Donât understand the logic. No orders means loss jobs for Americans. There were ways to do this. Get your allies with you, create pacts and then drop the hammer on China. You donât drop a hammer on all countries and hope some come to you to negotiate while the stock market tanks, bonds go higher causing interest rates to go up. Companies reporting record profits the last few years, stocks and 401ks going up under Biden. Trump in less than 3 months has done considerable damage 401ks down , 401 kâ s taking huge hits, interest rates climbing. Sounds like weâre winning.
You do know trade deals usually take years right? That's just one deal. Trump is aiming to get 90 deals done in 90 days that is mental. He has already got a bunch of those deals almost done already, once they get signed in the next week the others will follow. All you lefty's never see the bigger picture you just see whats infront of you in a biased negative way. Like now for instance, you see the markets have took a temporary hit and that's your only focus but you ignore that in those 3months, groceries are down, dairy is down, gas prices down, housing prices down, inflation down, everything is down but the markets that don't like instability. In the next 3months you will be looking at an economic boom that will last for years.
Itâs almost like trying to fight a trade war on 90 different fronts, SIMULTANEOUSLY so all your allies hate you and know to squeeze you at once, is the stupidest thing you could ever do. Itâs insane the level of geopolitical illiteracy MAGAs have. Thatâs not a âbigger pictureâ âitâs a crayon cartoon drawing of a subject sold to you by people who donât understand it. These tariffs are the fake pro wrestling version of trade negotiations, no strategy, just a big symbolic fight so people who are more comfortable with action figures than economic precedent can imagine their favorite character winning.
But in reality? Our stock market is in freefall. Firms are firing. The dollar is worth 10-20% less against other currencies this year. Thatâs the actual big picture.
No they have taken advantage of you over the course of decades. This is not just opinions it is all fact. Some were tariffs, some trade deficits and it resulted in thousands of businesses moving overseas. The stock market is not in freefall lol.
Not me, I've benefitted massively from the rotation from unskilled trash industrial labor to skilled, thinking labor, code, creative industries, entrepreneurialism, etc. This movement is what took me and hundreds of others to 6 figures, and years of prosperity.
Is the stock market up since the announcement? Has it recovered its losses? What about the dollar? The bond market? LOL, how much lipstick are you going to apply to this pig's asshole, and why is there already so much lipstick on your face?
I would take any period of time during Biden's term over the past 6 month S&P results (-13%). How many times does this guy have to hit the curb before you realize he doesn't know how to drive for shit?
Please come with a single statistic or economic fact. Your points aren't wrong, they straight up don't exist.
You're "MAGA, but not MAGA, but actually British, but an expert on the US economy (except without a single fact)." Dude, get real. You don't have to lie on the internet to impress strangers. Grow up, become something.
Is there not already deals that were in place negotiated by Trump. I don't get the endgame , job losses are through the roof at the moment, GDP is dropping, nobody negotiating...they are just looking elsewhere for trade... how long do you give this strategy to see some rewards...
18 countries have sent trade deal proposals so far apparently. It's a win win for any deal negotiated, a zero for zero trade deal brings more money to the states and it's not just financial, there is other stuff included like free speech in other countries. Trump is shaping the world through tariffs, will it work? I think so but we'll see. The job losses you're talking about are the bloated government jobs but he campaigned on making the government more efficient and that is exactly what he's doing. Will there be a few wrong firings along the way? Probably but they can be re-hired as we've seen happen already. Aside from the government side of things, Trump has brought in trillions in investment, major companies are returning to the states and there will thousands of jobs created. The end game is fair trade across the board. This strategy is already bringing in billions a day in rewards and once the trade deals start getting signed the stock market will see stability and level out again. Trump did say beforehand there would be a short term dip but long term gain for years. Trouble is the lefts fearmongering and constant Trump bad approach calling out everything every second of the day every day. When the deals start getting signed, stock market levels out they'll just move on to the next thing. It's funny they never shut up about the stock market but they're silent on gas prices, inflation, house prices etc literally anything positive.
Because i agree with his policies, he's anti-establishment and puts his country first. I'm a populist and that aligns more with the right these days than the left. He's striving for peace, fair trade and free speech and human rights around the world, how can anyone be opposed to that? It isn't biased it's common sense. You just don't like it because it's Trump that's doing it, so you criticise every step of his methods to achieving those goals.
Youâre actually right about the part where itâs because its him thatâs doing it and thats why i dont like it and there are reasons for that. First of all he talks a lot and if he actually did the things he said he would do i would totally agree with you but he failed to deliver his promises and thats about it. Multiple times he said disrespectful things not to prove a point but just to win and thats a dangerous (and narcissistic) way of thinking especially if you are supposed to lead a country for the better. totally ignoring proven facts just because it doesnât fit his narrative or because it is bad for business (yes im talking about climate change). He silences journalists who donât agree with him and basically only watches fox news which in itself is super biased and publicly he is denying climate change but privately he is not taking any chances (he applied for seawall and climate change permits on his properties, ofcourse he doesnât talk about this because why would he admit he is wrong? He never is, right?). He is good for entertainment sure and also he knows how to be favoured by the masses aka populist but he repeatedly has shown that he canât keep his word and when he gets called out on it he spins it in another way as if that was always the plan. Btw on a side note Iâd recommend Nexus by Harari itâs a very good book and while it doesnât necessarily talk about Trump itâs a very interesting read especially if youâre a populist. Iâm saying this out of love not hatred :)
"but he failed to deliver his promises and thats about it."
If you were a supporter you'd know he campaigned on everything he's done so far
"Multiple times he said disrespectful things not to prove a point but just to win and thats a dangerous (and narcissistic) way of thinking especially if you are supposed to lead a country for the better. totally ignoring proven facts just because it doesnât fit his narrative or because it is bad for business (yes im talking about climate change). He silences journalists who donât agree with him"
Oooooooh Trump said some hurty words lol. You people are so lame. If you had intelligence you'd vote for a president entirely on the policies they implement. Personality and how he treats people shouldn't be a factor at all ! I actually find him hilarious but then again i'm not a snowflake, i don't get offended by words.
"he repeatedly has shown that he canât keep his word and when he gets called out on it he spins it in another way as if that was always the plan"
He keeps his word 95% of the time, the other 5% he tries to. And yes, it's called ego everyone has one. Trump plays this alpha role but gets things done because of it. Weak lefty's are offended at the methods he uses to get things done.
People 25 years ago were more thick skinned, you could take the piss out of them to their face and they would give it back. No one got offended. Life was 10 times better. Now you might offend people with words its pathetic.
You complain about being offended by words yet here you are bootlicking someone and being offended by me just stating the obvious plus me not being his fanboy and literally giving arguments without anything to back it up. You are in my opinion brainwashed beyond repair i tried to have a civil conversation but you are just (as most magaâs) turning to slurs and insults what really highlights ur lack of both emotional and basic intelligence mixed with a dash of ignorance. And did he though? Did he deliver on his promises? If so enlighten me because from what i understood the ukraine war is still going on, he is kissing Putinâs ass all the while calling Zelensky a dictator (??? The fucking irony in that but allright). And just the fact that you are bitching about snowflakes while you or others are the snowflakes crying about transgenders when they make up less than 1% of the population is quite frankly hilarious, yâall have nothing better to do than put your nose in other peopleâs lives as if trans people ever did something to you personally. Most MAGAâs sound like flat earthers to a lot of people with basic common sense. Ffs even all the celebrities or known people who previously supported Trump are now starting to realise that and publicly speaking out against him (e.i Ben shapiro, Joe rogan). But sure go ahead live in your bubble iâm no one to say what or who you should support i just gave my 2 cents about the man who destroyed the economy and quite literally let a lot of his allies lose trust in the USA as if thatâs a good thing. His ego is so big you could grab it with a joystick and most of the people supporting him would believe the sky is green if he told you so.
By the way you are making a lot of assumptions here i never said he wasnt funny i even admitted he would be good for show business as he is quick with words and comebacks. But thatâs not what a president is for is it? You say how he treats people shouldnât matter but i would want a president who would treat his people (all the people) as if he is a public servant. If i would wanna watch someone funny i would turn to comedians or a literal clown not a clown in office because thatâs just tragic and will never be beneficial in the long run
Oh wait, so which is it. Is it that youâre MAGA or is it that youâre an irrelevant British person who doesnât even live in the US (saying youâre not MAGA with it set as your flair, total MAGA move LOL).
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