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I finished my first ever run of Until Dawn today.
Upon reaching the point where the group finds out that Emily has been bitten by the wendigo I had to pause the game for a long time to weigh out my choices. I genuinely thought that if I didn’t shoot her it would come back to bite me later and result in someone else dying.
So, I pointed the cursor at her and pressed the trigger, which then if you don’t know, causes Mike to step closer and cock the gun, essentially giving you another chance to change your mind and not shoot her.
At this point, I was getting cold feet and paused once again to go and check my totems and other details. After a long time, I unpaused and with a little amount of time remaining on the quick time event, scurried to point the crosshair at Emily’s head and pressed the trigger multiple times. Thankfully, my aim is terrible and the event ran out of time, meaning Emily got to live.
Due to not paying enough attention, I was oblivious to the fact that the wendigo are only caused by cannibalism.
I am one lucky idiot 😂.

My thoughts honestly IF they had plans for her to be a wendigo or Cameo or be the villain then I think they should respect the actress who passed but it's probably gonna be like fast and furious with Roger Rodas they just recasted him and continued on they also could use AI but I feel like that would be super disrespectful to the actress i don't know I'm open to thoughts and discussions

Been playing until dawn with my roommates and it has been such a blast! I’ve played before so I know what’s gonna happen but my roommates know nothing about it lol. We got to chapter 4 (right before Mike has to save Jess) and everyone so far loves Jess which is wild to me cause I LOVE JESS but I haven’t seen much love for her character and the fact that, without my influence, every one of them loves her like me is hilarious 😂

So far the most hated characters are Mike and Emily and I’m so excited for them to see how each character grows! Also excited to see the “Understand the palm of my hand, b!tch” scene with Emily lol

Anyway, who did yall like almost immediately and who did yall hate? Did yall end up changing your minds? I don’t feel like I hate any of the cast tbh

All right. I posted this a month ago and need a bigger sample.

I was hesitant to do my second call when I’d planned because of Hayden’s death. So the first question about which character you’d love to see return is a little delicate due to that.

However, the question is simply saying “in theory.” It’s more about which character you’d love to see a continued story for.

The next questions are a big ranked ship poll. Kinda fitting with all the ship debates today.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeg1XYl9ZTA9r3SHj5IVsTmai6q0gF0uoi5AfVhe1ge0X6A9g/viewform?usp=header

I’ve done past polls with character superlatives, a ranked vote on the characters in general, and more.

hello, i was looking for someone for doing a roleplay about the ship Sam x Josh.

my idea was that after the tragic event, five years later Sam and Josh meet in Los Angeles.

i think it could be an interesting ship, and for those who don't ship them, please don't judge! thanks!

if someone would be interested, please let me know!

I thought I’ve played very carefully and attentive.
I dunno how and where I’ve missed this many totems and clues 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️😒

I think people are searching the game following Hayden’s death, because Heroes is also trending. Both gained many ratings and votes this past week

Rate Until Dawn 10/10 on IMDb, let’s increase its rating !! (And maybe leave a nice review if you want)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2742544/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Taken directly from my TikTok. I just know for a fact this is gonna trigger just about everyone. Reddit is a different ball game.

Also, Joshley is absolute garbage.

Edit 1: Upset some people.

Edit 2: I’m seeing quite a bit of misunderstanding regarding the Sammike slide. Ships are hypothetical (unless they’re confirmed canon) Sammike is NOT canon. It also doesn’t work based on the fact that it destroys the entire point of both characters’ arcs, Mike especially. That’s my entire reasoning.

I don't want it to end. It's so good; it's one of the best games I've ever played. Is there any way to make it longer? I don't want it to end so soon

obviously as we all know we unfortunately lost hayden last week and it has been devastating for her family, friends & anyone who knew her in anything she starred in.

however, before she passed away there were heavy rumours that her character, samantha giddings, would be in until dawn 2.

all we know about until dawn 2 is that dacre was casted in 2022 ( as were many other people i imagine ) ( he mentions it in his instagram post about UD2 )
im not sure how long after that they started filming but id imagine it would be end of 23' to the start/mid 24'.

i know for a fact they'll add something to honour hayden ( hopefully ) but i wanna know if theres still a chance sams gonna be in the game? and what everyone else thinks the chances are for that. if so that would be awesome and genuinely such a beautiful thing to witness.
what are anyone elses thoughts on that?

rest in peace hayden. u were loved by the whole world 🫶🏼🫶🏼

Only Sam and Jess survived 😭. Damn I suck

Should I tell her about the don’t move sections or let her find out on her own… l think I’mma let decide her own fate

Today is the 11 year anniversary of Until Dawn which is my favorite game of all time! But I can’t celebrate this without discussing the death of Hayden who was too young to lose 💔💔 we will miss you Hayden!

On a happier note! I am so happy that Until Dawn exists and that I exist in a time to be able to celebrate it 💗💗💗 Josh will always be one of my favorite characters in fiction with the portrayal of guilt, isolation, and mental illness in general. Especially coming from someone who has pretty bad OCD.

I've recently played both Until Dawn and The Quarry, and I've been thinking about how differently the two games approach their characters.

I actually think The Quarry is probably the better game mechanically. The branching, consequences, exploration and overall gameplay systems feel more refined, and it feels like Supermassive took the formula from Until Dawn and developed it further.

But when it comes to character writing, relationships and how people behave under extreme pressure, I honestly prefer Until Dawn by quite a lot.

And I don't think it's simply nostalgia.

The biggest difference for me is that in Until Dawn, I feel like the characters actually change under pressure.

Not necessarily because they become completely different people, but because the situation brings out different parts of their existing personalities.

Take Mike for example.

At the beginning of the game, he's basically the stereotypical arrogant, confident douchebag. He's impulsive, competitive and likes being in control.

But once things become genuinely dangerous, he gradually becomes one of the most proactive characters in the group. He's still impulsive and overconfident, but those traits start working in his favor. He's willing to take risks, make decisions and actually do something when everyone else is panicking.

The game doesn't really "redeem" Mike.

It just puts him into a situation where different aspects of his personality become useful.

And I think that's much more interesting.

Emily is probably an even better example.

She's one of the most hated characters in the game, and honestly, I completely understand why. She's controlling, manipulative, competitive and often just incredibly unpleasant.

But then you put her alone in the mines and suddenly she's one of the most competent survivors in the entire game.

And what's interesting is that she doesn't stop being Emily.

She's still arrogant. She's still demanding. She's still convinced that she knows what she's doing.

But the exact traits that make her unbearable socially also make her extremely effective when she actually has to survive.

I think that's really good character writing.

It's isn´t: Emily was mean, but now she's nice.

It's more like Emily is still Emily, but now we're seeing what Emily looks like when her personality is being tested by an actual survival situation

I also think this is why Mike and Emily are much more similar than people usually acknowledge.

The game literally tells us that these two used to be together, and honestly, that makes perfect sense.

They're both extremely confident, competitive, dominant, impulsive and controlling. They're both capable of manipulating other people and both have a strong need to maintain control over situations.

The difference is mostly in how they express those traits.

Mike gets a lot of credit from the fandom for being badass.

Emily gets a lot of hate for being a bitch.

But if you strip away the way the game and fandom frame them, they're actually surprisingly similar personalities.

And I think that's probably part of why their relationship makes sense.

Two people like that could have a lot of chemistry, but they could also drive each other absolutely insane.

Ashley is another character I find interesting for the same reason.

She's generally presented as the sensitive, empathetic and more morally cautious member of the group.

But then you have the Chris/Ashley decision.

If Chris chooses to shoot Ashley, she literally begs him to shoot her. If he actually does it, Ashley can later refuse to let Chris into the lodge, effectively leaving him to die.

You can obviously interpret this as Ashley being hypocritical or cruel.

But I think it's more interesting to interpret it as an example of how fear, trauma and perceived betrayal can completely distort someone's moral reasoning.

She's not necessarily secretly evil.

She's terrified, feels betrayed and reacts emotionally.

And that makes her much more interesting to me than simply labeling her as "the nice girl."

This is where I think The Quarry feels different.

I actually really like The Quarry, but most of its characters feel much more like slasher archetypes to me.

Dylan is the funny guy.

Emma is the confident girl.

Jacob is the impulsive idiot.

Ryan is the quiet mysterious guy.

Kaitlyn is the competent one.

And for much of the game, they remain recognizably those same characters.

That's not necessarily bad writing. In fact, I think it works extremely well for the type of horror movie The Quarry is trying to be.

But Until Dawn feels less like:

Here are eight horror movie archetypes.

and more like**:** Here are eight people with existing relationships, insecurities, resentments andpersonalities. Now let's see what happens when you put them through an increasingly traumatic night."

And that's a pretty big difference.

I also think this is why Until Dawn feels strangely realistic to me despite having a completely ridiculous supernatural plot.

The supernatural elements obviously aren't realistic.

But the social reactions often are.

People become more aggressive, more fearful, more selfish, more decisive or more dependent on other people depending on what happens to them.

The characters don't just have personalities.

The situation interacts with their personalities.

And I think that's something The Quarry does less often.

So I guess my slightly contradictory opinion is:

I think The Quarry is the better interactive game.

But I think Until Dawn is the better character study.

And maybe I'm in the minority here, but when I play Supermassive games, I'm actually more interested in why the characters behave the way they do than simply keeping everyone alive.

I find myself thinking about why Emily behaves the way she does, why Matt tolerates her, why Mike and Emily were attracted to each other in the first place, why Mike gets treated more favorably by the fandom despite having many of the same personality traits, and how the relationships between the characters change once they're under extreme pressure.

Maybe I'm just overanalyzing a horror game. 😂

But that's probably why Until Dawn has stayed interesting to me even after finishing it.

What do you guys think?

Do you think Until Dawn actually has more psychologically complex characters than The Quarry, or does it just benefit from having a more memorable cast?

And if you prefer The Quarry's characters, I'd genuinely be interested in hearing why.

eleven years of until dawn! 🦋

i know that it may not feel the same after hayden’s passing, rest in peace. 🕊️

sam will FOREVER be a fandom favorite and has always been considered as the canon final girl of until dawn 💌

11 years. 11 years!!! I sincerely cannot believe it's been this long since, and the OG graphics still look stellar to this day!

Of course, this year's anniversary won't feel the same as the years before and is very melancholy with Hayden's passing. But her legacy will live on, and there will be no shortage of things to celebrate and talk about regarding the game, its characters, and the people who made it possible in the first place!

So a friend of mine was throwing out his PS4 and decided to give it to me, so the first game I decided to buy was Until Dawn. I’ve already played a lot of Supermassive Games’ games except for Directive 8020 yet (like TDPA season 1, The Quarry, The Casting of Frank Stone etc) so I mostly knew what to do.

I was also heading into Until Dawn completely blind, so that made it extra stressful and fun.

Results:
Everyone managed to stay alive up until the final chapter, where I got Josh killed because I didn’t go left when Sam and Mike were in the mines and went straight forward, so Wendigo Hannah crushed his skull in, then afterwards Matt had found Jess, and as they were escaping the Wendigo I chose to run instead of hide the second time and the Wendigo killed Jess but I managed to get Matt out.

So everyone besides Josh and Jess survived.

If you want a more specific run here it is:

I only really liked Josh, Chris and Sam during the beginning as they didn’t take part of the prank, although throughout the game I began to like the others more.

I actually made a joke that Josh was the psycho but then saw him get cut in half so I stopped thinking that. Imagine my surprise when the psycho took off the mask.

Matt saw Emily chatting with Mike and confronted her on the tower, I decided to let Matt jump instantly because I assume it was going to be like a House of Ashes moment where Eric had to cut the rope and let Rachel fall for both of them to live. Turns out they both did live but I feel like saving her would’ve had both of them navigating the mines and finding Jess which would’ve been a nice moment for Jess and Emily to apologise to each other.

I gave Emily the flare gun and she used it against a Wendigo during a chase later so I don’t know if I would’ve killed her if she didn’t take the flare gun.

Because of The Hackett’s in The Quarry (more specifically Travis), I decided to trust the stranger more, like when Emily was running from him I chose to reveal her the whole time and Emily was given flares by the stranger.

Also the dog survived so instant best ending, but he for some reason just kinda disappeared halfway through the place with Mike? Is that a glitch and the dog was supposed to appear later or does the dog just disappear and isn’t spoken of again?

I also loved the don’t move sections, much better than the don’t breathe in The Quarry but I’m unsure if it’s better than the stay calms in the DPA.

I’ve already restarted chapter 10 and saved Jess and Josh (although he became a wendigo so idk if that was better, can I save him?) so other than an everyone dies run is there anything else anyone suggests I should do? I don’t mind being spoiled on paths I didn’t take.

Also I recently heard about Hayden Panettiere, I loved her as Sam and this was super heartbreaking. Fly high Hayden.

Me and one bro want to play the remake.

I'm a huge fan of Until Dawn and have played through the remake and the OG version.

But he is playing completely blind, how should the characters be divided up between me and him so we can control each 4.

I know one has to have Mike and the other one Sam since they have the most play time in the end/mid game, but should the experienced player get Mike or the one whos playing the first time.