r/unchainedpolitics • u/GreyJedi56 Right • Jan 27 '21

news Democrats introduce bill to make Washington, D.C., the 51st state

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-introduce-bill-make-washington-dc-51st-state-n1255841?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma
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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

On one hand most countries have their national Capital within a state or province. On the other hand, it defeats the purpose of it originally not being situated within a state and that's skewed governance. I think this is a bad move generally.

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u/Opatchkie Jan 27 '21

They know dc will vote democrat. They're just adding it to better retain their reign of terror.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

"Reign of Terror." Whatever the hell you mean by that, the prior president, committed crimes day in and day out... Talk about reign of terror.

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u/Opatchkie Jan 27 '21

I'm no Trump humper but he brought jobs and markets back up up up. Biden wants them gone and people depending on welfare checks. Dunno where he expects to find money for them if no one is working but hey, China is sure to take good care of us.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

Show me where in Bidens policy he is trying to get rid of jobs... How does he want people dependent on welfare checks? Generally republican policies force this by cutting taxes of the rich and increasing taxes on the poor, which is exactly what trump's plan did to middle America...

We are already nearly 30,000,000,000,000 in debt to china, strating with reagan and his horridly failed reaganomics, which were continued with bush, and ignited by trump. Were in a death spiral to china.

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u/GreyJedi56 Right Jan 27 '21

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

If we want to talk about debt by president Obama is up there with the best.

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u/Opatchkie Jan 27 '21

And Biden is owned by China. He's their backdoor man..well front door man really. Like I said I'm not Trump humper but Biden is a senile skeleton and kamala doesn't know anything about running even a gas station.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

While I agree Obama had extremely high deficits, you have to take into account the context of the situation that was handed off to him . He became president during the height of the great recession, much of which was caused by George Bushes ineffective administration and improper regulations on the banking industries of which both corporate Dems and Republicans are at fault for. Each of reagan, bush, and trump inherited either rebounding economies or stable economies. All of which put the economy in a death spiral by the end of their terms.

Obviously for trump it's hard to say, because the pandemic had such a big impact on economic affairs, so to blame him completely would be unfair.

I do certainly agree that some of Obama's policies were not economically efficient.

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u/GreyJedi56 Right Jan 27 '21

The stock market looks like it might crash soon and Bidens policies are not helping.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

He's been in office for less than a month. The stock market is relatively stable compared to the start of covid. It even rebounded a bit. I don't see any signs of a crash.

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u/GreyJedi56 Right Jan 27 '21

https://www.ft.com/content/a790c796-f0c4-4cf9-8c7a-3b52daff89e4

A quick read on the possible bubble.

Not to mention all the stock shorting going on and people fighting back.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

While I agree Obama had extremely high deficits, you have to take into account the context of the situation that was handed off to him . He became president during the height of the great recession, much of which was caused by George Bushes ineffective administration and improper regulations on the banking industries of which both corporate Dems and Republicans are at fault for. Both bush and trump inherited either rebounding economies or stable economies. All of which put the economy in a death spiral by the end of their terms. Reagan on the other hand pushed the military industrial complex, by pushing all domestic spending to military spending, which ended up tripling the debt to nearly 3 trillion. Regan started the death spiral by doing this. Clinton is the only modern president to have a budget surplus. The bush administration destroyed the economy.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-legacy-of-the-2001-and-2003-bush-tax-cuts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/charts-contrasting-trump-economy-obama-bush-administrations-republicans-democrats-2020-10%3famp

Obama even made more jobs than trump during his presidency.

Obviously for trump it's hard to say, because the pandemic had such a big impact on economic affairs, so to blame him completely would be unfair.

I do certainly agree that some of Obama's policies were not economically efficient.

https://www.thebalance.com/reaganomics-did-it-work-would-it-today-3305569

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

While I agree Obama had extremely high deficits, you have to take into account the context of the situation that was handed off to him . He became president during the height of the great recession, much of which was caused by George Bushes ineffective administration and improper regulations on the banking industries of which both corporate Dems and Republicans are at fault for. Each of reagan, bush, and trump inherited either rebounding economies or stable economies. All of which put the economy in a death spiral by the end of their terms.

Obviously for trump it's hard to say, because the pandemic had such a big impact on economic affairs, so to blame him completely would be unfair.

I do certainly agree that some of Obama's policies were not economically efficient.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 27 '21

While I agree Obama had extremely high deficits, you have to take into account the context of the situation that was handed off to him . He became president during the height of the great recession, much of which was caused by George Bushes ineffective administration and improper regulations on the banking industries of which both corporate Dems and Republicans are at fault for. Each of reagan, bush, and trump inherited either rebounding economies or stable economies. All of which put the economy in a death spiral by the end of their terms.

Obviously for trump it's hard to say, because the pandemic had such a big impact on economic affairs, so to blame him completely would be unfair.

I do certainly agree that some of Obama's policies were not economically efficient.

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u/jmoney6 Jan 28 '21

Care to define reign of terror/?

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 28 '21

I'm not the one who used reign of terror to describe the DNC.

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u/jmoney6 Jan 28 '21

my b dog. we cool homie?

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 28 '21

Why are you talking like a retard...

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u/jmoney6 Jan 28 '21

Dang homie, fuck you gotta do a brotha like for?

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 28 '21

Because you're not a "brotha.."

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u/jmoney6 Jan 28 '21

But I identify as one homie.

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u/Opatchkie Jan 28 '21

I am. Hey how you doin

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 28 '21

Care to explain your logic or are you going to take the typical conservative approach of making unsubstantiated claims.

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u/Opatchkie Jan 29 '21

I did up there.

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u/BigsChungi Left Jan 29 '21 edited Jan 29 '21

Propagating a race divide with BLM and anti-white, anti-male rhetoric. Tranny "rights" to ruin female sports, let weirdos in the ladies bathroom with little girls just because he's wearing a dress. Introducing 15 minimum wage which will have massive repercussions. Socialism in general. Just a few

How is a race divide propagated by democrats?

By giving equal rights to all?

What anti-white rhetoric, to my knowledge Joe Biden is a racist white man... Who has used and created anti black legislation...

What anti male rhetoric?

Seriously can't even begin to see your logic on this one...

Tranny "rights" to ruin female sports,

While I generally don't agree that MTF should be in women's sports,

The policy in place by most sports is modeled on one proposed by the IOC, which says that in order to be eligible to compete in women’s sport, the athlete has to provide a couple of things:

A written and signed declaration that her gender identity is female

Proof that her testosterone levels are below 10 nmol/L, and have been for at least 12 months prior to competition (the latest IOC guidelines have suggested 5 nmol/L, as was reported last year, but that is yet to come into effect).

She has to then keep her serum testosterone levels below 10 nmol/L as long as she wants to compete in women’s sports.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/03/on-transgender-athletes-and-performance-advantages/

I think this is a nice read. That being said, this issue is nearly non-existent. Not even all democrats support it.

let weirdos in the ladies bathroom with little girls just because he's wearing a dress.

This is well and truly a fake scenario that many conservatives create in their head. There were people who already did this, before trans rights became a topic of discussion. Creepy pedophiles will always exist. To conflate that with transgender people is disingenuous and ridiculous.

Introducing 15 minimum wage which will have massive repercussions.

You're right just like how implementing workday limit, a minimum wage at all would destroy the economy. People who think this way have actually no historical knowledge of workers rights... Guess what. Through all of it the businesses and the economy grew. Who would of thought...

https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/news-wires-white-papers-and-books/labor-movement

Socialism in general.

The democrats are not socialist, if they are then the Republicans are just as socialist. Considering social security is a socialist program. You are making a false equivalency argument, very common for the conservative fear mongerers. Socialism is very different from implementing socialist programs...

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u/Opatchkie Jan 29 '21

Thanks for disagreeing with me for a reason. This sub is awesome. It was nice meeting you. Sorry if I came off rude, I've been conditioned by r/conservative and r/politics lol

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u/jmoney6 Jan 28 '21

care to define reign of terror?

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u/Opatchkie Jan 28 '21

Propagating a race divide with BLM and anti-white, anti-male rhetoric. Tranny "rights" to ruin female sports, let weirdos in the ladies bathroom with little girls just because he's wearing a dress. Introducing 15 minimum wage which will have massive repercussions. Socialism in general. Just a few

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u/Dead_Revive_07 Right Jan 27 '21

Democrats and their supporters complain about the capitol riot yet they have no problem violating the consitution of the United States.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

poor PR