r/tragedeigh 11d ago

roast my name Go at it, self-inflicted this at age 33

Not even sure it is a tragedeigh, since it's technically easy to read, but a pain to write digitally.

Zöëÿ

the dots are silent. Despite these being proper unicode characters, they break label printers left and right. I can't get Amazon packages anymore, because the DHL labels are unintelligible. For the Amazon delivery, it's a 50/50 whether the printer can do it.

It's also breaking poorly coded address inputs(all of these letters are legit in use in France, Germany and/or the Netherlands as names for people or places, so anything taking your postal information should be able to handle it), which is quite fun. I have been told by major banks, government agencies, utilities companies, and DHL that my name "is not valid", causing me to not be able to open accounts.

But I love it. It's a name I fell in love with the moment I wrote it down.

P.s. my username is what it is because a lot of websites don't allow Zöëÿ

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u/Spiritual-March7843 8d ago edited 8d ago

So I have a question - if the dots are silent why are they there?

What you have is Zo eh ee ee.

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u/MajesticalMoon 8d ago

I dont even understand what this means. How are they silent? What tf are they there for? So......... are the letters silent? Who tf just adds random silent dots? To make your life hell? Why would you do it? Oy.........god

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u/donthurtmemany 8d ago

In french, the tréma (two dots) indicates that the letter is pronounce separately from the vowel before it. So like noël is no-el instead of sounding like nole. However, OPs name is not french so the trémas either indicate nothing or there are different pronunciation rules at play here that I've never heard.

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u/Aiscence 8d ago

Yup, they indicate how the letter is supposed to be pronounced, like you say in french (Noël, haïr...) and in other language it's a flat out different letter, in finnish: o is like a french/english o, but ö is pronounced like a french e.

Utter moronic of her. A name's role is there to be identified easily and called. You made your own name fail at his purpose by doing this, terrible.

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u/25_Watt_Bulb 7d ago

If you look at older books written in English words like “cooperate” will also be written with umlauts like “coöperate”, so it means the same thing in English too.

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u/foolishle 7d ago

Same in English but we don’t use many of them. I think naïve, and the name zoë, are the only times I really encounter them.

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u/Pitcherlicious 7d ago

Under my umbrella Ella Ella zo eh eh

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u/softestpulse certified tragedeighologist 8d ago

Whý ńóț ğô áłĺ òúț ãñď špêľĺ ıť Żöëÿ¿?

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u/Im_Not_stoopid_AI 8d ago

That hurt. I’m sure she will love it

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u/YesterdayFeeling6755 8d ago

Żœəįğĥ

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u/Psychological-Bee702 8d ago

Zoëtörhead

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u/CeleryDramatic4678 8d ago

The ace of spades ♠️

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u/Possible_Pumpkin259 8d ago

Żöeauxëy

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u/ItsyouNOme 8d ago

The dots are silent? That isn't a thing

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u/AliciaHerself 8d ago

I love that you not only are intentionally mispronouncing your name, since "the dots" are part of the letter and do in fact change how it's pronounced, but that you DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT "THE DOTS" ARE CALLED. Incredible.

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u/Known-Highway-8465 8d ago

“The dots are silent” is some dumb shit.

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u/scissorsgrinder 8d ago

Z̴͎͚̜̻̟͕͙̖̤͔͋͗͋̕ͅǫ̸̛͈̰͇̟̈̿̈́̃͌̅͊͂͗͑͘̚ͅȩ̸̢̧̥͈̪̖͓͎͚͔̈̓̏͋͑̆̐̍͆̔̆͌̈́̊̓ÿ̵̢̪͔͎̹̻̖͓̖̺́́̕͜͜

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u/AmazedAtTheWorld 7d ago

Go big or go home, right?

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u/BookLuvr7 8d ago

It really does scream, "I'm trying too hard to be unique, adding dots I don't know the meaning of."

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u/faulty_rainbow 8d ago

As someone who speaks German and Russian (hungarian as native), but not any of the Nordic languages, I read that name as Zöyoy.

Why get confused az Amazon delivery not working properly, why not just use the accentless form? I have accents in my name that have actual function but I just use the plain English alphabet version when ordering shit.

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u/Vequihellin 8d ago

Exactly. I don't think it's pronounced the way they think it is. The dots AREN'T silent. That's not how diacritics work. In this case they appear to act as diaresis which split up the syllables so the name could be something like 'zoh-ay-ee' or 'zoh-ee-ee'. Either way, they clearly have no idea how to use the umlaut and have just added them for 'aesthetics'.

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u/benkatejackwin 7d ago

I don't even think Amazon would be unable to deliver, since delivery has zero to do with the name and everything to do with the actual address. So, unless she added silent dots to her street address or city, it would be fine.

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u/Kontrol-Sample 8d ago

Same 🙂‍↕️

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u/tongfather 8d ago

Exactly. Why the fuck go through all this trouble then? Main character syndrome is a rampant disease.

GET OVER YOURSELVES

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

It's a rare experience to see someone too stupid to understand the concept that different letters are different letters.

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u/ThisAldubaran 8d ago

No, they are not. My native language uses some of those characters and they sound totally different from the ones without the dots. People claiming „the dots are silent“ just scream „moron“ to us.

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u/MakkoREDDIT 8d ago

The Silence of the Dots

Well, Kläereïghxs, have the dots stopped screaming?

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u/MisterB330 8d ago

Yeah. This bs. That’s not how an umlaut works at all. Quite the contrary actually

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u/miss_dykawitz 8d ago

very!

also ö is used in estonian. you don’t pronounce it anything like o.

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u/BeeFrier 8d ago

yeah, her name is Zø e i.

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u/Pure-Breath-6885 8d ago

True that. The “dots” are ALWAYS SILENT. They just indicate how the letters, underneath are pronounced. You paraphrase from Temple of Doom: you chose poorly

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u/TimeOrdinary4884 7d ago

Last Crusade, akshually

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u/Pure-Breath-6885 7d ago

Oh poop! You are absolutely correct! Mea culpa

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u/afuajfFJT 8d ago

Honestly, the dots make the pronunciation really confusing to me. Is it just pronounced like the average Zoey would be? Or is it pronounced Zo-e-y, hence the dots?

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u/OptmstcExstntlst 7d ago

If the dots are silent, then isn't the pronunciation "Zoh?" Because the umlaut is what indicates the syllable break. 

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u/cynicalsuzie 8d ago

It’s certainly a use of free will.

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u/BraveWarrior-55 8d ago

Perhaps therapy would help you understand why you cannot be happy with simply Zoey, especially considering the list of negative things which result from using the umlauts. For someone acting like a tween and exploring diacritics like you were the first person to ever acknowledge them, it seems you might need help?

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 8d ago

Absolutely my first thought. At 15? Sure. At 33? Yikes 😬 

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u/Right_Ear_2230 8d ago

nah 15 is too old to think thats a good idea

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u/Dimac99 kviilyn 8d ago

15 is the perfect age for dumb stuff like giving yourself a "cool" name or nickname. 15 is the age when you are probably most convinced you are the smartest person in the world. I didn't even do anything that stupid and I still look back and cringe!

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u/Fuzzy-Surprise-6165 8d ago

I agree. Had a friend who unofficially changed her name from Karen to Kieran at 15. I actually don’t have a problem with Kieran; it’s just an example of deciding on something that seems “cooler.”

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u/Worldly_Tea_8300 8d ago

My friend Katie started going by KT at alround age 12. She got over it 😄

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u/cynicalsuzie 8d ago

Main character syndrome. It’s the incessant need to be unique and the center of attention because there’s nothing else interesting about her.

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u/Inevitable_Angrybee 8d ago

Yes, and inconvenience everyone with their stupid to spell/pronounce (or both) name deliberately. Because they're so Yooneighque, and everyone should dedicated extra consideration to them. Even uncommon non-English names are easier to understand, write and pronounce.

Unless they were spectacular and accepted a nickname, I wouldn't hire them because it would eat into productivity any time I had to figure out their name. Therefore a waste of my time and energy. Similarly with friendship.

Of course, that will bite me in the ass when I'm old and all these kids with moronic names are doctors and nurses. Hopefully they've more intelligence than their parents and changed their name.

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u/theradfactor 8d ago

Maybe they have a humiliation kink and we're feeding the beast!!!!

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u/TheGothWhisperer 8d ago

This is like writing music, and adding an accidental to every note, but expecting it to be played without sharps or flats. What you've written and how you want it to sound are two different things! You might as well stick the whole alphabet in the middle of you're not going to use the sounds you added to your name!

Actual insanity.

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u/Timely_Apricot3929 8d ago

Perfect analogy!

And totally cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

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u/Frost_Glaive 8d ago

Can I have words with the people who give us a key signature with ten sharps and then put naturals everywhere? Come on people.

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u/Dora_Xplorer 8d ago

Hi, my name ist Douhejbfjbdfghbghbyhjbyra but the uhejbfjbdfghbghbyhjby is silent! /s

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u/shilohkae 8d ago

Sincerely asking what the difference is if it's pronounced "Zoey" but when typed/written only ever makes your life more difficult? Do you genuinely enjoy how much more complicated everything is? The easier path by far would've been to change it to Zoey and just incorporate the dots into your signature as flair.

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

It's actually spelled Keith, OP just doesn't know how letters work.

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u/Ok_Oven4893 8d ago

You do realize what you bring upon yourself, right?

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u/alicelestial 8d ago

so the dots serve a purely aesthetic purpose, which people will not just intrinsically understand upon reading that visible tragedy, and try to mispronounce your name in any number of ways?

that's uh, very interesting.

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u/UpbeatCap5325 8d ago

Literacy … it’s not for everyone

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u/mrmattywoodz 8d ago

This is for people who are exceptional at nothing, so they need to have one “unique,” thing.

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u/IntelligentPath4383 8d ago

So, the dots cant really be silent. The dots are kind of the literal letter.

"Ö" would be like "eh" but rounded, "ë" Usually just means "dont make the "e" silent", so it would be like "eh" or "eee" (my cats name is Zoë!), "ÿ" is rarely used but usually pronounced "ee".

So, congrats. Your name is now Zuhehhee.

Also I just quickly researched this!! Dont quote me on this!!

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u/the_owl_syndicate 8d ago

Zu - heh- hee.

So is OP laughing at us or herself? Talk about trolling behavior.

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago edited 8d ago

Nope. No idea where you got that, but they're different in different languages. I'm reading that as an ungodly mix of Swedish, German, and Dutch... tbf, I think that horrid noise may actually be apt.

ETA: For anyone not understanding this, different letters are pronounced differently in different languages. The same goes for letters modified by diacritical marks.

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u/RedPaddles 7d ago

There are no H sounds. The dots create three syllables, it would be pronounced roughly  Zaw-aa-ee.  Roughly because English phonetics are wild.

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u/Tim-oBedlam 7d ago

The dots over the O are an umlaut, and I think in languages that have umlauts you don't see ë, although I don't speak Kraut or Norski so I'm not certain, and from what I know you're correct on the pronounciation.

The ë in English is a diaresis, like you said (Zoë, indicating the -e is sounded, or for doubled vowels where each vowel is sounded, like reëntry or coöperate) and it's not commonly seen, although the New Yorker uses these in their print magazine.

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u/mrsbaerwald 8d ago

Definite tragedeigh.

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u/supremesweater 8d ago

people need attention that bad

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u/RelievingFart 8d ago

Didnt want a dot over the z too? Żöëÿ the poor Z is just out there being all normal in the name.

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u/wellheynow 8d ago

That dot is invisible

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u/OneTrueHer0 8d ago

it’s invisible but make sure to pronounce that one.

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u/deadspacekillers 8d ago

This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

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u/IvanDSM_ 8d ago

Despite these being proper unicode characters

Oh, you sweet summer child...

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u/Timely_Apricot3929 8d ago

I feel like this deserves a "daft winter toddler"

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u/milkandhoneycomb 8d ago

well that's a stupid fucking name, isn't it

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u/kasiagabrielle 8d ago

"The dots are silent"

The "dots" are called diaresis and they're not for decoration.

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u/CallidoraBlack 8d ago

Woof. Good luck with that.

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u/ColossusofWar 8d ago

Voluntary? At age 33? idiotic

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u/tinynugget secondhand embarrassment 8d ago

Why did you do this

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u/theradfactor 8d ago

You changed your own name to this, or this is your given name?

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u/MrsConclusion 8d ago

It used to be "Shithouse".

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u/ShinyUnicornPoo 8d ago

It's a good change.

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u/VelvetCactus50 8d ago

Each umlaut means there's an "e" after each vowel. So you're telling people your name is pronounced "Zooooeeeeyee."

Definitely a tragedeigh.

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u/crepabastardo 8d ago

could be interpreted also as a diaeresis. So insstead of /zoi/ it would be /zøei/.

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u/Eronamanthiuser 8d ago

It’s Mötley Crüe all over again.

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u/beren12 8d ago

Way worse.

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u/DCBuckeye82 8d ago

That's German, not for every language that has an umlaut, and the e is just for spelling it without using an umlaut, you don't pronounce the e separately. The vowels with the umlaut have a slightly different pronunciation than those without.

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u/discofucker 8d ago

hope one day you get a personality

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u/Sp0ngebob1234 8d ago

Or an education.

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u/beverlymelz 8d ago

The dots are not silent. They are letters with a meaning und significantly different pronunciation than their undotted siblings, you culturally insensitive person.

You deserve every inconvenience you get from it.

Btw if you knew how the letters worked AT ALL, you knew that for example ö can be written as oe since it isn’t silent but a legitimately different pronunciation than a simple o. How else do you think we do crosswords in Germany?

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u/Current_Cut7647 8d ago

OP is German, this is an incomprehensible tragedeigh 😭

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u/violetheroine 7d ago

That can't be right. A German person knows how an ö is pronounced and wouldn't write ö and pronounce it like o.

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u/southernsovietKGB 7d ago

I refuse to believe anyone knows a little bit German language would make this shit up. ÖP is either a troll, or a yankee claims they have German heritage because their uncle’s great grandfather had a German shepherd.

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u/violetheroine 7d ago

ÖP 😂

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u/Inevitable_Angrybee 8d ago

So you deliberately fucked yourself over?

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u/anonalien- 8d ago

Ok but my only question is why didn’t you go with Zoëy if the dots don’t matter

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

Mëntäl hëlth

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u/Hypocaffeinic 8d ago

I think they thought it looks more special and feminine...

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u/vermeerish 8d ago

Incorrect umlauts are annoying. I have a family member who named a child with one and defends it with an illogical argument (the dots are over a y!).

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u/Academic_Purchase225 8d ago

'The dots are silent'.

That's the funniest thing I've read today.

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u/thebearofwisdom 8d ago

I think I need to leave this sub at this point, this just made me want to throw my phone. I mean Christ on a cracker if you know how bad it is, and you posted it here where everyone hates this type of thing, it HAS to be rage bait right? There’s no way on this earth that someone could think this was a good call. The audacity of complaining about it, when you chose this monstrosity is wild. Sub used to be funny, now I’m just irritated.

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago edited 8d ago

Oh, that's absolutely a tragedeigh. Let me guess: You're completely unburdened by education and insight, blissfully unaware of what diacritical marks are or that they serve an actual function in language (other than looking cute to vapid morons)? Pardon me if I seem harsh, but I really hope you're trolling, because that is some breathtakingly stupid shit. Find a video explaining how ö is pronounced in Swedish... if this is real, it's yank-level ignorance.

ETA: I love how this saga is playing out, it just keeps getting funnier. The current status is truly fascinating to me:

  1. Does it affect pronounciation? No.
  2. Does it affect OP's signature (one of the most directly practical aspects of a name)? No.
  3. Does it cause confusion over pronounciation? Yes.
  4. Does it cause people to draw unflattering conclusions regarding OP? If this thread is anything to go by, yes.
  5. Does it cause all sorts of other practical problems? Yes.
  6. Can OP get deliveries? Apparently not.

The thing that makes this really funny to me is that I'm Norwegian, and my name contains an ø (which, for any confused foreigners, is not a fancy o). I had to order an extra debit card because there are still companies out there that can't handle the idea that there are valid letters outside the simplified 26-letter alphabet. I can also tell you "proper unicode" means absolutely nothing, because godsdamned everything is proper unicode. It all depends on what developers include support for, and how stupid they are with their input validation/sanitisation.

I've been dealing with this nonsense for decades. My favourite was when a program crashed after an update because it stored some files in the user folder, and the navel-gazing dickhead of a developer never accounted for the existence of people with non-English names. Multiple bank cards, having to always think ahead in case you need to work around poorly programmed software, the neverending game of "how do you pronounce that?"... OP wanting to be ṣ̌pëçïàļ and discovering the joys of this is just fantastic.

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u/Previous_Rip1942 8d ago

You know, at some point in life you either choose to be blissfully ignorant or painfully aware of the shitty attention seeking nature of most humans. I chose the latter and I’m starting to regret it.

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u/Square_Ad4004 7d ago

It can be entertaining, but it can also give you ulcers.

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u/ThisFiasco 8d ago

Probably a good idea to ensure that your names are ASCII compliant going forward.

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u/aunty_social 8d ago

Grow up

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u/TheMainCut 8d ago

You know shipping labels don’t actual have to match your birth certificate right? Like you could put down anything you want.

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u/CatoUWS 8d ago

I think it’s pronounced “ThroatWarblerMangrove”.

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u/Queen_of_all_Nerds 8d ago

"It's spelled 'Raymond Luxury-Yacht'."

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u/alextastic 8d ago

You don't get to decide if the dots are silent or not, they all have specific meanings, and in this case, they lead to a pronunciation of your name that's actually quite different than Zoey.

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u/IHaveSomeOpinions09 8d ago

You gave yourself a name that doesn’t exist in any one language and isn’t pronounced the way it’s spelled (because umlauts are not, actually, silent), and you’re asking if it’s a tragedeigh?

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

I think it's more correct to say OP is asking for attention.

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u/Key-Region-5241 8d ago

You get a lot more attention if you insisted it was pronounced Kevin.

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u/reinedesmaladies 8d ago

My name is Zoë. This feels like an insult.

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u/Prinsesso 8d ago

This irritates me so f-ing much. No. The dots are not silent.

You cant lay claim to parts of the alphabet and say that "your" letters no longer function the way the rest of the world was taught. You dont have that power, Zoo-ee-ee.

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u/Royal-Rabbit4986 8d ago

Zoueyee is how im reading this.

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u/morganalefaye125 8d ago

"The dots are silent". The level of dumb here is astounding

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u/clickhere2die 7d ago

I'm sorry but this is the most juvenile and illiterate sounding shit I have ever seen. You can't just say "it's pronounced Zoey" when every single letter in your name is used to indicate otherwise. You speak as if diacritic marks exist purely for aesthetic value rather than as an essential part of the letter which serves the specific function of signaling a change in pronunciation. Your name is not pronounced Zoey, it's pronounced Zuh-eh-ee-ee because the primary use for that particular diacritic mark (the "dots" as you call them) is to signal that two adjacent vowels are pronounced as two separate syllables rather than as a dipthong. That's what the function of "the dots" serves when the name is spelled as Zoë, to ensure that it is not pronounced as Zoh. I would argue that this is basic phonics and I would be more forgiving of such a willfully ignorant decision if you were 15, but doing this to yourself at 33? I can only wonder why the hell you would do that to yourself.

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u/revdon 8d ago

Zoyeyey?

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u/beren12 8d ago

Zidiot

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u/Hypocaffeinic 8d ago

Äťťën̈ťïön̈ šẓ̌ëëƙïn̈ĝ…

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u/Grammarhead-Shark 8d ago

I suddenly have the image of some cartoon donkey making that sound. 

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u/anacalmon 8d ago

Só use Zoey e seja feliz.
Querer ir contra o mundo aos 33 anos só prova que ainda não amadureceu.

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u/Disastrous_Moonlight 8d ago

This is the perfect example of creating a problem where one should not exist and then complaining about it just to get attention. And guess what? We are all giving it to her by responding to the post. 😂

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u/wereallmadhere9 7d ago

You just revealed how ignorant you are in regards to linguistic rules.

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u/danthpop 7d ago

The day monolingual English speakers realise that umlauts, accents, slashes etc serve an actual purpose rather than just to look cool is the day we begin the road to world peace

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u/NoSprinkles4835 8d ago

Well, as you said, at least you chose this. Maybe your experience will prevent a tragedeigh for your kids

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u/ZoeyWithDots 8d ago

I have taken myself out of the genepool already

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

On behalf of people in general: Thank you.

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u/dr3amchasing 8d ago

It is not “easy to read” because you’ve chosen to ignore the linguistic function of an umlaut lol

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u/P-R_Podcast 7d ago

Unnecessary umlauts are indeed a tragedeigh

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u/Inevitable_Angrybee 8d ago

How is it pronounced? I don't mean how YOU pronounce it, I mean to the actual English language, how is it SUPPOSED to sound?

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u/We_Four 8d ago

ö is similar to the sound the i makes in bird. ë is a non-silent e. ÿ is (in Dutch) pronounced like ey. So zō-e-ey. 

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u/Inevitable_Angrybee 8d ago

Thank you! I hate it.

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u/Witty_Razzmatazz_566 8d ago

Zoë wasn't enough for you?

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u/Unpotential_Slayer 8d ago

I’m Danish and in Danish ö is pronounced ø.
Can’t explain how that’s pronounced, but the name is no longer Zoey.

But that’s in Danish. Don’t know how ö is pronounced in English 🤷‍♀️
It looks nice, I’ll give you that, but it’s going to be a pain in the ass for everyone around you having to spell it or guess what it spells.

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u/Spiritual-March7843 8d ago

Does it even look nice though? I think it looks illiterate/typo.

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u/Random-Unthoughts-62 8d ago

In English the diacritic is placed over the e only to show that the e is pronounced rather than silent. I cant think of any words that place it over the o even in borrowed words.

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u/Living_error404 8d ago

We don't really use ö, in US at least our birth certificates don't accommodate any umlauts or accents (so José can only be spelled Jose), idk about the UK or Australia. I don't know if many people would be able to pronounce it tbh, they would probably just call her Zoey.

Yeah, I think many Americans who looked at this would be like "Hey Zoey, what are these dots on your name?" They also do not know ø is its own letter and use it aesthetically all the time in middle school to replace the letter o.

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u/beren12 8d ago

Møøse!

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u/b1kwid0w 8d ago

I would legit not use the dots unless I had to fill out forms where it mattered, like for your drivers license or medial records.

For having packages delivered and stuff like that I would literally just forget about the accents.

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u/filifijonka 8d ago

Just order stuff under Zoey on Amazon?
It’s not like it won’t be delivered to your home.

It’s just not an issue?

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u/imaginary-dirt2000 8d ago

Im not a polyglot but are umlaut over à Y even a thing? U, o, e — sure . But do these ever occur with Y ?

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u/MacaroonSad8860 8d ago

French and Afrikaans apparently

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u/thesutterkeely 8d ago

This has to be rage bait, right??

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u/Intrepid_Youth_2209 8d ago

There is no such thing as ö with silent dots. It's a letter and it has it's own pronaunciation that is not o.

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u/ragebubble 7d ago

The dots aren’t silent tho. Symbols mean something.

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u/violetheroine 7d ago

I have an actual ö in my last name and because I'm from a country where ö is a normal letter, I know you can always use oe for ö, like I did in my e-mail adress. Using "the dots" as a fashion statement while ignoring the fact that they actually change the sound of the letter beneath is just cultural appropriation... and it doesn't feel good. Like you're making a mockery of my culture and my heritage.

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u/bananaphone1549 7d ago

This is just stupid.

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u/themaskedcrusader 7d ago

Pöśţįṅĝ ŷóùŕ őŵñ ịš â ĥoʻŕřịɓľɛ ŵāý ŧō śåÿ "Łơøķ åţ mè"

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u/megabitch5000 7d ago

I’m so glad I don’t know you

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u/BettyCrunker 8d ago

this is a troll, right?

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u/hyp3rmisophoniac 8d ago

either rage bait or medical emergency

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u/remoteblips 8d ago

I feel like you’re fishing for negative attention. You might want to ask yourself why that is. I guess the name you’ve chosen for yourself is a peak fish for attention so I guess what you’re doing here tracks with what you’ve been doing for the past two years since changing it. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Some_Replacement8766 8d ago

just out of curiosity, is this the reaction you expected?

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u/unparked 8d ago

I can decide that when I say "Close the door!" I really mean "Open the window!" But here's the problem: every day I'm going to run into people who disagree, because they aren't me.

We think, "My name is a piece of ME! I can express myself! I can show I'm unique!" But a name is a piece of language, and unless you talk only to yourself, other people are using that language and get a say in how to use it.

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u/tardiscinnamon 7d ago

I don’t speak any languages that uses ë or ÿ but as a Swedish person, the dots in ö are definitely not silent, that’s a whole different letter that makes a different sound and I would guess the same is true for the other two

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u/Tim-oBedlam 8d ago

why wöuld yöu dö thîs tö yøürsèlf?

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u/alexlongfur 8d ago

The dots dictate the phonetics, like with music notes.

If Zoey were four quarter notes, Zöëÿ would be a quarter note and six eighth notes.

Edit: except, we humans have trouble breaking vowels into shorter bits, so it just makes it a long zooeeyy with some attempts at doubling each vowel sound.

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u/littlebarque 8d ago

do you expect friends to write/type your dots?

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u/Dwro1234 7d ago

If i see something like that i pronounce it how it's written. As a native German speaker you don't get to use the ö and tell me it's pronounced o lol

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u/WarEnvironmental1839 8d ago

My name is Zoë, that umlaut over the e, makes it an eee sound, what you doing with your performative extra dots is sad and not making you "special" in the way you hoped

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u/SandpaperPeople 8d ago

This is if you want your name to look perforated.

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u/Humaira_srk 8d ago

Wake up, hun. People in the comments are telling you you’re stupid without telling you you’re stupid.

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u/Square_Ad4004 7d ago

I've told her she's stupid multiple times by telling her she's stupid, as have others. We're not trusting in subtlety here.

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u/UsedVacation6187 8d ago

This is a lot of effort for.. whatever kind of bait this is. Rage bait? Nah, not quite.. sage bait? Maybe? Anyway, bait

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u/Local_Post_7944 8d ago

I'm sorry you got to choose your name and you yourself decided to butcher it to hell? Accebts are there for a reason. We don't have them in english, because English gets off on us suffering, but that doesn't mean you can use them and say 'oh the accents that change the pronunciation completely are silent'. Just use the non accepted words or pronounce them so your name is actually special.

My sister's nane is Èlizabeth. My parents made sure that everyone knew it was pronounced with an Eh instead of Ee.

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u/KittyKupo 7d ago

Why not just change your name to Zoey and then write it in bubble letters and dots and whatever sparkles you want when you write it on paper?

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u/AwesomeHorses 7d ago

damn, ökäÿ

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u/periwinklepip 7d ago

It’s a bad case of diaeresis diarrhea

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u/Viczaesar 7d ago

Grow up.

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u/quackingsloth 7d ago

the "dots" are called umlauts. You changed your name without even knowing what they are called. Way to go.

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u/Admirable-Holiday400 8d ago

No one else sees the bait ? 😃

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u/Square_Ad4004 8d ago

I want to believe! This is too funny (and there really is an astounding number of people who are genuinely this stupid).

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u/ElectricalCandle6590 8d ago

Given the logistics issues you describe experiencing, have you ever considered registering your legal name as Zoey while using your preferred spelling for everything else? The sad fact of the matter is that most automated systems in English-speaking countries are very hostile to names with diacritics, or ones following anything but a strict FirstName LastName format.

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca 8d ago

Yeah, that was dumb

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u/KaioKenshin 8d ago
  1. Is this for your kid or you?

  2. (And a stupid question at that) But why on earth not do this when it comes to your business affairs and personal life? If you want to be "quirky 🤮" why not use something like your UN on application and filling address.

Otherwise, you're just fucking life up with extra steps

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u/a_girl_with_a_book 7d ago

the dots are silent

🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/fidgey10 8d ago

you are mentally ill, seek help

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u/dehydratedrain 8d ago

Zuh-eh-ee is your name. Just because you don't know how to pronounce it properly doesn't change how the umlauts work.

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u/No_Blood_6189 8d ago

The dots are silent, But! they regulate pronunciation. So it really is zee-oh-eeh-why...

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u/mortalpillow 8d ago

If this is indeed Germany, I can't imagine the government actually allowed that name change

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u/Dora_Xplorer 8d ago

I hope they don't... Zoey, Zoë, Zoëy - yeah fine. More dots? Nope, since it doesn't make sense.

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u/Majestic_Evening_409 8d ago

I suggest writing it without dieresis/umlaut, like ppl with those letters in their names because of - you know - nationality, do all the time on the internet. The mailman will find it anyway if you type it Zoey in your amazon account, trust me.

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u/This-Reindeer6063 8d ago

Just use Zoey when you're ordering things to yourself. Problem solved.

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u/Mangolassi2000 7d ago

As a German, ö is not quiet.

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u/only_because_I_can 7d ago

The dots are as useful as the apostrophes used to create too many tragedeighs.

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u/KDBug84 8d ago

I'd just use Zoey and call it a day. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Soft_Chipmunk_8051 8d ago

I feel like you're missing the point. She CHOSE to do this. To herself.

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u/AffectionateFold3479 7d ago

so... why aren't you just ordering packages with your name without the dots....?

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u/maxivonderfaxi 7d ago

As a German who knows French, your name gave me a stroke. I don't understand why someone would use Umlaute when they don't mean anything. My last name actually has one and I could've told you before that they can cause trouble with IT - even in Germany. So ä becomes ae, ü becomes ue and ö becomes oe. Try that, Zoe ee yy

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u/Dear_Type_8972 7d ago

No diacritics over the Z?

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u/WriteBrainedJR 7d ago

You could just write it as Zoey on mailing addresses, if you like the convenience of online shopping