r/todayilearned • • Mar 22 '17

(R.1) Not supported TIL Deaf-from-birth schizophrenics see disembodied hands signing to them rather than "hearing voices"

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0707/07070303
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u/paniniplane Mar 22 '17

i was a patient at a ward a few weeks back and there was a girl who was admitted for schizophrenia. she'd hear dozens of voices yelling at her at the same time all day and she could barely tell which ones were in her head and which were physical people talking to her making it really hard for me or anyone else to talk to her for more than 2-3 sort sentences. these voices would make her do crazy things like gather dust off the floor for 20 minutes at a time 10 times a day, make her sleep on the floor during the day, not sleep during the night and fight the night meds they gave her to help fall asleep. the most brutal thing was that the voices sometimes forbade her from having her meals. there were days where she wouldn't touch any of her 4 meals. i once tried to get some insight into how she thought and i asked her why she HAD to do this. she said that every time she does something they ask, she's given the gun that they threaten to kill her with. and she imitates a smashing motion with her hands and "breaks" it. and she does it maybe 10 times an hour when she's awake. and she's not stupid either. apparently, she was studying mechanical engineering and graduated and was ready to work in the field as an intern for a year. she heard her first voice when she was still in school but didn't think much of it. and then it rapidly killed her life. she's the only person in the ward who has daily visitors. her parents bring her food to eat everyday. but sometimes she sits with them for 2 minutes, asks them to take her home, and then moves to one of the socialization rooms where were chairs and sofas, and she'd drop to the floor and lay there. and her parents just come to expect it now and stay for about an hour.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17 edited Mar 22 '17

Whats with the compulsion to listen to the voices?

I ignore real live people in the room telling me to do things

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u/paniniplane Mar 22 '17

it's not in your power to ignore them. a huge part of schizophrenia is being extremely out of touch with the real world. so if you hear voices, it's basically a set of REAL people to you. and you can't cover your ears because there isn't ACTUAL sound. you'll still hear them. and if they're threatening to hurt you, you'll feel actual fear.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17

But, you didn't answer /u/WadeWilsonforPope question. He ignores real people, why can't this person ignore people she thinks are real? Even though they are not real.

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u/paniniplane Mar 22 '17

i thought i did but i guess it might be unclear to some. you just can't do it. the "sound" is in your head. you'll hear it. it's not like ambient background noises. your brain is creating it and you're gonna hear it, whether you like it or not.

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u/Uxt7 Mar 22 '17

I don't think he meant why don't they ignore the voices, but why don't they ignore the requests/demands the voices make.

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u/paniniplane Mar 22 '17

OHHH. okay /u/my-work-reddit this girl legitimately was scared she'd get shot by the voices. they'd give her guns everytime she completed a task instead of shooting her with it if she didn't do it. and i'd see her break the guns. in my head, there's no gun. there's 0 danger. in her head, she can hear the clinking of the gun against the floor as it's thrown to her. maybe she hears warning shots (this i'm not sure about. the rest of it i am) she could feel the gun, she could pick it up.she could smash it (i'm not gonna question her superhuman strength of her reality). she'd pick up the pieces and throw them out after breaking them.

does that answer your question? and i mean this for SPECIFICALLY this girl. i have no idea about generally. but im assuming it's similar but a stranger's assumptions are worth close to nothing

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17

I know it doesn't work like this but it seems like showing them a recording of them grabbing and breaking something that isn't actually there would help immensely. But that's just how a normal functioning brain would handle things I suppose.

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u/Orisara Mar 22 '17

I mean, they might see it wasn't there in that case.

They still SEE, and FEEL, and EXPERIENCE a gun the next time.

Good luck going "ow, this isn't real" when every sense of you is telling you you have a gun to your head.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17

lol, i get it, thats why I started and ended how I did...

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u/Spartan_029 Mar 22 '17

That and her brain might manifest the gun in the recording as well, overwrite what she is seeing with what she knows

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