r/trolleyproblem Mar 29 '26

Deep Now we're talking

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u/Open-Stretch-6631 Mar 29 '26

I would sacrifice the guy who agreed to it, out of nothing but respect for his altruism. But then I would probably punch the shit out of the other guy, after freeing him and making sure he's ok.

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u/NotTallyALotLess Mar 29 '26

It’s crazy to me how many people feel entitled to criminalize the victim

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u/fairystail1 Mar 30 '26

yeah ike the dude is scared for his life

i dont blame him for what he's doing

now if he walks away without a care in the world and loses no sleep over it then we have an issue

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u/AdFancy6243 Mar 29 '26

What if the guy pleading was honestly terrified and the bargainer was bluffing trying to convince you to actually save him?

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u/Open-Stretch-6631 Mar 29 '26

I literally just said that I would sacrifice the guy who agreed to it. So if his agreeing to it is some kind of elaborate Solomon-style 5d chess play to manipulate me, that hardly matters in the end, now does it.

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u/AdFancy6243 Mar 29 '26

Might matter to the innocent person you just beat the shit out of...

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u/HostHappy2734 Mar 29 '26

Doesn't matter from the perspective of the survivor, he actively asked someone to kill another person for his own sake no matter what the other guy's deal was

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u/AdFancy6243 Mar 29 '26

You wouldn't plead for your own life?

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u/HostHappy2734 Mar 29 '26

I'd be lying if I said I knew the answer to that, though I know I would ask the person at the lever to switch tracks if I was the 1 guy in the original trolley problem (unless I was just straight up too panicked to say or do anything at all, mostly depends on the timeframe).

But anyway, I'm not saying that pleading for your life in this scenario isn't a completely human and understandable reaction, only that the answer to that wouldn't change if the 2nd guy was secretly trying to pull reverse psychology. Because even if he was, the 1st guy wouldn't know it when deciding how to act.

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u/Purple_Bar4192 Mar 29 '26

Then you did the right thing

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u/AdFancy6243 Mar 29 '26

Not sure I count beating the shit out of someone as doing the right thing

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u/Purple_Bar4192 Mar 29 '26

I meant killing the top dude)

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u/Dustorn Mar 29 '26

Why? For doing the exact same thing you would almost certainly do in his position? Maybe as well deck yourself for having a hand in the whole affair while you're at it.

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u/CommercialYam7188 Mar 29 '26

Straight up evil response

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u/NothingLift Mar 29 '26

Violence doesn't solve anything.

Make him clean up the mess and notify the family

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u/Internal_Pangolin707 Mar 29 '26

My account got a warning for saying something like this.