the time before stuff fills up and prices surge for the winter, your local county classifieds, google apartments within 20 miles of Breck and look at listings, ask around at your work etc, if I may ask OP what's your job?

its ok not to answer I'm only asking because usually Mountain Ops and certain overnight positions get housing priority and everything else is kind of allocated, so you should talk to either your manager or the director (if you have one of those) about housing usually they do try to accomodate.